[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Monday, 8 March 1999 Volume 06 : Number 480 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:54:23 EST Subject: [Baren 3439] Re: Paper Bea wrote: >How do I get in line to see Dave's video? How many people were part of >the print exchange? There are two more people on the list - Lynita & James Mundie - if you want me to add you onto the end of the list, send me an email w/your snail-mail address, and I'll add you onto it before I send it out to Lynita - Sarah ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:05:13 EST Subject: [Baren 3440] Re: Dave's video Bea - I've added you to the list to see the video - look forward to meeting you in person at April's workshop if you can come - Best regards, Sarah ------------------------------ From: "Brad A. Schwartz" Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 06:46:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 3441] Re: Paper Nao Daniel Kelly wrote: >I just want to throw in that gampi is available from multiple sources in a >large variety of colors. Its often used in chine colle due to its thinness. One of the best places for all kinds of papers in the US is Dolphin Papers DOLPHIN PAPERS..............................(317) 634-0506 1125 BROOKSIDE AVE # G900 INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA The best thing about them is you can get quantity discounts with mix and match paper selections... So, if you have a few people that want to order paper, and between all of them come up with 500 sheets of different papers to order, you all get the 500 sheet discount... :) Nice. They have lots of european and japanese papers and are usually much cheaper than Daniel Smith and various other places... Brad ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:54:33 -0500 Subject: [Baren 3442] Re: printing with an etching press; James wrote: > I for one am quite interested to hear about your use of an >etching press for printing woodblocks. how do you etching press users keep >the blankets from causing >a deep embossment on the paper? I'm assuming you remove at least one of >the blankets and insert something like a tympan sheet between to create a >soft but stiff barrier between block and roller. I always use an etching press to print my blocks. I use 3/4 " or 1/2" plywood so the blocks don't warp enough to split when pressure is applied. For blankets, I only use two, not the usual three used for intaglio printing. Then I build "furniture" - using cardboard, I make a sort of step arrangement, so that the bottom step sits on the press bed away from the block, and the top step is the height and width of the block, and sits against it. You place one of these at each end of the block. This way, when the roller goes over the block, it gradually increases height, thus not harming the roller or the blankets or the paper (and gradually comes down at the other end of the block). When working on new blocks, you always have to test and adjust the pressure so that you have just enough to create a good impression without significant embossing. P.S. I have seen the slide show and am very impressed with the work by this group! *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: tholman@clark.net http://www.clark.net/pub/tholman/shireen/index.htm *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: Kim Itkonen Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:14:26 -0800 Subject: [Baren 3443] new here Hi all, What a pleasure to find a list with so many congenial woodblock artists! I'm a newbie to the list and to woodblock printing although I have had the technique on my want-to-do list for ten years. I even bought a suitable piece of basswood that long ago. I've been an ardent admirer of shin hanga artists and managed to find a few prints in the artist as collector price range. (Looking back over my paintings of the last couple of years I think I detect the subtle influence of Kawase Hasui.) I recently took a printmaking class with Bill Kelly and Michele Burgess of Brighton Press here in San Diego and I fell in love with woodblock. My living room is becoming very messy with wood chips! I joined the list just a week ago when the Christmas-like reverie over the print exchange was beginning. I can hardly wait to see the slide show of the collection! I, too, would like to view the video if it veers anywhere near southern California. Kim Itkonen http://www.seenhere.com ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:31:06 -0800 Subject: [Baren 3444] Printing press Jean D Parus wrote.... >I never heard of Daniel Patrick ... We have posted it here several times. See below >would it be worth looking at for supplies etc. do they have a website .... >can't have too many good supplier addresses Can help here as I am not into presses. The only thing I'm pressed for is time....... >Patrick Designs >426 Torrence Rd >Comox, BC >V9M 3L8 > >Voice 250 339 3109 >Fax 250 339 8196 >E-Mail danpat@comox.island.net ------------------------------ From: "Jean D Parus" Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:31:12 -0500 Subject: [Baren 3446] Re: Printing press Graham ... thanks for press address! Jean ------------------------------ From: "Ray Esposito" Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:46:36 -0500 Subject: [Baren 3447] Re: new here Kim Welcome to Baren. Never hesitate to ask questions or give your opinions. Have you looked at the encylopedia? If not take a look at http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/index.html It's a great place to start. Cheers Ray ------------------------------ From: Gregory Robison Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:45:44 +0300 Subject: [Baren 3449] Re: Baren Digest V6 #476 Kampala, 8 March 1999 It has truly become insufferable around here, I can barely breathe ...all the "oohs" and "aahs" of the exchange participants, all their giddy delight and airy, dismissive condescensions to the rest of us: "oh, you really should see this, but of course you can't...even if you see it on Dave's web site...pixels aren't paper after all, n'est-ce pas?" Oh, it hurts. And it doesn't help that those of us who arrived to Baren too late, who whistled a jaunty tune to ourselves all winter long and smiled contentedly as we watched you Exchangers sweat the deadline and grieve over culls and air your pangs