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Baren Digest              Tuesday, 5 October 1999      Volume 09 : Number 730

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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:45:18 -0700
Subject: [Baren 6107] Re: museums ... 

>The growing trend is for the _museums_ to reproduce their treasures and
>sell them as greeting cards, or calendars, or stationery, and they probably
>don't want you horning in on their business, Dave.  

Case in point - I have a copy of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston, 1981
calendar titled "The Art of Utamaro" that has 48 reproductions of his work.
So not such a new trend. Bea

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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 99 22:04:30 -0000
Subject: [Baren 6108] Re: Baren Digest V9 #728 

Re: new book ...Relief Printmaking
I found nothing on the Lark book pages to indicate that the above book 
was calling for submissions...am I right? Not even a copyright 
disclaimer.  There was one on Ceramic Sculptural pieces which I have 
passed on to a good friend. But, I must confess, that I have now sent 
over a submission to their request for gallery pieces..and will keep my 
fingers crossed that all goes well.

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Philip
Thank you for your information on the ART$INFO site.  It is very 
comprehensive and I have several friends in my printmaking circles who 
would be interested in accessing that site, too thank you.

I actually work with a Philip Smith

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Josephine
At times Perth is isolated, but not because of communication links, only 
when we think of travelling.  Even a plane ticket to Broome in the north 
of the state costs more than $600A, that is why forums like Baren are so 
encouraging.

Submissions for The Australian Cultural Expo to be held in Sydney next 
year close on 15th October 1999.  So many things on for us next year that 
it looks as if it could be an exciting year... I will be at the Olympics 
with my daughter who competed in Barcelona in Artistic Gymnastics.. She 
is of course retired now and finishing her 5th year of Medicine. I 
usually head for the Galleries when I travel to the East Coast..it is my 
best opportunity to soak in some culture!

Cheers, Jan

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:20:14 -0500
Subject: [Baren 6109] re: Graham's Picasso 

Friday night our PBS channel had a film on Picasso; "Picasso paints Picasso" (or
something like that!). It reflected on his long career and it's theme was on how
Picasso modeled and used as source of inspiration his wifes & lovers, his father
and above all himself on many of his works. It gave me some ideas for our
exchange #4 print (self-portrait).

A sad note were his last years as a recluse an a workaholic.....the film eluded
to his last wife keeping his children and visitors away while he concentrated on
just dishing out the work......the price of fame....

Have not seen any postings from Graham lately......wondering if Marnie has
locked him in the studio and thrown away the key...........

Julio

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:35:28 -0500
Subject: [Baren 6110] re: Surimono print 

Hi Dave, just finished taking a look at your latest Surimono print by Zeshin.
WoW! Nineteen impressions....200 prints....I don't think I need Maria's help for
this one....that's at least 3800 times you had to put the baren to the paper.
Right ?

Something about this print seems cold and distant....maybe because there are no
people in it...or maybe because you.......

Julio

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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:36:10 -1000
Subject: [Baren 6112] Re: Surimono print 

Julio wrote:
> Something about this print seems cold and distant....maybe because there are no
> people in it...

This print is from the the frontispiece of a book on the anniversary of the death
of the poet Kagetsu, as Dave mentioned, and what you see as coldness is supposed to
be, I think, emptiness or loss, it's a portrait of the poet no longer there.

Jack

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 04:22:59 +0900
Subject: [Baren 6113] 

Julio,
There is a warehouse in Hunters Point Shipyard in San Francisco, where a
fellow keeps hundreds of used cases of lead type.  I bought a beautiful old
case that had come around the horn for $50, full of type.  But most of them
are metal cases, standard size--called a California Job Case.  So if you are
ever in this area, let me know and we can go out there and browse on a
weekend.

Jean Eger
http://users.lanminds.com/~jeaneger

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From: severn@acay.com.au
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:03:08 +1000
Subject: [Baren 6114] Replies 

John

Ray Arnold tonight at Australian Galleries. Tell him he has a fan...
sigh .. one day I'll meet him
Masters degree, hope there's a spell checker on the thesis ;-) I just
looked at your prints, I liked, I attached one to an e-mail to the
husband so he can see too. He's an IT person so the last thing he wants
to do at night is look at a PC screen..

I've been using VAnSon inks all year. They are very good. I only use
vegy oil for clean up these days (mine is a turps free studio). VanSon
is a rubber based ink which is why it never skins, I find that this
makes it a bit harder to clean up but the extra effort is worth it. I
have an address for a supplier in Sydney.

Jan

My husband and I are planning to _run away_ when the Olympics is on, if
we can. But if we cant I'm only an hour from the centre of Sydney by
Train so we might be able to meet up. 
I've contacted the Cultural Expo people already - more later.

