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Baren Digest               Saturday, 3 April 1999       Volume 07 : Number 512

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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3811] Re: Baren Digest V7 #511 

Dave said, regarding Michael's website
> But be warned that it's very heavy on the Java.  Browsers of 4.XX and up
> are strongly recommended.

This didn't work for me I guess because I have Netscape 3.1; sorry,
Michael, I would like to have seen this.  Anybody else have trouble?

Marco, you must have a popular site.  I can't get into it.  Netscape 
just sits there with comets flying and nothing happens.  Guess I have
to wait in line.

Gayle Wohlken

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:30:59 -0500
Subject: [Baren 3812] Re: Baren Digest V7 #511  

I cannot get into Michaels OR Marcos Web site, very frustrating.
Just get a Not Found.

Sometimes I have a Love Hate relationship with computers!!!!

Jeanne

Yes, Yes, Marias Web site is great!!!!  Go visit!!!

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:43:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 3813] Michael's  url 

 Michael,

I just could not get around your site with comfort.

It takes a long time to get to the images and when I did I had to keep
going back to the main page to go to another.

I saw a couple of images but ....  no time   ....  takes too long too set
up...too long to move within the site and your symbols were too confusing.
I always remember to first rule......KISS ..... 'Keep it Simple Students"

My 2 cents worth

I liked the two images I saw and would like to see more but.....well you
got the idea.

Regards,

Graham

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From: April Vollmer/John Yamaguchi <jy6@columbia.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:10:56 -0400
Subject: [Baren 3814] A as in Graham/BINDERS 

Oh no! all this great information and I havn't checked my mail for DAYS!
I'm still not caught up, but I wanted to thank everyone for the wonderful
binder info.

Okay, GrAhAm, thanks for the name correction! I use the methyl cellulose as
a thickener-smoother, which I add on the block as needed to make the color
thicker or thinner. (For example I use less when I'm printing fine lines so
the color doesn't blob up.)

As Daniel Kelly says, to control the viscocity. I thought it was too weak
to be considered a true binder. The binder in the sumi ink is an animal
glue, so I suppose it makes sense it could be added to pigment. I have been
using gum arabic instead, though maybe I don't need to add anything.

Thank you Dave, Jack, Daniel and everyone, this is information I've been
trying to clarify for a long time now! I am preoccupied at the moment with
a visit from my brother and his family, but I wanted to thank everyone for
the BINDER input!!!

More when I catch up!

April Vollmer

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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:51:20 +0000
Subject: [Baren 3815] Re: A as in Graham/BINDERS 

April wrote:
> Thank you Dave, Jack, Daniel and everyone, this is information I've been
> trying to clarify for a long time now!

You mean you thought we actually cleared that up?

Jack

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From: Mariten@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:00:22 EST
Subject: [Baren 3816] Re: webpages & studio 

Dave wrote:
>Congratulations Maria, this is excellent work.  Do you _have_ all those
> books in your library?!?

Thanks all, for your nice comments. I have already received some 
contributions for the mural; should be fun to look at in a few weeks. Yes, 
all those books and more in my library, good thing my hubby likes making 
bookshelves! There are still a few more books on printmaking and Japanese 
prints that I haven't had time to catalog; I've read them all, is the scary 
part. Not much of a TV watcher!
I will put inside photos of the studio very soon, my scanner got tired and 
wanted a day off.
I have again been browsing through some of the baren members web sites; I 
recommend that to anyone looking for inspiration, what a talented group!
I'm starting my first water-based print and very excited about it.
Health to all,

Maria in LV

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From: April Vollmer/John Yamaguchi <jy6@columbia.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:50:43 -0400
Subject: [Baren 3817] Secret Agents 

I had trouble with Marco's and Michael's sites, the first doesn't seem to
load, and the second had too much Java...hope to catch you both later!
Maria came through loud and clear. Glad to hear James Mundie is toiling on
another project, havn't heard his voice lately. And of course, it is always
a pleasure to see what Dave has been up to! I love the Hokusai manga, what
a great way to start your surimono series. It should be interesting to use
the work of a variety of ukiyo-e artists. Your newsletter was excellent,
and gives a little more detail about your project...it was very moving to
read some more details.

As I mentioned, I appreciated all the technical details of binders and
viscocity agents from everyone. I guess it makes sense that ox bone glue is
a binder for Japanese colors, since it binds the sumi ink used in printing.
I've tried to clarify this issue for a very long time now, It's great to
hear from people who have experience.

I'm not ready to try a print for the second exchange....it was too much
work to do very often! Sarah Hauser and I did meet with Judy Mensch of
Manhattan Graphics about showing the first exchange. I think it would be a
nice way to let people know about Baren. We all talked about how special
the project was: the contrast of this very old traditional technique being
shared over the internet, in this very modern, international forum. It
really is a special thing! (I guess we know that already!)

And to follow up on a note from last week ('don't tell Graham'), I have
been enjoying working in Photoshop 5, some great new features. I have been
using it to plan out images for my woodcuts. I print them in black and
white and then transfer them to my blocks. Another traditional/contemporary
contrast, I guess.

P.S. hope I havn't been missing too many good jokes on BA5?

April Vollmer

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From: Jean Eger <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 00:55:30 -0800
Subject: [Baren 3818] April's prints 

Check out April's beautiful prints on a beautiful web site, the Lower East
Side Printshop
http://www.printshop.org/home.html
in the "on sale" section.
Jean Eger

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From: Michael Schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:50:11 +0200
Subject: [Baren 3819] Re: Secret Agents 

[Baren] members wrote:
> I cannot get into Michaels OR Marcos Web site, very frustrating.
> Just get a Not Found.

> But be warned that it's very heavy on the Java.  Browsers of 4.XX and up
> are strongly recommended.

> I just could not get around your site with comfort.

To all of you who spent the time and took the trouble visiting my site, and
especially for graham,

my home page is at :
http://www.t0.or.at/~mikasch 

This site should be no problem
for any browser and fast loading (only one simple gif-animation is integrated),
but as working on the cd-rom project was so time consuming, I was not able to
update the site recently.
The site: http://www.t0.or.at/~mikasch/rekon/start.htm is a watered down
version of the cd-rom, just to make it possible to have a glimpse on what the
cd is like. It is not designed for easy access but to offer many different ways
of exploring the contents and discover on your own. The cd-rom comes with the
netscape communicator 4.5 and was designed for this browser. (MS-browser do not
support the java-scritp I used)
Despite all that, I am able to offer a short cut to the list of images:

http://www.t0.or.at/~mikasch/rekon/cd_html/videod.htm

michael

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