Delivery-Agent: @(#)$Id: local.c,v 1.54 1998/10/30 06:30:53 akira1 Exp $ on dora Received: by j.xx.or.jp (ATSON-1) ; 24 Feb 2000 22:03:09 +0900 Return-Path: Received: from lancer.xx.or.jp (lancer.xx.or.jp [202.224.39.3]) by trantula.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with ESMTP id WAA22726 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:03:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from ml.xx.or.jp (ml.xx.or.jp [202.224.39.111]) by lancer.xx.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E770648C3 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:03:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by ml.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with SMTP id WAA33682; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:00:13 +0900 Received: by ml.xx.or.jp; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:00:13 +0900 Received: (from ml@localhost) by ml.xx.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id WAA41862 for baren-digest-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:00:12 +0900 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:00:12 +0900 Message-Id: <200002241300.WAA41862@ml.xx.or.jp> From: owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp Subject: Baren Digest V10 #916 Reply-To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp Errors-To: owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp Precedence: bulk [Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking. Sender: owner-baren-digest@ml.xx.or.jp X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Baren Digest Thursday, 24 February 2000 Volume 10 : Number 916 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dutch Stowe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:10:56 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8561] Checking out your web page Could people try out my webpages link and let me know who can and cannot access it? I don't know why Julio can't get there. I checked it out and was able to access each and every page. The pictures went to larger versions and as far as I can tell everything works. I enjoyed seeing your work. Thank You Dutch Stowe North Hollywood Ca. USA ------------------------------ From: BHearn2001@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:11:42 EST Subject: [Baren 8562] Re: Baren Digest V10 #915 Accessing Gail W's webpage. I got there and viewed your woodcuts. They are marvelously rewarding. bhearn ------------------------------ From: Arye Saar Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:07:59 +0200 Subject: [Baren 8563] Re: Checking out your web page Dutch, As much as i want to visit your webpages, i don't know where to look. Will you be so kind and direct me to it? Thanx, Arye ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dutch Stowe wrote: > Could people try out my webpages link and let me know who can and cannot > access it? I don't know why Julio can't get there. > > I checked it out and was able to access each and every page. The pictures > went to larger versions and as far as I can tell everything works. > > I enjoyed seeing your work. > > Thank You > Dutch Stowe > > North Hollywood Ca. USA ------------------------------ From: "Ramsey Household" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:32:09 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8564] Re: Daniel's new print charset="iso-8859-1" Margaret, Did you go to the Universtity of Texas and on to Illinois? Carolyn - ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret M. Szvetecz To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: [Baren 8555] Daniel's new print > Message posted by: Margaret M. Szvetecz > > I am intrigued by your new print and just wanted to share > with you my responses. > > I like the way the image is a close view of a person but not > a traditional portrait, i.e. that oblique look away from the > viewer is intriguing. > > I love the verticals of the chair and those triangular > shapes formed by the arms--the abstraction involved in this > naturalistic image is interesting. I especially love the way > the figure is leaning back but visually pulled forward by > those background verticals and the very shallow space you > have created around the figure. > > I don't mean to sound cold in responding to the formal > elements; I really did appreciate your sharing with us the > subject matter. I think you deserve to be very proud of > this print; I'm only sorry that I don't have a chance to > look at the actual print so I can appreciate more fully the > choices you have made with regard to paper size/image size > and pigment. > > Margaret > > > > > ------------------------------ From: James G Mundie Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:50:06 -0500 Subject: [Baren 8565] scritchety-scratch Gayle wrote: > Wanda, the "needle scratching" is also done with a razor blade. The > needle is used more to do stippling and the razor blade to make a > lot of fine lines. The results are so different from regular cutting and > gouging. It's pretty scarey the first time you pull a print because you > feel there will be nothing to show as a lot of the background ink > (as in intaglio) is there and you are afraid it will obliterate your image. > > One thing I discovered, though, was I couldn't seem to get consistent > results, so five prints would look five different ways--similar but > not the same, and for me this style works better if you only want a > print or two. I can't imagine editioning this way, but then James does it > all the time. Something I'm not doing right, I guess. Let's ask James. There are many different factors