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Baren Digest              Monday, 28 February 2000      Volume 10 : Number 921


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From: BHearn2001@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:06:15 EST
Subject: [Baren 8624] Re: Baren Digest V10 #920 

In a message dated 2/28/00 8:04:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
owner-baren@ml.xx.or.jp writes:

<< maria@mariarango.com >>
Thank you, Maria, for your helpful and rewarding website!!!!!!Barbara Hearn

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From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:06:41 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8625] Re:   Baren Digest V10 #920 charset="iso-8859-1" 

Thanks for your reply.  I didn't send the message at 5:30, Dave.  That's
when it arrived, I think.

I'm thinking about taking April's workshop at Kala when she is out here in
April (ha.ha.), but it's expensive: $175 of student loan money for two long
days of cut! print!

More info April?

Jean Eger



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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:12:15 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8626] Re: Unrelated....but interesting. 

>  >over 3 billion blossoms.  We never did have winter....
>Blossoms of _what_, Graham?    Dandelions?
>Gary

No they don't come on until June....and then only for a week.

In Camelot we have cherry, heather, dafs, tulips, rodos.....well you 
get the idea.

Graham

ps
As I am not a member of After 5 I apologize
for putting this posting here.


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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:14:24 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8627] Re: Unrelated....but interesting. 

>  >over 3 billion blossoms.  We never did have winter....
>Blossoms of _what_, Graham?    Dandelions?
>Gary

Dandelions !  We don't allow those in Camelot,
here we have cherry, heather, dafs, tulips, rodos.....
well you get the idea.

Graham

ps
As I am not a member of After 5 I apologize
for putting this posting here.


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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:28:55 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8628] Re:   Baren Digest V10 #920 

>I'm thinking about taking April's workshop at Kala when she is out here in
>April (ha.ha.), but it's expensive: $175 of student loan money for two long
>days of cut! print!
>
>Jean Eger

Hummmmm.
That works out to be  $656.25 if it was a 7.5 day workshop such as ours.
For the workshop here the fee is 315.00 US$ for 7.5 days.

The total cost here is $630.00 Bed,Breakfast,Lunch and Boot Camp.

One space for a gal available.
Oh and hey, we throw in Dave Bull for free.......


Graham & Marnie



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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:51:21 EST
Subject: [Baren 8629] Re:   Baren Digest V10 #920 

Hi Jean Eger,
I studied with April at the Conn. Graphics Art Center  and can highly 
recommend her.   It was  a wonderful learning experience.
She is very intuitive about how you are working.
Carol
Irvington, NY, USA

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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Baren 8630] Re: Baren Digest V10 #920 

Wanda, we're all pretty busy I think, but I, like you, often wonder if
the council has more fun planning stuff off forum.  Does anybody else
feel a little left out? :-(  

Dan, I print standing and put my whole body into some of the burnishing.
 Since I use oil based ink, it takes a lot of pressure, and sometimes I
have to re-ink the board.  I try to do no more than 10 complete prints a
day (I have to do my color ones completely one print at a time, all
colors.  So by the end of the day I will have10 completely finished
prints.  Then I take a day off to get away from it completely and not
even think about it.  I took this weekend off and now I'm ready to go
down and start the long process.

Gayle

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From: B Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:38:14 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8631] SGC 

Anyone going to Miami is invited to the Baren Breakfast at the Holiday
Inn in Coral Gables, 7-7:30 AM Thursday March 2nd.

I have not been there, but how can you ruin breakfast? So we will take
what is available. At least 3 of us are staying there and breakfast
seems the time not allotted for. If we can get together later, we will.

We will post this at the registration place if there is somewhere to do
so and I will phone Horacio at his hotel when I get to Miami as he is
already in New York.

Looking forward to meeting all of you!

Barbara Mason and Jeanne Chase


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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:53:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8632] Re: Baren Digest V10 #920 

Oh, you must be thinking of that trip to Hawaii the counil is planning.
Or the tea in England? Or the trip to Russia to view the woodblock
printings of Czar Vilhelm the 22nd? LOL! The only posts I've received on
the council (since we sort of ironed out the dates/sizes/theme stuff for
the exchanges) were from Dave experimenting with server stuff!

