[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Tuesday, 3 August 1999 Volume 08 : Number 648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SylTaylor@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:13:09 EDT Subject: [Baren 5132] Re: print-quilt > Are you > printing small areas and then sewing them together? Or is it a large cloth > printed with individual small blocks? Tell us more. I'm printing on white linen scraps...all different sizes ranging from about 10x10" to 3x3"-- but all the prints are different shapes and sizes. I printed on the wee fabric pieces first. Then I could select the prints I wanted and wouldn't risk wasting an entire quilt if one didn't turn out right. I kept arranging and rearranging the pieces to get the overall composition I liked. It was helpful to have a large "bank" of prints to pull from. So, I am now putting the finishing stitches in and I can't tell you how pleased i am with this. What fun! I'll be taking slides of all the work I've done here but I've not figured out how to do a website thing yet. That's next on the list. Thanks for your interest. Cheers, Sylvia ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:17:14 -0800 Subject: [Baren 5133] tools Hi Pete. If you can go for the best.....they will last you a life time. If you are going to be around this Hanga printmaking for any length of time, you will be rewarded with the good tools. It makes the process of doing the job so much easier. If you want to know the cost of the best (5 people who took the workshop with me will attest to this) you can find the information and prices (Canadian) at http://www.members.home.net/gscholes/Materials.html I will send you the US prices if you want to go that way. I will also recommend the basic needs. I have non professional Japanese tools that is another option. I do know they do not hold an edge and this is 90% important with any tool. Graham PS For your edification ... Noboru Sawai is my teacher who is retired from doing this now. I am carrying on in a small way an as he has the contacts in Japan for the equipment. I have the stuff available for workshops. I do not mark up the prices selling it at the same price as Noboru. ------------------------------ From: Bea Gold Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:34:46 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5134] Re: print-quilt Thanks Sylvia, What kind of ink? Black or colors? Abstract or realistic impressions? Human, animal or veg? Or? Sounds like wonderful fun. Bea ------------------------------ From: Pedrobot@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:41:50 EDT Subject: [Baren 5135] Re: tools (Thank you for all of the responces, everyone.) Okay, consider me convinced. If you could please send some more specific recommendations as to size etc. and the US prices, I would be much obliged. At this point I can only afford one or two new tools, but I am more than willing to make in investment and continue to add to my set as my personal funds increase. I will also probably need to get some paper (assuming the magic paper fairy doesn't wave her wand and make some appear in my living room). I saw some "student-quality" paper listed on the website- I assume that this would be a good choice? Also, to keep up my reputation is the new guy- Could somebody elaborate on the term "Hanga"? That's not one that I am familiar with. Thanks again. - --Pete ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Baren 5136] Paper Questions April asked....... >Is this similar to the double weight hosho that Elaine/McClain's calls >"Kizuki hanga" and you have called "kizuki hosho"? I see it is only about >half the size of that paper, though. Thinking that there may be questions re the weight of this paper I explained it by the following statement. ************* 175 gsm weight BFK rives paper is about equal in weight to 8 momme with a micrometer reading of .010 to .011 thickness. The 6 momme paper mic's at .008 to .009 thickness. ************* This is a "Kizuki hanga" as McClain's however since they state a 135 grams which is about the same as the 6 momme. I thought the micrometer readings was a sure way of illustrating the thickness weight. I was concerned that people get good value and the best deal. If someone can airmail me a sample of McClain's then all doubt would be removed. >>Is it surface sized? and what does it feel like? Is it that beautiful >>smooth Yamaguchi paper I've seen somewhere before? Is the 8 monne >>'better' than the 6 monne? The surface is sized and it is natural colour Kozo fibre. The governing factor with weight, is the bigger the print, the easy it is to handle a paper with more body to it. So 8 monne becomes preferable. Print ability is better better. Think of your customers..... weight of paper can influence the collector. >>All these questions, but I think I'd like to order some, 50 or 100 sheets. >>I assume this is a good price? I worked out the price and mine is cheaper than McClain's My figures indicate that the same size paper (if available at McClain's) would be $16.81 If you all have any more questions please contact. Graham ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Baren 5137] Re: Baren Digest #645/Resingrave Lezle, Just returned from visiting your web site, wonderful work, love your animals pics, can't quite decide on my favorite, you have a great eye for composition & balance, your animals have a very calm peaceful-innocent look, your art clearly reflects your support & love for the animals & the different groups you support... All the best.... Julio ------------------------------ From: Bella1yopp@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:16:56 EDT Subject: [Baren 5138] Re: New Guy Pete, Hi. I am also very new to the group and even though I am not a student anymore (going on year #2 out of school) I still have a student budget. My best tools are from McClain's. I bought 3 Japanese tools from them a few years ago (I doubt the professional kind) and was so happy with the ones I purchased. They keep their edge and do not need to be sharpened constantly. I rarely use my student grade tools. And they don't butcher the wood. I don't know the sizes but in the McClain's catalog the different sizes are visually shown to you. You need to consider how thick the wood is that you are using. I bought a V-gauge that was too large for me. I also use birch plywood. Recently I have started using the much thicker birch plywood. But in school I used 1/8 birch plywood (I used both sides!) and it worked very well for me. Not the cheapest but not expensive either. About paper-- Experiment with different types of paper. Try the cheap ones and the expensive ones. Do you hand print or use a press? For press printing, I love Somerset paper. For hand printing... what ever I can get to work (the smoother the surface, the better for me). I have to go. Welcome to the group. Great website. - -Amanda Yopp ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:04:31 -0800 Subject: [Baren 5139] Re: tools Pete, To help you with the right choice of tools I have added a page to my site that details the tools and I have given them a priority list to best guide you to the immediate must haves..... Go to http://www.members.home.net/gscholes/us-materials.html As far as paper goes....I suggest Shin Torinoko. I am sure you will be able to find this locally. If not put the question on the Baren server...you will get an answer. The term "Hanga"is the Japanese word for Woodblock printmaking If you want to know the meaning of our terms go to: http://www.woodblock.com/encyclopedia/topics/010/010_frame.html Dave has a dictionary and you can even hear the pronunciation ..... To much eh. Hope this helps. Regards, Graham ------------------------------ From: Gayle Wohlken Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 23:53:09 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5140] Re: Baren Digest V8 #647 Welcome Pete White. I took a look at your website and like Batman, Wine Tasting, and the Luau. It looks like you have a nice loose, free style. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/5426/prints.html Gayle Wohlken ------------------------------ From: John Ryrie Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 20:39:05 +1000 Subject: [Baren 5141] Re: New Guy Hi Pete and welcome I liked the work and the self portrait unpoetically. If you are looking for western stile tool as opposed to Japanese. There are many good brands available Pfeil, Hirsch, Lawrence or Dastra. However I have got most of my best tools from antique shops. English tools from about pre 1950 are better than any new tools that I've used. Taylor, Ward, or Ades are the names to look out for. I can usually get them, even at an up-market antique shop four 1/3 of the cost of a new tool. about $15.00 Australian. I don't Know if the same applys there. John Ryrie ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V8 #648 ***************************