[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Wednesday, 14 October 1998 Volume 05 : Number 312 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Bull Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:52:42 +0900 Subject: [Baren 1867] Inks ... Mario wrote (off-list): >Do you have ink recipes for printmaking? How much rice paste for >gouache? Do I need anything but pigment and rice paste for printing ink? >I have been taught to use speedball inks and they have weak pigment. It would be nice to be able to point you to the 'Pigment' section of the Encyclopedia, but as that hasn't been written yet ... 'Inks' used for woodblock printmaking fall into two very general categories: water based oil based (I have personally always felt that the term 'ink' was only used for oil-based products - printing inks such as those used with printing presses, etc. - but it seems as though I am a bit out-of-line there ... Water-based 'inks' are becoming more popular, it seems.) For your question: 'Do you have ink recipes for printmaking?' I can _partly_ answer it. Water-based - simplest method: - - some tube watercolour squirted into a dish - - a cup of simple white paste (rice, wheat, etc.) - - Dab some of each onto the lightly moistened wood surface, mix and spread out with a brush, take the impression (usually by hand with a baren). Water-based - simple Japanese method - - some powdered pigment - - a cup of simple white paste ... - - grind the pigment in water (with a touch of alcohol for some pigments that don't 'dissolve' well) - - (optional) add a touch of gum arabic (or liquid gelatin) to thicken if necessary (also helps keep pigment particles in suspension) - - Apply both pigment and paste to the lightly moistened wood surface, mix with a brush, take the impression (usually by hand with a baren). A press is not (usually) used for these methods because during the time that the block and paper are being 'set up' in the press, the pigment coating will dry out. For press work, one usually uses oil-based ink, as this will 'sit' for a while without drying out. As for the next part of the answer - the 'recipies' for oil-based inks - they will have to come from another [Baren] member. I've never used them so it would be silly of me to try and describe their use here ... Dave B. By the way, welcome to [Baren] Mario. Please pop up and introduce yourself sometime ... ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:21:11 -0500 Subject: [Baren 1868] re: Tomikichiro Tokuriki For those interested, I have posted in my web-site an essay/interview taken of Mr. Tokuriki back in the 1950's. He touches briefly on our current discussion topic of art vs. technique....and on his early days learning printmaking. I remember some members indicating that they had studied with Mr. Tokuriki, (Daniel & Richard ? or what is it Dave S. ?). Is under the "Prints" section at: http://www.skokienet.org/skyouth/syjcrp1.html ------------------------------ From: Matthew.W.Brown@VALLEY.NET (Matthew W Brown) Date: 13 Oct 98 22:22:13 EDT Subject: [Baren 1869] Address Gayle, I want to send you a copy of my little book, but can't find your address! Can you send? Matt ------------------------------ From: Matthew.W.Brown@VALLEY.NET (Matthew W Brown) Date: 13 Oct 98 22:37:13 EDT Subject: [Baren 1870] Computers Baren, Oops! Are not mistakes and errors our greatest teachers.? Moments ago I had thought to send a personal post to Gayle W., but on my new and faster Mac machine I was traveling at way too fast a rate of speed, and used the wrong address. How to learn to go slow with 'right direction' on these amazing machines? Is this not an example of the nature of the tool (the technique) affecting the form of the result (the art)? Matt ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V5 #312 ***************************