[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Monday, 30 August 1999 Volume 08 : Number 683 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:34:19 EDT Subject: [Baren 5497] collaboration, etc Maria, how generous of you to offer to put people up! I love all these ideas that are flying around - I think the haikus and prints are an interesting idea - Dave - I wanted to thank you for the encyclopedia entries on bokashi - I incorporated some of these ideas which I hadn't used before (the block w/the rag being one of them) and it worked like a charm on my latest print. Also, for those interested in checking out some different Japanese papers, I recently bought some papers from Hiromi Paper (website http://www.hiromipaper.com) and did some test prints on one of the papers w/very good results - it's a small shop like McClain's and the woman who runs it is very nice & helpful if you need advice on which papers would suit your needs best. They have a lovely catalog which costs $2 but it is worth it, it's printed on lovely paper and has quite a large list of papers! best wishes to all, Sarah ------------------------------ From: "Andy English" Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:42:10 +0100 Subject: [Baren 5498] Re: collaborative book I love this idea. > i also really like the idea of a collaborative book. i agree with john that > the paper used should be the same throughout the book. However, I don't feel that paper uniformity is essential. Some of my favourite books use a variety of paper. The differences in look, feel, texture as one turns the pages is as refreshing as the new content. Andy ------------------------------ From: Gayle Wohlken Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:03:42 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5499] Re: Baren Digest V8 #682 I like all the collaborative ideas. The haiku idea of Jeanne's is particularly nice because the poetry is somewhat easy to do and I believe everyone could come up with one. It would be nice to even have a theme. Jim was just up here listening to me read the baren aloud and he said, "wouldn't it be a great idea for artists to do a print of their "sacred places", be it a place outdoors, a room, an altar they've created, whatever gets them in that space." That could be a nice theme then for the haiku, for it would give us a peek at each artist's place of transcendence. Gayle ------------------------------ From: Elizabeth Atwood Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:42:39 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5500] Re: Baren Digest V8 #681 Dave.......to second Gayle concern about exchange #4 deadline. My studio work tends to come to a halt about the middle of November. A first of January deadline would run into all of the heavy Christmas mailings here in the states....as we would have to mail in the later part of Decmber. Such complications! ElizA ------------------------------ From: Laohuxu@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:00:22 EDT Subject: [Baren 5501] Re: books First of all, thanks to everyone for the warm welcome to the list! A book of haiku sounds wonderful for an Exchange. Jeanne, you're brilliant! If everyone could agree on a paper size, and perhaps an extra wide margin on edge side for binding, it would not be hard for each person to bind their own collection with a Japanese stab binding--or maybe even make it a round robin, with each person then sending their bound copy on to another person in the ring? Liz Horton P.S. I also love Gayle's idea of the "sacred places" theme--it's narrow enough to "theme" the book but broad enough that each person can take it in their own personal direction. ------------------------------ From: Gregory Robison Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:20:03 +0300 Subject: [Baren 5502] Re: 2000 in Las Vegas Barbara Mason wrote: > This is an idea that I like, we will all go down to Maria's and do the > collaboration together. OK, Barbara, we'll go. I'll agree not to navigate if you agree not to drive. Greg Who Has Both Exprience And Self-Knowledge ------------------------------ From: Ruth Leaf Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:53:29 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5503] Re: Baren Digest V8 #682 Maria have you ever thought of using your ability with websites to add a backup if necessary to your art plunge. I know artists would be pleased to pay you for designing a website for them and it's art related. I made a very nice living from the the 60's to the 90's teaching printmaking and selling prints. For me it was very fortunate that it worked since I have no other means of making money. I wish you the best..Ruth http://www.ecom.net/`leafr ------------------------------ From: Maria Arango Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:05:03 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5504] Coordinator for #4 Just to let everyone know that I won the price for being the coordinator for Exchange #4. A tiny announcement, then I will start e-mailing the Valiant Exchangers off the main list. Also don't forget to look at Exchange #4 page on Dave's site for updates, right now it looks good to me. If Daryl DePry is "listening", please send me your e-mail address so that I can include you in the updates. Otherwise, we will have to go with an alternate. Thanks! My white gloves are ready. Maria ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:30:30 +0000 Subject: [Baren 5505] Re: collaboration, etc > http://www.hiromipaper.com Thanks very much for this information. They do indeed have a large list of papers, and a lot of information. I was not patient enough to wait for their catalog, so I am printing it all out now! Jack ------------------------------ From: Wanda Robertson Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:27:32 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5507] 2nd Hanga Just posted this URL to BA5 - so am really brave now and am posting it here, too. The print is on shin torinoko paper and the image is about 6x8 inches. Let me know what you