[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Monday, 21 June 1999 Volume 07 : Number 604 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: April Vollmer Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:59:12 -0400 Subject: [Baren 4718] Barens Dear Graham and Barbara, thank you for all your efforts to get me a baren! Graham, your Yoshida barens are certainly a steal! any chance I could order some? I tried calling Barbara as you suggested, but seem to have got the number wrong. So I will try Judy Mensch's suggestion of New York Central. We're all looking forward to the report on your class! April Vollmer ------------------------------ From: Kat Pukas Date: 20 Jun 99 14:32:30 MST Subject: [Baren 4719] Re: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.17) hi all. i just received a 18 mm surikomi bake, some black and red sumi, and some shina from mcclain's, and now i'm wondering what i'm supposed to do with it! i've read the baren encyclopedia almost cover to cover, trying to figure out the japanese woodblock technique. i still have a few questions (anyone! please do help! i'll be your friend!): 1. do i need to add paste to sumi ink to use it in printing? 2. i think i read some paste recipe in the baren encyclopedia that said to use "all-purpose flour" and water--was i hallucinating?? is that possible? not rice, but plain old kitchen all-purpose flour? 3. someone's printing process included shellacking the block with 50% shellac and 50% alcohol--does this interfere at all with the ink soaking into the wood? i have some plywood around that i prepared by staining and putting a layer of 100% shellac on them--can these be used for the japanese technique, or only for oil-based (western) technique? 4. is the surikomi bake used for putting the ink on the block? (how?) what are the differences (in use) for each of the brushes? there are at least four or five different kinds of brushes, and i understand that they are named for the different kinds of hair used in making them and that one of them (them one?) is used for sizing the paper (dosa) . . . but are the other three to be used for specific things? hmmm, trying to figure things out. thanks for any assistance, you wonderful people. love <3 & lint * ! kat & reuben ------------------------------ From: Mariten@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:40:04 EDT Subject: [Baren 4720] acid test From Maria in LV This is a question for the conservation experts in the group. I am purchasing hand-made papers from diverse sources these days, quite beautiful and varied stuff with the disadvantage that sometimes there isn't any information available on the paper itself. I am not so concerned about what the paper is made out of, but I am about long life, specifically, the pH of the paper. Question: is there a way that I can test this at home with some sort of acidity test? I have seen pH test kits in Light Impressions catalogs, anyone have any experience with these kits or how accurate they are, how difficult it is to test paper, etc? Thanks, Maria in 107 Las Vegas (but remember, it's a dry heat, which means the life gets sucked out of you slooooowly) ------------------------------ From: Gayle Wohlken Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:00:11 -0400 Subject: [Baren 4721] Re: Baren Digest V7 #603 I'm back from Tennessee and see we are all thinking of a self portrait for Exchange #4. I think I've jumped the gun on this for Exchange #2! But if you don't mind, I don't mind and would love to do another for Exchange #4. * * * Jean, if you can reach a state of meditation often, I think some very good things can happen healthwise. I heard a monk speak just before I left and he said when we are in a pure state of being, our cells can process healing, unblocked. * * * Who is planning to go to New York in October? I definitely want to be there for the Manhattan Graphics show. Judy, is the opening date set yet? Gayle ------------------------------ From: Gary Luedtke Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:27:27 -0400 Subject: [Baren 4722] acid test To Maria in LV, There is an inexpensive ph tester which is like a magic marker, but as to its accuracy, I can't vouch for that. I got mine at Dick Blick, but I suppose any Artist's Supply should carry them. You mark an inconspicuous corner or back of the paper and if it stays one color it is acid free, and if it turns another color it is acidic. If I find it, I'll get back on and give you the name of it, but it's been awhile since I've used it and I'm not sure where it may be hiding. Gary, in Kooool KC (87 today) ------------------------------ From: Gary Luedtke Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:42:54 -0400 Subject: [Baren 4723] acid test Maria, I did find it. Here's the info. It is called a "Paper and Board PH Testing Pen" made by Lineco, Inc. Catalog #L533-0019. The pen itself says ABBEY Ph Pen (Chlorophenol red). You draw a line on the suspect paper and read it as soon as it dries. Yellow=acid, purple=neutral or alkaline. That's it. Assuming of course the pen doesn't melt first on your way home. And tomorrow's the first day of Summer! You might check with Jack, our resident Conservationist, about the quality and reliability of such a pen, I'm no expert on these things. Gary ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:54:59 -0700 Subject: [Baren 4724] Re: Barens April wrote: >Dear Graham and Barbara, thank you for all your efforts to get me a baren! >Graham, your Yoshida barens are certainly a steal! any chance I could order >some? April, Yes I can arrange to get you some of these barens..... Let me know how many and I will ship them or get them shipped by Noboru Sawai out of Vancouver. Barbara has the Daniel Smith barens here at the workshop. Did you want some of them? >We're all looking forward to the report on your class! We're workin on it. A great day is the feed back. Tied barens, sharpened knives, prepared inking brushes....you know the burn and shape then fine tune with the shark skin. and finally prepared shina with sanding and varnishing ready for the image transfer tomorrow. Gawd am I pooped.....off to bed....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Graham ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:17:49 +0000 Subject: [Baren 4725] Re: acid test Mariawrote: > anyone > have any experience with these kits or how accurate they are, how difficult > it is to test paper, etc? The tests used by conservation labs to test the pH of paper are more accurate and more complicated than the Light Impressions kit, and often require electronic equipment. Although I have not used the kit from Light Impression, I believe that they will be accurate enough for your purposes, and should be relatively easy to use. Jack ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V7 #604 ***************************