[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Tuesday, 21 April 1998 Volume 03 : Number 133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: April Vollmer & John Yamaguchi Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:36:48 -0400 Subject: [Baren 660] Skinny Lines and all Gayle: The trick is to add some thickener to the ink/paint...sumi or other pigment....I use methyl cellulose, I think you said you were using a paste...that colorless stuff conditions the color to sit evenly on the surface of the block and print evenly. There will be color all over the block, which is why you need a good stiff paper that won't dip into the low areas, and a good wide baren that won't push it there either! It takes a lot of practice to get the amount of pigment/thickener/water just right. A LOT of practice. And Grahm, great description of trees! Living in NYC, I have to rely on my field guide for tree info! The International Print Center New York is news to me...I had trouble getting info off the website, but I'll try again, sounds promising...thanks for passing it along, James! I hope you don't own any cows! April Vollmer ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:47:01 +0900 Subject: [Baren 661] Re: inking the blocks ... Gayle wrote: > I can't wait til you tell us how to get the ink > on the skinny lines without getting it down > where you don't want it. Also, when you do > the black ink, skinny-lined block, do you > use watercolor or sumi ink? The second one is easy ... 'both'. I use sumi of course, but as it is simply made from black carbon particles, mixed with glue and water, does it count as 'watercolour'? The first one is more difficult. If you've been using a roller to apply ink to the raised relief surfaces of a block, the idea of brushing wet pigment all over the entire surface of the wood probably seems a bit bizarre. Yes, it gets everywhere, not only up on the top of the lines where it belongs, but right down between them and all over the entire surface. The reason it works of course, is that the paper has enough 'body' to be able to lie (lay?) flat up on top, touching only the relief surfaces. If it is soggy, or too thin, it will droop down and become smeared. When using the baren, you _must_ keep it absolutely horizontal, and not let it touch down in any unwanted areas. This takes a lot of practice. I can't begin to tell you how many prints I spoiled in the early days until I got control ... There _are_ some techniques to this. The brush can not be a soft type like a sable or something like that, but must have quite firm and stiff hairs - horse tail or bear are common. This allows the pigment to be scrubbed over the wood surface, ensuring an even coating and a good mix of pigment and paste. The pigment is _not_ _not_ _not_ 'painted' onto the surface of the wood. But if the hair is so stiff, doesn't it leave streaks and lines in the pigment? Yes - so that's why the brushes must be rubbed on the sharkskin. This gives the hairs 'split-ends', and makes the tip of each hair fine and soft. The brush thus has enough 'body' to spread the pigment, but enough 'softness' to allow the final gentle strokes (always _across_ the grain) to leave a smooth surface. I have a book written by an American researcher in the late 1800's who discussed some of these points with a Japanese expert ... >American: It seems impossible to prevent smearing, with blocks having great shallow hollows, inked with a brush, and therefore charged with color, not only on the parts left standing in relief, but also in the depressions, and with the thin moist paper used, held down on the plank with one hand, while the other guides the baren. >Japanese expert: Although smearing from the depressions in the block seems almost unavoidable, experienced printers, nevertheless, work without fear of it, and there is no special way of preventing it. The key word is of course 'experienced' ... Try it! Dave ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V3 #133 ***************************