of self-doubt and shriek in frustration...no, the memory of all this does not assuage the sting of exclusion we feel now. And to make matters worse, you've gone about canonizing yourselves! We have now our very own St. James, our St. John... Oh, the pain, especially today, on the feast of St. John of God who, we were pointedly reminded, is the patron of printmakers. Well I don't know how he came to be patron of printmakers, but I do know that the reputation he had with a knive had nothing to do with woodblocks! In any case, I added St. John to the litany tonight, I made my obeisances and prayed for you all, not without some muttering under my breath, until I remembered my mother's words, that "a martyr is someone who has to live with a saint" -- and I immediately lit a second candle, for we Holy Martyrs, and took some solace in the smug delight we will feel next year, as we snub the newbies who will have arrived too late to participate in the next exchange...! I need a drink. Sthbaropen, Ray? ------------------------------ From: "Ray Esposito" Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Baren 3450] Re: Baren Digest V6 #476 Greg You poor dear. So put upon by us oldies but preparing, with obvious glee I might add, to put it to the next group of newbies. I would love to serve up a brew but you are in the wrong place. However, in your eagerness to try to make us all feel sorry for you, you posted in the wrong place. This is Baren, the church of St. David the Creative, Guru and Master of the Woodblock. For drinks, you need to come to BA5 where Ray, Father Abbot, His Serenity Ray Al-Esposito ben-Tippler can admister the proper emollients that will allow you to get through this trying time in your life. While under the roof of Baren I can offer only solace. But at BA5, I can see to it that both of us have enough beer in which to cry the night away and should some lasses in red dresses join us, we could party until our cares about everything are just memories. Cheers Ray ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:52:48 -0800 Subject: [Baren 3451] Re: new here Rat wrote.... >Welcome to Baren. Never hesitate to ask questions or give your opinions. >Have you looked at the encylopedia? If not take a look at >http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/index.html It's a great place to >start. Hey, I can't believe my eyes.....Nay a little diggie about me..... Are you feeling alright. Gees don't get sick until after the workshop here. Welcome a board .....Kim. Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:52:55 -0800 Subject: [Baren 3452] Re: Baren Digest V6 #476 Greg wrote.... >It has truly become insufferable around here, I can barely breathe ... I think I can help you Greg... Everything has a price...... Ray, what do you think would be a fair price for the premier set...Numero uno....the first of its kind? Graham ------------------------------ From: Elizabeth Atwood Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:56:53 -0500 Subject: [Baren 3453] Prints Arriving! On Saturday, just ahead of the best snow blizzard we have had all winter.......my print exchange collection arrived. What an impressive array of styles, etc.........wonderful!...thank you all! While the wind howled and the snow swirled, we settled in front of the fireplace and slowly, slowly enjoyed every print.....and then did it all over again, this time connecting the names. The portfolio is beautifully made. I have made a few of these cases....so I'm glad I left the job to an expert. Hope everyone did. What a bargain! I have a question about Ruth Leaf whom everyone seems to know. I gather she is a wellknown teacher...with a text. What is the title of her book??? Welcome, Ruth! I took a class in relief etching where we fashioned our plates out of Sculpy and creating a very unusual effect. Is this a known form of etching or just one teacher's strange idea? Listening to the talk of schools phasing out their print departments...... Contrarily, I have been surprised on this Baren to hear of all the print dept.s that are still in operation. In my experience, a high point in printmaking appreciation was back in the late 60s and 70s.....that was a time of high sales, awards and print schools, etc. THEN came the painting reproductions entitled "prints" and the public, in total confusion, fell away. I like to believe that the Baren group can create a new appreciation of print making and prints........just look how our numbers are increasing. And blasphemously, rather than destroying, I think digital prints can "help" in making ALL printmaking more visible. Good show, Baroners........ ElizA ------------------------------ From: Ruth Leaf Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 13:20:58 -0800 Subject: [Baren 3454] Wood warping I found another little trick when using pine wood for cutting. If you get boiled linseed oil and coat the pine wood, both sides top and bottom and leave it for 6 weeks or so. It will drive out all the water . It makes the wood crisp and nice to cut. Ruth ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:57:29 -0600 Subject: [Baren 3456] re: Name-calling Graham replies to Ray: "Rat wrote.... >Welcome to Baren. Never hesitate to ask questions or give your opinions. >Have you looked at the encylopedia? If not take a look at >http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/index.html It's a great place to >start. Hey, I can't believe my eyes.....Nay a little diggie about me..... Are you feeling alright. Gees don't get sick until after the workshop here." Hey Ray........are you going to let Graham get away with calling you a RAT ? or was that just a slip of the finger ? JULIO {:-) ------------------------------ From: "Ray Esposito" Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:10:13 -0500 Subject: [Baren 3457] Re: Name-calling Don't you EVER believe that Graham had a "slip of the finger". He writes what he writes. Alas, since I am commited to his workshop, he has my money, I am forced to go easy for fear I may not get fed. Actually, the ONLY reason I am going is to meet Marnie. ANY woman who can put up with Graham should be worshipped as a saint. By the way, I know John Amoss is going to be there. Are any other Baren members signing up? Cheers Ray ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V6 #480 ***************************