[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Friday, 9 April 1999 Volume 07 : Number 520 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: amoss@mindspring.com (John Amoss) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 3905] textures Dave- After looking at your Sukenobo surimono drawing again: I can't help but ask how you carved/will carve the dry brush texture for the cherry tree's trunk to the center right. Are you using the "sabi" technique of criss-crossing cuts to produce the brush-stroke-like marks described in Hiroshi Yoshida's book? I've seen a similar effect in many of Hokusai prints and they look so much like brush painting, it's confounding... Yet another mystery waiting to be revealed... - -John ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:32:31 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3906] a pretty girl is like a melody... Jeanne wrote.... > I had a great model for 10 Years and could depend on her, >when she moved it took me awhile to find another. >It would be easier if we would just do still lifes or flowers or >landscapes. They are always available! Ah yes, but as we all know..... When you can draw anything ... but don't do life drawing... you can't draw everything. If you didn't, you do now!!!! Regards, Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:48:03 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3907] New image. Have a new thingie on my site. Go to: http://www.members.home.net/gscholes/ and click the 'NEWEST IMAGE' button. or for those who only travel the fast lane..... http://www.members.home.net/gscholes/Chrome.html Enjoy. PS. We have some pressure off around here... You know that show at the Art Gallery of Victoria..... we have good news and bad news...... The good news is will be hanging for 2 1/2 months...... The bad news is it will open July 9th and go to Sept 26th. We can live with that. Should be able to get 1/2 dozen more pieces......Get serious Graham. Cheers Graham ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:13:33 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3908] Re: New image. Oh sure, Graham, we'll help you while the workshop is going on..... You always wanted some apprentices to do your work, right? The new image is wonderful, love the clouds and the reflections in the water. Thanks for the *fast lane*! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Jacob Roquet Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:13:47 -0400 Subject: [Baren 3909] Books I was looking for the Yoshida book on bookfinder.com. that John mentioned, (It's not listed) Does anyone have any experience with these books: TIA [Strong, Austin]. Fletcher, F. Morley WOOD-BLOCK PRINTING. A Description of the Craft of Woodcutting & Colour Printing Based on the Japanese Practice. FLETCHER, Frank Morley WOOD-BLOCK PRINTING. A Description of the Craft of Woodcutting and Colour Printing Based on the Japanese Practice... US$75.00 Publisher: London: Isaac Pitman, [ca. 1924].; With an original color woodcut by the author. Fletcher's seminal treatise on creating color woodcuts had a wide influence in England and America. Fletcher (1866-1949) was born in England, where he began his career as an artist and teacher. In 1923 he moved to Santa Barbara where he became affiliated with the California landscape tradition. 8vo, xxiii, 132 + ads pp, frontis, 23 plates including an orig. color woodblock by the author, illustrations thr... Dailey Rare Books, ABAA Buy/Info OKA, ISABURO Hiroshiege. (Last great master of Japanese tradition of woodblock printing, 1797-1858) Kodansha Internl. US$35.00 Publisher: (1982; 48 pp. oversized, 1st ed.w.d.j., OP. John & Mary Rybski, Booksellers> ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne N. Chase" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:00:41 -0400 Subject: [Baren 3910] Re: New image. Graham When you say ; an edition of 75 and then 8 (might have the # wrong). hand colored prints. Do you hand color them exactly like the edition of 75 ? Or are they different colors? What? I am confused (my natural state). This sounds interesting and something I would like to do. When you hand color a print, does it have to be the same as the edition, is what I am trying to say.? Anyway, a glorious looking print! Jeanne, still learning after all these years!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Michael Schneider Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:42:54 +0200 Subject: [Baren 3913] new print on the net I almost forgot to tell you that a new print of mine is on the net. its at: http://www.vhs.at/kleine.galerie/dp99.htm I promise, on this site is no java, no animation's, no nothing to bring down your browser (also, sorry, there is no information in english.)! michael ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:09:17 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3915] Re: New image. Jeanne wrote: >When you say ; an edition of 75 >and then 8 (might have the # wrong). hand colored prints. Do you hand color >them exactly like the edition of 75 ? The caption with the image is: Chrome Island Image Size 8 x 12" Frame Size 15" x 19" Framed $ 390.00 Unframed $ 295.00 Prices are Canadian $ 18 Hand Printed Colours Edition size 75. I state Hand Printed Colours because when you say burnished .....john Q public does not seem to understand the term I guess in a way they are hand coloured.....but not by hand in the common term but hand coloured by the means of inking a plate and doing it in the traditional ........well you know. Thanks, Graham ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:54:51 +0900 Subject: [Baren 3916] questions and answers ... Sarah asked us about her 'monkey' print a while ago ... The images are now up for inspection at: http://woodblock.com/temporary/monkey.jpg http://woodblock.com/temporary/seal.jpg Are you sure it's a _print_ Sarah? At this small scale it looks quite like a painting ... *** John asked, re the 'surimono' image at: http://woodblock.com/surimono/1999/1-2/display_print_1-2.html > I can't help but ask how you carved/will