which will affect the look of your print after you have scratched the board for texture. To name just a few: the type of wood, the density of the grain, the moisture content of the wood, the degree of scratching, the viscosity of your ink... I have found that if I want the scratching texture to stand out very clearly, I need to use a 'drier' ink -- one which is less likely to ooze down between those delicate lines and 'smear' the effect. However, if there are large areas of flat black that I want to be really dense, I need to use an ink with a tad more oil in it. Catch 22. I most often use pine, which seems to take and hold the scratching very well, but even that can give surprises. Sometimes it will seem like I have scratched the board so much that there couldn't possibly be enough grain there to hold ink. But when I go to take a proof, it looks as if I have hardly done anything... so back in there with a stouter tool and a rougher hand. Poplar has a tendency to 'swallow' the scratching, almost as if the wood swells to heal a wound. The thing about this technique is that one can really only print a few at a time. In the course of a large edition, the ink will in due time begin to build up where it doesn't belong and start to print a little more coarsely. Unlike intaglio where most of the ink is removed from the plate with each print, woodblocks leave behind a great deal of residue. It is best to print maybe four or five, then clean the block, let it rest a bit, then print five more and repeat. Even my editions aren't precisely the same from print to print (but that sort of minor variance is one of the charms of woodblock!). Hey, and let's not forget that each an every block is different and will require slight adjustments to one's approach. Mise le meas, James Mundie, Philadelphia USA http://www.w.com/encyclopedia/entries/015_01/015_01_frame.html http://www.printmakingstudio.com/jimundie/jimundie1.html > ------------------------------ > > From: "Daniel Dew" > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:35:01 -0500 > Subject: [Baren 8548] My newest print > boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3034053301_113711_MIME_Part" > > > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not > understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > - --MS_Mac_OE_3034053301_113711_MIME_Part > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > A huge thank you to Dave, nowhere else could you find a kinder heart > and > such a wonderful moderator and artist!!!! Bravo, wondervar, etc.... > > Dave has graciously posted my newest print at: > http://w.com/forum/members/dew/psalm46_5.jpg > http://w.com/forum/members/dew/psalm46_5_mini.jpg > > Before anyone tears it apart too much, I learned that you CAN do > overkill in > printmaking! > Too many colors and too many impressions can destroy a print. > > I wanted to get some critiques from some of you masters, maybe some > helpful > hints, etc... > I'm still relatively new at all this, I've only been doing relief > prints for > three years now. > > O.K., I've opened myself up, take your best shot! > > P.S. The colors are much more brighter and bolder "in the flesh" so > to > speak. > P.P.S. This is a portrait of my 9 year old austistic daughter. She > is one > of lifes blessings, sometimes though she can be a royal pain in the > #WQ%$%^%^%. > > Dan Dew > USA > - -- > > > - --MS_Mac_OE_3034053301_113711_MIME_Part > Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > > > My newest print > > > A huge thank you to Dave, nowhere else could you find a kinder heart > and su= > ch a wonderful moderator and artist!!!!  Bravo, wondervar, > etc....
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> I wanted to get some critiques from some of you masters, maybe some > helpful= > hints, etc...
> I'm still relatively new at all this, I've only been doing relief > prints fo= > r three years now.
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> O.K., I've opened myself up, take your best shot!
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> P.S. The colors are much more brighter and bolder "in the > flesh" = > so to speak.
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> > > > - --MS_Mac_OE_3034053301_113711_MIME_Part-- > > > ------------------------------ > > From: B Mason > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:00:24 -0800 > Subject: [Baren 8549] New Print > > Dan, > I too am a novice at woodblock, but I think this print is lovely. > Barbara > > ------------------------------ > > From: Marilyn Gordley > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:21:35 -0500 > Subject: [Baren 8550] Re: Baren Digest V10 #913 > > > From: Gayle Wohlken > > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:52:52 -0500 > > Subject: [Baren 8513] Re: Baren Digest V10 #912 > > > > Could people try out my webpages link and let me know who can and > cannot > > access it? I don't know why Julio can't get there. > > > > http://homepage.mac.com/gwohlken/album2.html > > > > Welcome all new members. > > Gayle, > Thanks for the "new members" welcome. I had no difficulty accessing > your site; enjoyed viewing your excellent work. > Marilyn Gordley > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Daniel Dew" > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:06:54 -0500 > Subject: [Baren 8551] Re: Baren Digest V10 #913 > > Gayle, I love it! > There are not many examples of portrait work in woodblock that are > well > crafted, so seeing your prints was a delight and an encouragement. > I love the "feathering" effect you've acheived, how'd you do it? > On the needle print: was everything done with the needle or only > parts of > it? > Do you work with damp paper or dry? > Are your color blocks seperate blocks or reductions? > Have you ever done a reduction block with wood? > What type or kind of ink do you use? > > Sorry for all the questions, but I want to learn, and learn, and > learn,....... > > Dan Dew > USA > - -- > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:23:27 -0500 > Subject: [Baren 8552] Re: New Prints charset="iso-8859-1" > > Josephine > Your new Wildflower print is fantastic. Such detail and it moves in > and ot > of the picture frame so that it totally envolves the viewer. > Great > > I did not view the "Tree" image. Saving it for the real thing!! > > Jeanne N. > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Aqua4tis@aol.