[Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Baren Digest Wednesday, 15 September 1999 Volume 08 : Number 707 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Scholes Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:43:26 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5847] Re: Baren Digest V8 #705 Hi Marco You are looking for a top quality Marine varnish. I know it as Spar Varnish but it may go by a different name there. Did the customs explain why they took the varnish away from you??? You will require four 4000 grit Water Slips that are sold in 4 different configurations or shapes. Go to my page for detail and pictures of these stones. http://www.members.home.net/gscholes/Sharpen.html I'm sure a specialty tool shop or woodworking retail shop has them or can tell you where to get them. Failing that I believe Lee Valley in Vancouver can sent them. Let me know how you make out. Have you be back to Italy yet? and did you enjoy? Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:56:05 -0700 Subject: [Baren 5848] Re: Julio's long reply.... >This forum is for all type of woodblock printing not just about printing >in the >japanese style, nor only for people using hosho paper. There are alternatives. Exactly....nobody that I can recall said there is only one way. We have given you the information re the best Hanga method, tools and paper. Do with it as you choose. Graham ------------------------------ From: David Bull Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:25:37 +0900 Subject: [Baren 5852] Re: Shows and announcements ... judy mensch wrote: > Horacio: I like your suggestion of putting the postcard on the web page. > I'll be sending some cards to Dave-maybe he likes the idea too? I think that what Horacio meant Judy, was to put your info on the Message Board. This you can do yourself - head over to the main web site at: http://woodblock.com ... access the Message Board, then click on the link that lets you add a message. Those of you who haven't visited the Board recently should hop over there and take a look. People are starting to figure out how to use it (tables ... coloured backgrounds ... links ... graphics ... etc.). I think that it has the potential to become a very useful resouce for [Baren] members, once it gets going. Dave ------------------------------ From: Sherpsm@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:20:02 EDT Subject: [Baren 5853] Re: Julio's long reply.... >And a Picasso or a Miro is still a work of art even if printed on a paper >napkin" Sorry I do not agree - they were not gods of art and all of there pieces were not great art. Joe ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:28:59 -0500 Subject: [Baren 5854] Re: Picasso's.... >Sorry I do not agree - they were not gods of art and all of there pieces were >not great art. Perhaps Joe, but I should would like to have at least one of those non-great art pieces hanging on my living room! Julio ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:15:54 -0500 Subject: [Baren 5855] re: resingrave Hi Maria A.....just came back from dropping in your web site. Nice work there.....I liked your section for guests artists......is there a waiting line ? How do we apply ?... For those that have not visited the MARANGO gallery is really worth your time, nicely organized & some great guest pieces by Bareners Kim, Georga & Amanda. You can also get a peek at old Ray Esposito's place. I noticed your new heading under engravings and saw your "100 Miles". What is this resingrave ? Is it organic or a linoleum like material ? You got a great deal of detail there.....how is the cost ? is it expensive ? It seems to suit your style well, I liked the print very much. Julio ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:35:01 +0000 Subject: [Baren 5857] Re: Julio's long reply.... Julio, I'm sorry if I mis-read the intentions of your original posting. I do agree that there is plenty of room for all kinds of materials and tools in printmaking, there are whole other traditions of printing to explore, and plenty of room for everyone to make up their own new traditions. I guess it was your statements like "By today standards the truth of the matter is that the methods were most primitive." in reference to traditional hanga techniques that threw me off. When I consider a technology that developed a tool like the baren, constructed of the exacting products of very specific parts, including a special paper, a waterproofing extract of a specific persimmon, a waterproof paste from a specific part of a specific fern, parts from two different specific bamboo species, and the whole very complicated technologies of silk and lacquer, all very expertly crafted into a tool that has not yet been improved upon for it's task, I cannot consider it primitive. As I mentioned before, I find it unfortunate when the technologies of other peoples and other times are labeled "primitive." Perhaps you mis-spoke, or I did mis-understood your meaning. I also did not understand why, on a forum dedicated at least in part to the discussion of woodblock printing technologies it appeared that you were disappointed with the discussion of details of one of those technologies. While I don't plan on doing any press printing, I file that information away just in case, I never know what details I might find useful in the future. Again, I agree with you that there is plenty of room for all kinds of ideas in printmaking and art, and on this forum, and that include presses and barens and napkins and sharkskins and, apparently even cars. Jack ------------------------------ From: John Ryrie Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:39:45 +1000 Subject: [Baren 5859] Re: Julio's long reply.... Just a question about these collectors who only collect prints that are printed on a certain type of paper. Some time ago I went to the print room in the National Gallery of Victoria to look at some of Hokusai's prints from the thirty-six Views of Mt Fuji. Wonder full as these prints are the paper that they were printed on had become brittle and yellow. Would such a collector avoid a grate print like this? John Ryrie ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V8 #707 ***************************