carve the dry brush texture for > the cherry tree's trunk to the center right. Are you using the "sabi" > technique of criss-crossing cuts to produce the brush-stroke-like marks > described in Hiroshi Yoshida's book? Yes, exactly. This is my first chance to try this technique, as I couldn't do it on the poets' prints because they were all done in a very clean and smooth carving style. Here's a close-up of my block, at the top of the tree trunk: http://woodblock.com/surimono/1999/1-2/images/sabi.jpg Note for Gayle: now you can perhaps see the 'flat top' on those leaves? *** Jake asked: > I was looking for the Yoshida book on bookfinder.com. that John mentioned, > (It's not listed) Does anyone have any experience with these books: > > [Strong, Austin]. Fletcher, F. Morley WOOD-BLOCK PRINTING. A Description > of the Craft of Woodcutting & Colour Printing Based on the Japanese > Practice. Jake, both of these books are in the Encyclopedia in their entirety. Of course they are also certainly worth buying, but they will be expensive I think. Last price I saw for the Yoshida book here in Japan was about $500 US, and the Fletcher book was around $100 ... Dave ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:28:39 EDT Subject: [Baren 3917] Re: New image. graham, i just saw your latest print and its amazing! im new at this and dont know much about this technique of inking. i took one weekend workshop from a japanese artist and we used watercolors and rice paste. my question is..... are you using watercolors on these or block ink? your work is wonderful i have seen nothing but high quality work at this site. thanks georga ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:59:18 +0900 Subject: [Baren 3918] Couple more points ... Couple of things I forgot to mention earlier this morning: Encyclopedia: A couple of interesting updates went into the Encyclopedia the other day. One you've already seen - Jack's comments on paper degradation - but the other one is new to you. Ruth Leaf sent me a piece on using an etching press to pull woodblock prints. A number of you showed interest in this when it was discussed a while ago, so she has explained her procedure, and included an illustration of how she does it. Links to the two new pages can be found, as always, at: http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/updates.html *** Exchange: We are now down to the final open spot. 29 people have signed up, leaving just one space open ... It's 'now or never'! (Well, not exactly 'never', but at least until [Exchange 3] gets going ...) http://woodblock.com/forum/exchange_sign-up.html Dave ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:24:35 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3919] Re: New image. Georga wrote.... > i just saw your latest print and its amazing! my question is..... >are you using watercolors on these or block ink? The pigment I use is a colourant.... It is a pigement of finely ground colour suspended in a dispersant which makes it water base. Wonderful stuff.....so easy to use it is almost obscene. Thanks for the encouragement about my work I need that as I am incorrigible. Regards, Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:26:25 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3920] Re: New image. I just sent this and should have added..... Some of the people here no where to by this pigment in the States. They will come back on this I'm sure.. ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:00:27 EDT Subject: [Baren 3921] Re: New image. graham is this the pigment that was referred to recently? kremer pigmants?and what do you use as your dispersement? as i said im new to this thank you georga ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:44:19 -0700 Subject: [Baren 3922] Pigments. Yes I believe this is the name of the supplier They have an excellent web site at: http://www.kremer-pigmente.de/edaten/contents.htm#pigments It a very informative site and much can be pickup there about pigments of all kinds. Another web site worth a visit is: http://www.goldenpaints.com/ The product I am able to purchase here is already mixed with dispersants and the only thing required of me is to ad a little water to dilute the thick paste like colourant and ad rice paste (a dab or two on the plate before spreading the colour with the inking brush. I have a complete set of powder pigments, (about 9 colours) and have used these by mixing them with pure alcohol. I have some of the dispersant mix that I can put in with the powder pigments for even easier mixing. All in all thought the use of powder pigments are a .....well pain.... Dave, I believe, mixes up his powder colours into paste ahead of time and has these available on the ready which is a good way to do it. Hope this helps.. Graham ------------------------------ From: Bebegig Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:16:26 +0700 Subject: [Baren 3923] introduce Hi everybody, I am a new comer in "Baren." My basic job is painting and installation (with performance art), but since 80's I love woodblock print too. This time, I would like to say hello to Baren Community and just try to introduce myself to everybody. A little about me and my work on woodblock print, please check at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/9275/work4.html Herry Dim ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:59:46 +0000 Subject: [Baren 3924] Re: introduce >I would like to say hello to Baren Community and just try to >introduce myself to everybody. Thank you for introducing yourself and your site, very nice stuff there, very powerful. It appeals to my German heritage, especially the woodblocks. Jack Reisland ------------------------------ From: "Daniel Kelly" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:44:52 +0900 Subject: [Baren 3925] Re: introduce Herry Dim I found your self portrait to be wonderful..... its' use of the direct and clear print medium... refreshing and still it resembles classic taste... D ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V7 #520 ***************************