There's much more interesting stuff on Baren proper (and of course,
BA5!) You will notice there are some very quiet people on the council -
not including me. So, really, postings are preeetttyy slow there. It is
meant more as a problem-solving, decision-making venue than as an
educational or visiting forum. The only difference is the size of the
list - only 5 or 6 people - compared to Baren's 100 or so.

I'm thinking of making one of Maria's famous mushroom barens - has
anyone (besides Maria, of course) made one of those? I'd love to make
one of Michael's too - but I'm still hunting down the materials.

Back to the studio!

Wanda


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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:35:06 -0500
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Re: [Baren 8618] re: sore armsHi there,

    seeing as you work on your feet you might want to rethink your work =
station from the ground up, starting with a good, heavy duty =
anti-fatigue mat, the kind that woodworkers use.  These are to be found =
at shops like Woodcraft or Highland Hardware in Alanta, or industrial =
supply houses. =20

    Secondly,  with your mat in place, measure to the floor from the =
palm of your hand, held parallel to the floor from your side, while =
standing erect, Get someone to measure for you and don't lean!)  This =
will give you the correct height for your standing work station.  You =
might need to take a saw to your bench, but you need your bench to  be =
fitted to your height. Unless you are sharing space with another,  there =
should be no compromise here.

    Last of all , install a rail, shelf (or small foot stool) and use =
it!  Bartenders have kept drinkers standing all day for centuries with =
this small innovation and it works.=20

    good luck, eli griggs

- ---- Original Message -----=20
  From: Graham Scholes=20
  To: baren@ml.xx.or.jp=20
  Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 9:51 PM
  Subject: [Baren 8619] Re: sore arms


  John wrote....


    How high is your work surface? Opinions vary, I've heard heights =
ranging
    from navel level to 3" below for optimum pressure. I also plan =
someday to
    tilt the printing table away from me- maybe worth a try.

    I've also had better luck rubbing in kind of a backwards "Z" pattern
    pushing up and out with my elbow locked.

    Hiroshi Yoshida said:
    "In printing, the baren is pressed with the fatty part of the palm. =
This
    means that the strength for rubbing the baren should come not from =
the hand
    but from the shoulder, the strength of the whole body passing =
through the
    shoulder. Mere manipulation of the hand is not sufficient. "



  Good advise John....
  My posting was just a little foolin' around which I have been known to =
do....
  Mind you I was not foolin' about the blossom count.  Final count just =
in 3.9 Billion.


  If I may suggest....
  Because of my shoulder problem I now stand to print.
  In this position and height of my 36" printing table
  See @  http://members.home.net/woodblocks/Worktables.html
  I can almost straight arm with a straight back to get the  optimum =
pressure with less ware and tear on the old bod.....


  Graham .

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From: "Daniel L. Dew" <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:50:43 -0500
Subject: [Baren 8634] Re: SGC 

it looks as though i will be there also!  something about trying to get me
to be the president of the florida printmakers society.  didn't know where
to stay, but now i know which place will be my first phone call.
will try to make breakfast if at all possible.

dan dew

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>From: B Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
>To: baren <baren@ml.xx.or.jp>
>Subject: [Baren 8631] SGC
>Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2000, 11:38 AM
>

> Anyone going to Miami is invited to the Baren Breakfast at the Holiday
> Inn in Coral Gables, 7-7:30 AM Thursday March 2nd.
>
> I have not been there, but how can you ruin breakfast? So we will take
> what is available. At least 3 of us are staying there and breakfast
> seems the time not allotted for. If we can get together later, we will.
>
> We will post this at the registration place if there is somewhere to do
> so and I will phone Horacio at his hotel when I get to Miami as he is
> already in New York.
>
> Looking forward to meeting all of you!
>
> Barbara Mason and Jeanne Chase
> 

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From: "Daniel L. Dew" <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:59:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 8635] sore arms 

all this response when i was just being a baby, it's very heartwarming.  :-)
Seriously, i print from the kitchen counter, i don't even have a studio.  i
clean up the crumbs and sticky stuff left by my wife and kids, pull out all
my printing stuff from under the bed in the guest room, pull my prints and
stack them to dry on the dining room table, clean it all up in the kitchen
sink  (thank God for those spray thingies), put it all away and enjoy a
drink.