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:58:10 EST > Subject: [Baren 8553] Re: My newest print > > In a message dated 02/22/2000 5:32:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, > ddew@tampabay.rr.com writes: > > > http://w.com/forum/members/dew/psalm46_5.jpg > > dan and josephine > both of you take my breath away such wonderful work and so > different > you both give me something to aspire to > georga > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:47:26 -0500 > Subject: [Baren 8554] Re: My newest print charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dan > > Great print. You certainly captured the love that went into this > print!!!! > > Jeanne N. > > > ------------------------------ > > From: baren_member@w.com (Margaret M. Szvetecz) > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:10:17 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [Baren 8555] Daniel's new print > > Message posted by: Margaret M. Szvetecz > > I am intrigued by your new print and just wanted to share > with you my responses. > > I like the way the image is a close view of a person but not > a traditional portrait, i.e. that oblique look away from the > viewer is intriguing. > > I love the verticals of the chair and those triangular > shapes formed by the arms--the abstraction involved in this > naturalistic image is interesting. I especially love the way > the figure is leaning back but visually pulled forward by > those background verticals and the very shallow space you > have created around the figure. > > I don't mean to sound cold in responding to the formal > elements; I really did appreciate your sharing with us the > subject matter. I think you deserve to be very proud of > this print; I'm only sorry that I don't have a chance to > look at the actual print so I can appreciate more fully the > choices you have made with regard to paper size/image size > and pigment. > > Margaret > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Studio Dalwood > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:06:33 +1100 > Subject: [Baren 8556] Sacred Tree Exchange > > Hi All > > Just doing housekeeping here. > > I have an embarassing problem. (no puns please) Checking through the > exchange details I discovered that I have lost an important mail. A > few > weeks ago I received a request for entry into the sacred tree list > which > I put on a waiting list of one person. Now I have a space and can't > find > the mail which I know I carefully filed in that 'safe place' where > things always get lost. Nor can i find a copy of my reply. I know I > wasnt dreaming. Please waiting person, can you resend the mail? > > While i am here for the six or so people who are not on the mailing > list, some info. > > Theme, sacred tree. Papersize 11 x 15ins. Closing date 1st August > 2000. > Co-ordinator to be advised soon. Number of prints 36. > > You can join the list at > http://www.onelist.com/members/PrintAustralia > > Thanks > Josephine > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Daniel Dew" > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:21:55 -0500 > Subject: [Baren 8557] Re: Daniel's new print > > - -- > > > Message posted by: Margaret M. Szvetecz > > > I like the way the image is a close view of a person but not > > a traditional portrait, i.e. that oblique look away from the > > viewer is intriguing. > > Most autistic people never look you in the eye, but almost always > look off > one or the other shoulder. It is intriguing, wish I could claim it > was > intentional. > > > > I love the verticals of the chair and those triangular > > shapes formed by the arms--the abstraction involved in this > > naturalistic image is interesting. I especially love the way > > the figure is leaning back but visually pulled forward by > > those background verticals and the very shallow space you > > have created around the figure. > > She was lying in a hammock. I almost always work from my own photos > or > memory. This one was from a photo I took. Love taking pictures of > my kids! > > > > > I'm only sorry that I don't have a chance to > > look at the actual print so I can appreciate more fully the > > choices you have made with regard to paper size/image size > > and pigment. > > Image size was 8" x 10". Paper size was 11" x 16". Ink was > Speedball water > based with some extender thrown in at times. By my count, 12 > different > colors/impressions were printed. Sucker is thick. Printed on MASA > paper. > > I'm so grateful Dave scanned it and all, I'm afraid to ask if he > could pull > more color out of it though. It came out very pale. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:27:09 -0600 > Subject: [Baren 8558] Important Skokie exhibit announcement > > A handful of emails have come in this past week or so from people > who were not > sure about > what's going on with the exhibit, money contributions, which of > their prints are > going to be on display > etc., etc. A few just had fallen behind with the large volume of > daily postings > and had lost the original info. So > from now on I will subject any pertinent info on the exhibit with > the above > subject. I know it's hard to keep up > even for those of us getting the digest. > > Thanks to all the twenty-seven people who sent in money to help with > the > expenses. With close to 100 > prints and 70 artists being represented in this Baren exhibition you > can imagine > the expenses involved. > Your checks were deposited today and should clear your banks in a > day or so. > The first shipment of > frames arrived last friday (56 frames 16 X 20") and the rest (50 > frames 11 X > 14") will come in this week. > Your generous contributions will be used to help pay for the frames > who will > then become "Baren" property > to be used by other contributing members to mount their own "Baren" > shows. You > can expect to receive from > me a "care" package sometime in late March with misc. stuff > (announcement cards, > media clippings, anything I can > stuff in an envelope....perhaps photos & video after the show > opens). > > Thank you also to those others who contacted me privately and made > other special > arrangements with me. > If you are one of those in the process of sending something in...I > thank you > also. > > All the corrections to the participants list have been made ( and > new links > added) and I will wait another week before I go to the printers in > case > something new comes up.....have only received about half of the > expected > "details" info about your prints and only a handful of artist's > bios.....whatever I don't have I will pull from Baren or make up as > I see > fit...(Joke!). > > http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/skokie-exhibit.html > > > While I will stick to my original goal of representing each artist > on the list > via one print.....those contributing toward the show's expenses will > have first > crack at exhibiting multiple prints. I think that's fair. > > Thanks...Julio > > Julio Rodriguez > 3801 Dobson > Skokie, Illinois > USA 60076 > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Brian Lockyear > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:43:15 -0800 > Subject: [Baren 8559] Chicago Exhibit & Dragon update > > Hello Julio- > > I'm putting a check in the mail to you tomorrow. I think it was $15 > right? > I'll be out of town for a few days but if that's the wrong amount > I'll > correct it when I return. > > Thanks! > > - Brian - > > ------------------------------ > > From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:10:09 -0600 > Subject: [Baren 8560] New prints... > > Congrats to Josephine and Dan in making those two beautiful & > expressive prints. > The standard of quality in Baren prints just jumped up to a higher > level. > > Thanks for sharing these lovely prints with us...Julio > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Baren Digest V10 #915 > **************************** > ------------------------------ From: Bella1yopp@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:30:34 EST Subject: [Baren 8566] Re: My newest print Dan, What a wonderful print! - -Amanda ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:06:25 -0800 Subject: [Baren 8567] Re: scritchety-scratch charset="iso-8859-1" Jim wrote: >I have found that if I want the scratching texture to stand out very >clearly, I need to use a 'drier' ink -- one which is less likely to ooze >down between those delicate lines and 'smear' the effect. However, if >there are large areas of flat black that I want to be really dense, I >need to use an ink with a tad more oil in it. Catch 22. >I most often use pine, which seems to take and hold the scratching very >well, but even that can give surprises. Sometimes it will seem like I >have scratched the board so much that there couldn't possibly be enough >grain there to hold ink. But when I go to take a proof, it looks as if I >have hardly done anything... I have found this to be true of engravings as well. When working with standard v-gouges and u-gouges and tohs in the woodcut world, what you see is what you get pretty much, as long as you tint your block to see what you are doing. There are still surprises, don't get me wrong, wonderful ones usually. But in engraving, proofing is a must and the ink does build up and obliterates those preciously engraved (or scratched) areas after a few prints. It is easier now to get an even tone with the engravings with the press, but I still have to stiffen the ink with whiting. Another unexpected and wonderful effect happens when working with soft inks and a soft brayer: the engraved lines fill up and print darker than the relief areas. You get the best of both worlds that way. A fine engraved line and the relief in between. This effect is most striking when using very transparent inks, then the contrast between the dark line and the relief area is greater. The relief areas print somewhat blotchy, with more ink on some places than others. But unfortunately I have yet to completely control this process, so sometimes I get a beautiful print with watercolor like washes on the relief areas, and the next print is "caca." (That's a Spanish technical term for doo-doo). Gotta keep on' learning. On an unrelated note, Dan is having trouble accessing the enlargements (you get to them by clicking on any picture) in my website with a Mac. Anyone else have this trouble in the past or present? I just changed hosts and the new one is a true UNIX host, which