Julio

Picasso was a mysogynist and an opportunist. He spent his life bludging
(sponging)off his women, and he changed them when they started to wear
out, not a nice man, like many 'masters'. Pity we dont have more
'mistresses' really.

News

I've just joined a new artists co-operative on the Hawkesbury river
(between me and Sydney) and the inaugural show is being hung on Saturday
at Brooklyn. I havent seen anyone else's work yet but they are mostly
painters.

I'm going to Canberra next week so will be offline, I guess the mailbox
will be overflowing when I get back.

Regards Josephine

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Baren 6115] Re: Replies 

Josephine:

Many times we just look at an artist's work and  forget the personalities behind
the art. What you say of Picasso is probably also true of many other artists
(and other famous people) thru the history of Art. Lots of bad apples out there.

I could use some tips on the use of ink cleanup via veggy-oil as per the
Van-Sons inks. I would rather stay away from the harsh chemicals.

Jean:

Thanks for the invitation. In thirty-one years I have lived in this country I
have never been west of the Mississippi (well, once when my wife was ill and we
flew into Rochester, Minn.). After H.S. me and a friend were going to go west
and canoe thru the northwest...did not happen.  Maybe one of these days.....I
have relatives in Vegas which is just next door to California....
Have you used the type you bought in any of your prints ?

Still no word from Graham.........uhmmmmm?

Julio

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:52:44 -0500
Subject: [Baren 6116] re:Surimono 

Jack writes:
>This print is from the the frontispiece of a book on the anniversary of the
>death of the poet Kagetsu

I see your point Jack.....but there is something else here...maybe is the dark
silhouette of the poet...but there is just an icy feeling to this print....maybe 
is the view out the window....like if you were high up on a
mountain.....and the doors wide open with the cold freezing wind rushing in and
flipping the pages of the books on the floor.....I am freezing up just thinking about it!

Julio

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:56:11 -0700
Subject: [Baren 6118] Re: Replies 

>Still no word from Graham.........uhmmmmm?

It is a very busy time just now.  I posted a rambling statement a week ago
about the job list.
Just finished a new compost box today.  To morrow.....bring in the winter
wood.......more like 3 days for that job.

Graham

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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:18:49 +0900
Subject: [Baren 6120] So long ... 

Couple of interesting new web sites popped up this week:

The International Fine Print Dealers Association now has a site,
including lists of dealers dealing in ... prints, of course.  They are
also announcing a print 'show' in New York for early November:

International Fine Print Dealers Association
9th Annual Print Fair
Park Avenue Armory
Park Avenue at 67th Street
New York, NY

NOVEMBER 4 - 7 
Noon - 7 (last day till 6)
Daily Admission: $12
88 exhibitors: Old Master to Contemporary 
info: (212) 759-4469 

http://www.printdealers.com/html/home.html

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Not directly related to woodblock printmaking, but I think of interest
to many of our members, is a new site on Suminagashi - The Ancient Art
of Japanese Marbling, at:

http://www.suminagashi.com/

Their links list should keep you busy for days ...

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Re: Eric Gill's woodcuts, which Julio and others were discussing
recently.

Abbot & Holder in London have some inexpensive 'restrikes' of his prints
for sale.  Check the page at:
http://www.abbottandholder.co.uk/Aah328e.htm

... for details.  There are also some woodcuts by Seaby and Thorpe ...

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Julio wrote, re my newest print:
> Something about this print seems cold and distant....maybe because 
> there are no people in it...

The mood I think, as Jack mentioned, is presumably to try and give a
feeling of 'the man who is no longer there ...'.  

Shortly after posting the image on my site, I received an email from a
[Baren] member who found it interesting that the silhouette on the
scroll looked very much like ...   But no, I won't tell you the name
that he mentioned!  You'll have to decide for yourself ...

http://woodblock.com/surimono/1999/1-6/display_print_1-6.html

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Not that it makes any difference to the forum (!), but I'm off now for
ten days, so there will be no web site updating (archives, etc.) during
that time.

Maybe I'll get a chance to 'drop in' on [Baren] while I'm over at Matt's
place, and maybe after Friday morning's little get together, we might
find a way to put a few photos up on the Message Board ...

Talk later ...

Dave

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From: ewa <ewa@gis.net>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 06:30:57 +0000
Subject: [Baren 6121] Re: Ken Tyler  

Julio,
There is an out of print book for  which Amazon can do a search:
Ken Tyler : Master Printer, and the American Printmaking
                           Renaissance 
                           by Pat Gilmour 

I found it at my local library.

Edo

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