What tore me up saturday was a rainbow roll.  it could go in only one
direction and that's a pain.
i don't use a baren, but the back of a cheap wooden spoon.  sometimes i use
a seam roller i swiped from my wife's wall paper supplies, then burnish with
the spoon.

Maria, i would love to buy one of your barens, bring it with to miami.
should we all wear pink carnations or red bandanas?  i've been studying your
mugs on the website in hopes of seeing someone i know.
well, back to work or scrouge will call my cell phone wondering where i
went.

dan dew
tampa,fl

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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:06:09 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8636] Re: warning, little woodblock related stuff charset="iso-8859-1" 

>Wanda, we're all pretty busy I think, but I, like you, often wonder if
>the council has more fun planning stuff off forum.  Does anybody else
>feel a little left out?

Notin' going on, folks! We were busy trying to figure out the logistics of
the swap shop and exchanges a while back, now we're resting, and printing,
and cutting, not necessarily in that order.

>Anyone going to Miami is invited to the Baren Breakfast at the Holiday
>Inn in Coral Gables, 7-7:30 AM Thursday March 2nd.
>I have not been there, but how can you ruin breakfast?

Put ketchup on eggs, ptweey!

>Oh, you must be thinking of that trip to Hawaii the counil is planning.
>Or the tea in England? Or the trip to Russia to view the woodblock
>printings of Czar Vilhelm the 22nd? LOL! The only posts I've received on
>the council (since we sort of ironed out the dates/sizes/theme stuff for
>the exchanges) were from Dave experimenting with server stuff!

Don't forget the tour of Japanese printmakers and the planting of a cherry
tree forest in Graham's back yard--oops, we haven't told Graham yet?
By the way, Graham, I've been to the Bouchart (sp?) Gardens in the spring in
a past life and it is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. You must be
living in a beautiful world about now.
On the same trip, I got hit on my bike, as you know the road to the gardens
is narrow and a motor home decided to clip my back wheel as they passed me
and sent me flying in what we bike riders call an "endo." Gave me a headache
and a hole in my elbow down to the bone (it's healed now), made the lady in
the motor home pass out watching me bleed, while I was laughing it off. They
patched me up at the gardens and the rest of the trip went over without a
hitch. Wonderful bike trails.
What does this have to do with woodblock printmaking? Hmmmm, let's see, the
imprint on my elbow from the gravel on the road made me instantly fall in
love with printmaking? Oh oh, how about the "relief" that I experienced when
I found out nothing was broken? Oh well, I tried, sorry.

Health to all,
Maria


******************************
Maria Arango, Printmaker
Las Vegas  Nevada  USA
http://www.printmakingstudio.com
maria@mariarango.com
mariten@lvcm.com
******************************


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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:51:40 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8637] The well thought out bench. 

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eli griggs wrote....
>    seeing as you work on your feet you might want to rethink your 
>work station from the ground up, starting with a good, heavy duty 
>anti-fatigue mat, the kind that woodworkers use.  These are to be 
>found at shops like Woodcraft or Highland Hardware in Alanta, or 
>industrial supply houses. 
>
      When I designed this table I took all that you have mentioned 
into consideration.
It is about as close to perfect as one can get.  As far as the anti 
Fatigue mat..... when I put the floor into my studio, it started with 
a concrete slab.  Over that, for insulation and spring I layed 2" 
foam....on that I put down 3/4 Birch plywood.  Nothing is secured to 
the cement.... it sort of floats. When you walk or stand on this base 
I never get tired feet or legs.

>You might need to take a saw to your bench,

If you saw (and I don't mean to be cutting) you would not suggest this.
This is not a run of the mill bench.  You can see the draws..... You 
can't see the castors....8 of them for moving the table to the best 
light position during the day. Taking a saw is certianly out of the 
question and not necessary.