means all of a sudden capitalization matters! My last host also allowed either .htm or .html extensions, this one cares deeply and will not show some pages. So if you have trouble getting around my site, please report to the exhausted webmaster at your convenience. I think I fixed most links but then again... Health to all, Maria ******************************* Maria Arango, Printmaker Las Vegas Nevada USA http://www.printmakingstudio.com maria@mariarango.com mariten@lvcm.com ****************************** ------------------------------ From: Gayle Wohlken Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:24:08 -0500 Subject: [Baren 8568] Re: Baren Digest V10 #915 Dan, I like your print of your daughter. Pleasing design in this and a capturing subject. You asked about the needle scratching print. I also used a razor blade, and since then have found razor blades to be very sharp and nice for cutting lines, then using gouges and chisels for the rest of the carving. I work with dry paper, kitakata, usually because the color is soft not stark white, and the fact it can be "seen through" on the reverse side during burnishing makes it useful. I have never done a reduction block, so all the colors are separate blocks. I use Daniel Smith oil based relief inks. As for the feathering effect, I'm not sure what you mean, Dan. Within shardow areas, I will use a very tiny tool and just knick the area a lot, which gives a softness to the area instead of stark solid color. Also I burnish some areas lighter than other by using less pressure. That's why I like kitakata paper, I can see what I'm doing and can use more pressure where I want it, and less in other places. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks for asking. Gayle ------------------------------ From: Studio Dalwood Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:56:26 +1100 Subject: [Baren 8569] New Prints Thankyou one and all for your comments on the new prints. I will be doing two editions of the wildflowers. One in b&w on cream as shown, one on good rag paper which I will hand colour. This means an entire edition hand coloured the same for each print. A challenge in itself. best wishes Josephine ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:14:20 -0600 Subject: [Baren 8570] Re: Chicago Exhibit & Dragon update Thanks Brian.....but please don't feel obligated...the contribution is optional, I think you have one print in #4 that will be on display....send me some bio info when you get a chance if you have not already. Thanks...Julio Brian Lockyear on 02/23/2000 12:43:15 AM Please respond to baren@ml.xx.or.jp To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp cc: (bcc: Julio Rodriguez/Corp/Walgreens) Subject: [Baren 8559] Chicago Exhibit & Dragon update Hello Julio- I'm putting a check in the mail to you tomorrow. I think it was $15 right? I'll be out of town for a few days but if that's the wrong amount I'll correct it when I return. Thanks! - Brian - ------------------------------ From: CHRISTY BLANK Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:51:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 8571] hi all I wanted to say hi! I've been very busy lately, hardly time to read my messages!!! (horrors!!) Dan, I love the way you incorporated the bible verse with your daughter for the sacred tree theme and the print is great!! Josephine, I'm so sorry to here about your mother, life's been rough lately, but I've been trying to sent lots of good thoughts to you!!! Your print is great!! and I love your junin print. I there are so many ways to incorporate this theme, now if I could just settle on one!!! Well, the big student show is now matted and hung, the advertisements out, the invitations delivered (mailed), My formal evaluation for teaching is done and I received a perfect score...I need a big drink, and a sketchbook! Then I can finish those blocks... I'm so releaved, I only have to teach, print (play) and kick back until this summer and my trip to Ireland!!!Heh, heh heh!! Glad to be back, Christina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Ittai Altshuler" Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:27:13 +0200 Subject: [Baren 8572] Re: Sacred Tree Exchange charset="iso-8859-8-i" Hello Josephine I amthinking I am the waiting person I am Ittai Altshuler from Isreal ittai_a@zahav.net.il I am also loosing many things during the day, so it is OK. Yet from time to time I am also finding others which are more imortant for the my life itself thank you Ittai - ----- Original Message ----- From: Studio Dalwood To: Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:06 AM Subject: [Baren 8556] Sacred Tree Exchange > Hi All > > Just doing housekeeping here. > > I have an embarassing problem. (no puns please) Checking through the > exchange details I discovered that I have lost an important mail. A few > weeks ago I received a request for entry into the sacred tree list which > I put on a waiting list of one person. Now I have a space and can't find > the mail which I know I carefully filed in that 'safe place' where > things always get lost. Nor can i find a copy of my reply. I know I > wasnt dreaming. Please waiting person, can you resend the mail? > > While i am here for the six or so people who are not on the mailing > list, some info. > > Theme, sacred tree. Papersize 11 x 15ins. Closing date 1st August 2000. > Co-ordinator to be advised soon. Number of prints 36. > > You can join the list at > http://www.onelist.com/members/PrintAustralia > > Thanks > Josephine > ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V10 #916 ****************************