think. http://web-ster.com/robertson/foxglove Wanda ------------------------------ From: Maria Arango Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:20:33 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5509] Online info (and a garden) 117 degrees today so I stayed inside, which means I printed Exchange #3 states and updated my website. Of interest to the list, for those who have been asking about getting your own site or otherwise showing us and the world your work, check out the link Artists Get Online from the index page. An additional URL which reflects more what I want to do with the site: http://www.printmakingstudio.com (other URL still works) Of no interest to woodblock lovers, click on Meet the Artist, then click on the pictures of the garden to see more flowery stuff. Enjoy! Health to all, Maria ------------------------------ From: Gary Luedtke Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:43:53 -0400 Subject: [Baren 5510] 2nd Hanga Wanda, Just saw your "Foxglove" print. Very nice! Nice coloring, keyblock outline, and bokashi. Nice handling of the elongated design, maintaining nice rhythm and balance. Good work. I like it very much. Gary ------------------------------ From: Vollmer/Yamaguchi Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 5511] Salud, dinero, y amor Anybody who invites me somewhere for a printing project has my vote! I love Maria's idea of getting together to work on a collaboration. I would love an opportunity to work with other printmakers. Is there a favorite Japanese poet we could illustrate? Maybe something like that would provide a unifying theme. If we only had three days (don't forget time for hiking) we'd need a lot prepared in advance. It would require a lot of planning. Salud, dinero, y amor, indeed!!! April Vollmer ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:15:33 +0000 Subject: [Baren 5512] Re: 2nd Hanga Wanda, Very nice line quality in the key block! Well designed and printed. Jack ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:46:41 -0500 Subject: [Baren 5513] Re: book ideas a plus I am also in favor of pursuing some form of "book" collaboration. Lots of good ideas by all. Perhaps Dave or someone with book creation experience can suggest a theme (how about a book about us ? Baren! how we came about, what we are doing, and where we see Baren going in the future!) if it's something new...or pick something old to illustrate. We then would each be resposible for a page. Perhaps the limit of 30 could be enlarged to 40 -50 to allow more participants and a more comprehensive story line. I also like the idea about poems & Haiku.... I have here a copy of Lynd Ward's "Wild Pilgrimage" (1932) and also Wards' "Storyteller Without Words, The wood Engravings of Lynd Ward" and all this recent talk about bookmaking made me give them another going over. So much strength in those engravings ! The use of black for the main storyline and then changing to "red" ink to lead the reader inside the main character's mind is a powerful technique. Thanks....Julio ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:01:38 -0500 Subject: [Baren 5515] Re: another book by Michener I almost forgot. Another book I just finished looking over is "Hokusai Sketch-Books" by the famous James A. Michener. It is full of little drawings by the famous japanese printmaker. I guess this was/is a very popular book when it first came out because of the many reprints since the 1800's. The figures of animals, plants, people and everyday situations are really quite enjoyable. This version has 187 plates (each containing dozens of figures) and I believe that is only a small portion of the original "Hokusai Manga". Well worth a look if you are into everyday sketching and like to do preparatory drawings before a print (who does not ?). Thanks... Julio ------------------------------ From: "Gregory D. Valentine" Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 5516] book collaboration Just a thought-- if prints were done on reasonably thin paper, they could be tipped into an already assembled and printed book, of slightly larger size. But personally, I would like to think about incorporating the text into the image, somehow. Which I think indicates fewer words, and maybe not letterpress. Perhaps calligraphy, such as was part of Haydee Landing's X2 print. --GValentine ------------------------------ From: "Gregory D. Valentine" Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baren 5517] Hokusai's manga Julio-- The old man mad about drawing, said to have the fastest eyes, thought at seventy three he was beginning to understand, by ninety he would, and by one hundred and ten he'd have it down. And what a sense of humor! There is one drawing of a man holding up a magnifying glass, the face of the geisha opposite him distorted, just a little sketch. I love his people; he draws everything with such heart. ------------------------------ From: John Ryrie Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:59:07 +1000 Subject: [Baren 5519] Re: Hokusi Dear Julio I have an original book of Hokusi's Manga, I got it in a second hand book shop in Melbourne for $12 It was printed in 1816 so I think it must be a first edition. It has some wonderful drawings of elephants and two pages of foxes dressed up as people amongst other amazing images. It haze been a constant source of inspiration. Wanda I didn't win a prize at the exhibition, It was good to be chosen as printmakers don't usually get in wen they are up against painters and sculptors. John Ryrie ------------------------------ From: "Michelle D. Hudson" Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 5521] Foxfire (from Ray H in Vermont) Wanda, I loved the gentle curve at the top of Foxglove and how it leads into the complex web of leaves. Nice touch, also, having just one blossom open to us, speaking. The borders, top and sides, distract me a bit, box in the flower--perhaps if they were thinner or printed lighter? Wonderful print! Ray Hudson ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V8 #683 ***************************