>but you need your bench to  be fitted to your height. Unless you are 
>sharing space with another, there should be no compromise here.

This is my personal studio which comes in two part.  On for 
printmaking  400sq ft.
The other is drawing painting studio which is 900 sq ft.

>    Last of all , install a rail, shelf (or small foot stool) and use 
>it!  Bartenders have kept drinkers standing all day for centuries 
>with this small innovation and it works.

If I did this I might wanta start drinking the pigment !!!!
It does not show well, but a little rise of 3 1/2" was a part of the design....
Yes it is an important feature that was a must when I designed and 
built the unit.


Secondly,  with your mat in place, measure to the floor from the palm 
of your hand, held parallel to the floor from your side, while 
standing erect, Get someone to measure for you and don't lean!)  This 
will give you the correct height for your standing work station.

That would be to high..... Your arm should have a slight angle 
downward with elbow tucked against your side. The other factor that 
you must consider for height is when sitting.  This I can do if a 
small print area is being done.  There is less pressure and sitting 
works good.  Again the height of the stool is critical so the arm is 
slightly downward with the elbow at my side.

Thanks for you interest.

Graham

Are you physio or in the medical related field.
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size="-1">&nbsp;&nbsp; seeing as you work on your feet you might want
to rethink your work station from the ground up, starting with a
good, heavy duty anti-fatigue mat, the kind that woodworkers
use.&nbsp; These are to be found at shops like Woodcraft or Highland
Hardware in Alanta, or industrial supply
houses.&nbsp;</font></blockquote>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="-1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>
When I designed this table I took all that you have mentioned into
consideration.</div>
<div>It is about as close to perfect as one can get.&nbsp; As far as
the anti Fatigue mat..... when I put the floor into my studio, it
started with a concrete slab.&nbsp; Over that, for insulation and
spring I layed 2&quot; foam....on that I put down 3/4 Birch
plywood.&nbsp; Nothing is secured to the cement.... it sort of
floats. When you walk or stand on this base I never get tired feet or
legs. </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="-1"><br></font></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1">You might
need to take a saw to your bench,</font></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you saw (and I don't mean to be cutting) you would not
suggest this.</div>
<div>This is not a run of the mill bench.&nbsp; You can see the
draws..... You can't see the castors....8 of them for moving the
table to the best light position during the day. Taking a saw is
certianly out of the question and not necessary.</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1">but you
need your bench to&nbsp; be fitted to your height. Unless you are
sharing space with another, there should be no compromise
here.</font></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>This is my personal studio which comes in two part.&nbsp; On for
printmaking&nbsp; 400sq ft.</div>
<div>The other is drawing painting studio which is 900 sq ft.</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"
size="-1">&nbsp; Last of all , install a rail, shelf (or small foot
stool) and use it!&nbsp; Bartenders&nbsp;have kept drinkers standing
all day for centuries with this small innovation and it works</font>.
</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>If I did this I might wanta start drinking the pigment !!!!</div>
<div>It does not show well, but a little rise of 3 1/2&quot; was a
part of the design....</div>
<div>Yes it is an important feature that was a must when I designed
and built the unit.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="-1"><br></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="-1">Secondly,&nbsp; with your mat in
place, measure to the floor from the palm of your hand, held parallel
to the floor from your side, while standing erect, Get someone to
measure for you and don't lean!)&nbsp; This will give you the correct
height for your standing work station.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="-1"><br></font></div>
<div>That would be to high..... Your arm should have a slight angle
downward with elbow tucked against your side. The other factor that
you must consider for height is when sitting.&nbsp; This I can do if
a small print area is being done.&nbsp; There is less pressure and
sitting works good.&nbsp; Again the height of the stool is critical
so the arm is slightly downward with the elbow at my side.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks for you interest.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Graham</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Are you physio or in the medical related field.</div>
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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:05:19 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8638] bicycle 

Maria wrote....
>Don't forget the tour of Japanese printmakers and the planting of a cherry
>tree forest in Graham's back yard--oops, we haven't told Graham yet?

