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Baren Digest              Friday, 5 February 1999      Volume 06 : Number 435

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From: amoss@mindspring.com (JOHN AMOSS)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:21:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baren 2926] re: sidney workshop 

Host Graham-
Your workshop sounds great!
The only questions I have concern the availability of blocks and paper.

I would be surprised if you don't get enough takers from the Baren group,
but if you did have trouble getting the 8 "bods", McClain's Elaine Chandler
apparently is getting a list of workshops together for the year.

- -Parasite John

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:33:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 2927] Re: sidney workshop 

John wrote....
>Your workshop sounds great!
>The only questions I have concern the availability of blocks and paper.

The blocks do not present a problem.  Paper well I can fish around to find
something we can work on that would produce results.   It would have to be
reasonably priced. We will work on this.

Graham

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From: mmflavio <mmflavio@slip.net>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:59:43 +0000
Subject: [Baren 2928] Re: sidney workshop 

hello Graham,
I would be interested in your workshop.
Water based with a baren OK?
Could I have a few more details, I must have missed the post.
Thanks,
Marco Flavio

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From: Jean Eger <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 07:50:29 -0800
Subject: [Baren 2929] Re: Baren Digest V6 #434 

Hi Bea,
I was having a lot of problems with paper sticking. Then someone suggested
that I should be sizing the paper.  Big improvement!!  I used the paper
size from the Walter Phillips book.  It's 1/4 oz. alum, 1 envelope
unflavored gelatin, 35 oz. water, dissolved in boiling water.  Paint the
warm size on the paper.  Let it dry, then proceed.

Jeanne, don't give up on the water-based inks.  It takes awhile to learn
how to to it.  You could proceed on some small prints!  When you get old,
you will wish you had been working with less toxic materials.

Jean Eger

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:54:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 2930] Re: sidney workshop 

Graham
I am all tied up for l999, but if the workshop continues the following year,
I am positively in.
I am sure you will not have any problems getting a full compliment for the
workshop.  If not to take the workshop, then to meet the Grand Wizard of
Barens.

Jeanne

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:50:17 -0500
Subject: [Baren 2931] Re: Baren Digest V6 #434 

Dear Jean
Thanks for the compliment {when I get old}. Remember , I am the one who
mentioned the "HIT PARADE"!
I am sure with everyone helping out with all the good advice, I will not
have any problems. I have a good supply of watercolors, once {25 years ago},
I was strictly a watercolorist. But painting and printing are two distant
cousins.
My next print is going to be one with watercolor.
How do you know if a paper is sized or not?
I ordered some Kitataka and have lots of Rives lightweight, is there some
where that I can find out if the paper is sized, or is there a magic test?
See, I am asking questions already, and when I have finished this print, if
it is halfway decent, I will put it on my Web Page for all the critics out
there to give me a grade.

Jeanne

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:11:01 -0800
Subject: [Baren 2932] Re: sidney workshop 

Marco,

Here are the details I posted. It pretty well covers all the important
detail. ...like money.
There will be other details come up and we will handle them as required.

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>Date;  June 20th to 27th 1999
>Location. Victoria BC.
>Workshop: 6 days of Instruction  Studio open 24hrs. $480.00
>Maxiumum 8 (eight) students.
>This does not include supplies.
>1/2 day visit to public gallery to see woodblock prints by Japanese masters
>and present day artist.
>Accommodation: 7 nights On Site includes breakfast and lunch. $460.00
>Dinners and transportation not included.

>Total package...... $940.00 Can$
>That's approximately $560.00
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>Water based with a baren OK?

Definitely.....is there any other way.?

Let us know if there is anything else you require.

John Amoss sent the following
> >I would be surprised if you don't get enough takers from the Baren group,
> >but if you did have trouble getting the 8 "bods", McClain's Elaine Chandler
> >apparently is getting a list of workshops together for the year.

We are offering it just to the Baren Group at this time.....you guys get
first refusal.
In about a week we will submit it to McClain's

Graham

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Subject: [Baren 2933] 
Duplicate posting

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From: "Ray Esposito" <brassring@brassring.org>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:05:58 -0500
Subject: [Baren 2934] Re: sidney workshop 

To all:

I can't make this workshop but I can tell everyone this is a GREAT deal.  If
I had not already made a commitment the week before, I would jump at this.
For US citizens, $500-$600 for a week of instruction, accommodations and two
meals a day is fantastic.  As someone who takes two to three workshops a
year and pays a lot of money for them, I can tell you that anyone wanting to
learn woodcut would be foolish not to jump on this.  I envy all who make it
and we who are left behind expect a full report.  Especially what it is like
living with Graham for a week.  (That might be worth the price all by
itself!!!!)

Cheers

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From: Jean Eger <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:09:19 -0800
Subject: [Baren 2935] Re: Baren Digest V6 #434 

	I received the following message from Katherine McKay.  She's giving two
weekend workshops and one seven-Saturday course this spring in Japanese
printmaking.  
	The first weekend workshop will be at the Mendocino, California,  Art
Center in Mendocino on May 8 and 9, 1999, from 9:30 to 4:30 each day with
an hour for lunch.  For further information, call the Mendocino Art Center
at 1-800-653-3328.
	The second weekend workshop will be at the Pacific Art League in Palo
Alto, California, on May 15 and 16, 1999, same hours.  For further
information, call the Pacific Art League at 650-321-3891.
	The long course will be held through University of California Extension
Program in San Francisco, California,  55 Laguna Avenue, on Saturdays,
March 6 through April 24 (no meeting April 3), 10 to 4, offers 2 semester
CEU units in design.  To register for this course, call UC Extension Progam
at 510-642-4111 and mention course #EDP 036376.

