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Baren Digest              Friday, 13 November 1998      Volume 05 : Number 342

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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:05:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 2073] Re: Baren Digest V5 #341 

This discussion of late about our methods of dealing with
the drawing on the wood has been rewarding to me.  We 
are getting  new ideas.  I did want to comment that anytime
I've tried working with wood filler I make a mess of it.
Perhaps there is some klutzishness going on here.  :-)
I'm printing out today's Baren Digest and taking it down
to my little studio where I will try some of these suggestions.

Ray Hudson said: 
>  Then, when this is dried, I cover the whole block with a
> light black ink & carve away.

I had been using a sienna color on the wood for this, but I like the
idea of a light black since this is closer to the color I use anyway in the 
printing.

* * *

Roger said:  
>  (I use screws in my mount board opposite the frame to secure the block).  

Roger, I'm having trouble "seeing" this.  Could you elaborate?
 
* * * *

James  stated he too uses glue.   That idea  helps a lot because the
trouble I was running into with doing the "James Mundie Stipple"  was
wood getting weak in the area of the stippling, then breaking down in a
place or two.  I like very much the way the stippling looks, by the way,
so if the glue works, I will be ecstatic!

* * * *

Richard Steiner signs his posts with Steiner.  Are we to call you
Steiner rather than Richard?  

It seems, to do inlay in repairing broken lines, it takes a lot of
skill. One of my printmaking books shows a close up on how to do this, but 
once I did try it and I couldn't believe how big my fingers were compared to
the piece I tried to put in.  I gave up finally and started over. :-D

* * * * 

Dave, do you speak English with a British accent.  That too could make
a difference how "baren:  the pronunciation" is understood.  You said 
ba (as in bath)  Do you pronounce the "a" in  "bath" like a midwesterner
in the U.S.--kind of  nasal? Or do you say  the "a" like you were saying 
(for instance) aha! (like a discovery).  So when the Japanese say Baren
are they saying Bah (the broad way "aha" way) or "ba" to rhyme
with "yeah!"
Hee hee.

* * *

Now I want to add this, only because I think it's important.  I went
to hear the Dalai Lama speak in Greensburg, Pennsylvania yesterday.
He advises us to develop in ourselves that one thing that can change the
condition of our world--human affection.  It will not only  affect our
personal health, but will make the planet habitable for the generations
that follow us.  And this is his advice for Americans.  He said we are too up
and down in our emotions.  He said we need to relax a little for the sake of
our health.  I took many notes as he spoke.
  
 I feel here on Baren we do have affection for one another, and I'm 
happy to be a part of this group.

Gayle Wohlken

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:44:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 2074] Re: Baren Digest V5 #340 

Gayle wrote......
>And yes, I probably do not wait the 12 hours
>you say it takes to set up the shellac.

Shellac takes only a couple of hours to dry...Varnish takes 12 hours.
A thought about Shellac.....
it is not compatible with water or water base pigments in event any
one was thinking to use it on there plates.  It can go white and eventually
soften.

Graham

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:56:41 +0900
Subject: [Baren 2075] A as in abracadabra ... 

Galye giggled ...
>Dave, do you speak English with a British accent.  That too could make
>a difference how "baren:  the pronunciation" is understood.  You said 
>ba (as in bath)  Do you pronounce the "a" in  "bath" like a midwesterner
>in the U.S.--kind of  nasal? Or do you say  the "a" like you were saying 
>(for instance) aha! (like a discovery).  So when the Japanese say Baren
>are they saying Bah (the broad way "aha" way) or "ba" to rhyme
>with "yeah!"
>Hee hee

Good grief!  How on earth can I answer _this_ one?  What word can I
possibly choose to show the pronunciation that will be the same in
midwestern, californian, 'english', new englandern, ...   Mission
Impossible, that's what!

But Bill Ritchie came to the rescue this morning, with an excellent
idea.  He sent me a .wav file containing his voice speaking the word
'baren'.  I was able to hear it very clearly, and make some comments to
him about it.  This is _much_ better than trying to use 'ba' as in
'bath', etc.

So using his idea, I've done the same thing.  I just uploaded a small
.wav file to:
http://www.woodblock.com/forum/archives/vol05/extras/baren.wav

(If your browser is set up OK, then you should be able just to click that
link and hear the file.  If not, then you can download it with an FTP
program.  Once it's on your system, Windows users should be able to hear 
the file immediately.  Mac users can probably best hear it by using the 
'Movie Player' program to convert it to a short 'movie' - although it might 
run with a 'double click', depending on how you've got your system set up.)

But I'd better explain what it 'says'.

> Gosho-san no baren wa totemo ii baren desu ne!

Gosho-san ... 
no ... symbol showing possession
baren ... 
wa ... symbol showing that the previous word is the subject
totemo ...  very
ii ... good
baren ... 
desu ne ... isn't it!

So you should be able to pick out the word 'baren' twice ...

Dave

Hee hee ...

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