I think we will pass on the planting of a cherry tree.   The Damn 
deer have enough to eat.  We have tried all sorts of things to keep 
them away. The best device is a little lead thingie in a long steal 
tube which makes a big BANG.

If a bicycler gets sideswiped by a vehicle here, they can put the 
driver and people that shot deer in Jail.

You could have sued and lived as a well kept printmaker for the rest 
of your days....
Sorry we treated you so badly.

Graham

Yes the Bouchard Gardens are lovely.
I do not go often because it is terribly pricey.
I have other place that have more natural gardens and cost 3 bucks or are free.



>By the way, Graham, I've been to the Bouchart (sp?) Gardens in the spring in
>a past life and it is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. You must be
>living in a beautiful world about now.
>On the same trip, I got hit on my bike, as you know the road to the gardens
>is narrow and a motor home decided to clip my back wheel as they passed me
>and sent me flying in what we bike riders call an "endo." Gave me a headache
>and a hole in my elbow down to the bone (it's healed now), made the lady in
>the motor home pass out watching me bleed, while I was laughing it off. They
>patched me up at the gardens and the rest of the trip went over without a
>hitch. Wonderful bike trails.
>What does this have to do with woodblock printmaking? Hmmmm, let's see, the
>imprint on my elbow from the gravel on the road made me instantly fall in
>love with printmaking? Oh oh, how about the "relief" that I experienced when
>I found out nothing was broken? Oh well, I tried, sorry.

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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:05:09 -0600
Subject: [Baren 8639] re: Copyright........ 

By accident I came across this website that has quite a deal of info on
copyright's do's and don'ts. Many
of us not only do prints but also write poetry, do books, etc.....

Check it out and the sample forms at the bottom for obtaining releases....


http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/permission/


Thanks.......Julio



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From: Roxanne Sexauer <woodcuts@csulb.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:29:52 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8640] Re: Miami Confab 

Dear peripatetic baren members - (Maria, Dan, Barbara, Jeanne, Karla and Horacio)

Hopefully I didn't leave anyone out. Don are you doing a demo there?
Jean do you have plans for travel?

Looking forward to meeting you all at breakfast - but be warned - as a
native to the Bronx I liberally slather my eggs in catsup.  Don't knock
it until you've tried it. I don't know about the pink carnations or red
bandanas - surely we can know each other by the disgusting state of our fingernails?

My print titled "Narrenschiff" which will be on display during the
conference in the "Ship of Fools" exhibition can be seen on the web at
the following URL: www.zing.com/album/pictures.html?id=4294668385&p=4292408313
See what you all think. (Bea - this is the reason I couldn't be at your
wonderful meeting!) All three digital photos are fairly identical, tried
different lighting situations to see which would work best & it made
absolutely no difference.  At any rate, the distorted rib cage (I added
a few extra ribs) is actually printed in a dark blue, tho here it
appears to be brown. The print size is 22 x 30", printed to an edition
of 25, on 250 gm white BFK. Because with each run of a different medium
there is more chance for failure, I printed a total of 53.
Unfortunately, most will end up in the circular file. 

The 1st run (Naples yellow) was a lithograph made with a xerox toner
wash. Cynthia Osborne, who teaches as part of my department will be
doing a demo on this technique in Miami.  The next run, same color, more
trans base, was done in a screen-print. The next 3 blocks, are all
woodcut.  If anyone is interested, I can talk about the content &
context of the beast .

My students are all sending "Dragon" prints to Margaret Prentice at the
University of Oregon. Spoke to her this morning & I think as long as
they are post-marked by 3/1/00, you could send her an edition.

Roxanne 
Long Beach, CA, USA

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From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:36:33 -0500
Subject: [Baren 8641] Re: SGC charset="iso-8859-1" 

Dear Mr. President Dan

Good idea. Afraid I will not be in on time to make it to the meeting.
Hopefully you will be able to get a place near the college. Try the Holiday
Inn as they are right across the street (highway) from the University.

Congratulations, see you at the breakfast, we hope.

Jeanne N.
Now you can rest your sore arms for one week!




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