Jean Eger

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:31:50 +0900
Subject: [Baren 2936] Re: sizing? 

Jeanne asked:
> How do you know if a paper is sized or not?
> I ordered some Kitataka and have lots of Rives lightweight, is there some
> where that I can find out if the paper is sized, or is there a magic test?

There were some important comments on this passed back and forth some
months ago.  They are in Digest #324 ...

http://www.woodblock.com/forum/archives/vol05/v05_324.txt

Dave

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From: Wanda Robertson <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:57:05 -0700
Subject: [Baren 2937] Re: sidney workshop 

Graham,

I am definitely interested in this workshop. Do you want some kind of
deposit or anything? And would you want us to bring some of the supplies?
To learn how to do it right (from the beginning, I've only done ink - 
and not much of that) would just be wonderful! Plus, I'm not *too* far
away (OR), so I think I could do that. 

One thing, why is the title "sidney workshop"? I thought: "Oh another
great workshop I won't be going to in Sydney Australia" :-)

Wanda

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From: Wanda Robertson <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:20:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 2938] Re: sidney workshop 

Oops! Meant that to go just to Graham. & never mind the "Sidney"
question, I went & looked at the bed & breakfast home page. How
exciting- off to find some maps and make some plans!

Wanda

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnjgold@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:13:31 -0800
Subject: [Baren 2939] Deacidiification spray 

From Bea Gold - I have some very small pen and ink drawings that were done
in the 40s matted and framed in the 70s and hanging in a spot where they are
seen every day.  I began to notice that the edges of the paper under the
mats were turning brown and slipping down behind the mat.  There are four
frames and you could see damage in each of them  I began looking for
something to stop the destruction.  I found an archive catalog called Light
Impressions and bought a can of Bookkeeper Deacidiification Spray.  It cost
a fortune but the alternative was art DEATH.  It was about $50 for a 16 oz.
can.  The good thing is that you use very little.  I am using it now on
paper I think might not be acid free.  I'm also watching that tape for
matting is acid  free.  The masking tape used in these frames is
disintegrating also.  They also have a line for matting. framing an
preserving art.  www.lightimpressionsdirect.com

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From: Gary Luedtke <GLuedtke@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:27:03 -0500
Subject: [Baren 2940] Insect Art 

   Indeed an interesting site, Dave, this Caddis-worm jewelry maker.   

http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/isast/articles/duprat/duprat.html

Your question of how this might apply to woodblockers got me thinking.   Suppose
you took your block and transferred your design to it with termite
repellent, as well as coating the back-side of the block generously, then
tossed it into a termite pit for a week or so.   Come back later, and
voila, the termites have done all the carving for you.  They do leave nice
clean lines at the edge of their work, just knock off the mud, brush it
clean, dab a little paste and pigment on it, and you're ready to start
printing.    Just think how much more you could get done without having to
worry anymore about carving.   And it would be so natural.  Maybe Graham
could get a hold of a bunch of these little guys and train them at a Summer
workshop.  Sure couldn't let 'em into Baren After Five though, if these
little guys get all liquored up there's no telling what kind of abstract
art you'd end up with!

Yep, things are pretty quiet out here on the plains.

Gary

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From: Gary Luedtke <GLuedtke@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:40:48 -0500
Subject: [Baren 2941] Deacidiification spray 

Bea,
   
   You mentioned,         " I'm also watching that tape for matting is acid
 free.  The masking tape used in these frames is disintegrating also."  

  I know that they make "artist's tape" and that sort of thing for
acid-free matting, but something else I found that works even better is
surgical tape.   It is thinner, so doesn't separate the front and rear
matte when it's hinged over, it sticks very well, yet can be removed fairly
easily without damaging the print, even a long time later.  It is fairly
open so the paper can breathe that it's attached to, though only a small
section is really needed to hold the print to the rear matte.   However I
don't know where you can get it, unless you know someone who works in a
hospital.   It is white, comes in varying widths, and a little goes a long
way.   I don't know for a fact that it is acid-free, but have never seen
any evidence of staining or deterioration, and I've used it for years.   I
believe it's main medical purpose is to hold dressings onto the skin and
doubt there'd be any harmful substances in it.   Just a thought.

Gary

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@islandnet.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:52:26 -0800
Subject: [Baren 2942] Re: Deacidiification spray 

Gary wrote....
>  I know that they make "artist's tape" and that sort of thing for
>acid-free matting.

Acid free framing tape which is made in Germany and sold by distributers of
framing material is Filmolux products. The name of the tape is Filmoplast
P90. Expensive but the best.

Regards,

Graham

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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:38:20 -1000
Subject: [Baren 2943] Re: Deacidiification spray 

Gary Luedtke wrote:
>   I know that they make "artist's tape" and that sort of thing for
> acid-free matting, but something else I found that works even better is
> surgical tape.  I don't know for a fact that it is acid-free, but have never
> seen any evidence of staining or deterioration, and I've used it for years.

Interesting idea, I haven't run across this use before, but I would wonder
if it really is acid free. If it's base is not paper, but some kind of
cloth, then there is a better chance of it being neutral. The old standby is
hinges of rice paste and japanese paper, and you all should be able to find
some of that  laying around somewhere. Acid free, never unsticks, and yet it
is easly removed with no residue left behind.

Jack Reisland

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Subject: [Baren 2944]
Junk mail ...

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