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Baren Digest              Wednesday, 1 March 2000      Volume 10 : Number 923


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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:49:15 EST
Subject: [Baren 8665] April's class, "baren arm" 

Jean, I can HIGHLY recommend April's class, she's a fantastic teacher, 
extremely knowledgeable, great at troubleshooting different problems, etc etc 
etc.  When I took her class I had previously studied hanga w/a couple of 
other teachers, but she was able to answer a lot of very specific questions I 
had.  She's great!  Not to mention a wonderful person also :)
Dan, as for your "baren arm", one solution that I've found to be great is a 
ball bearing baren ( you can get them from McClain's).  A little pricey, but 
well worth it, it's like working with a power tool, you hardly have to press 
it down at all and can get smooth large flat areas much more easily.
best wishes all,
Sarah
NYC

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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?dimitris=20grammatikopulos?= <aenaonartst@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:04:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 8666] Re: contact list 

My contract does not involve any notifications of any kind. I asked for
that precisly.Otherwise it's a 'yes'?
Dimitris

P.S.Then there'd be two if us paranoids!

> Personally, I'd love to. But Dimitris, my only concern is allowing
> roving
> online robots to proliferate our addresses to nefarious bulk e-mail
> companies.

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From: David Bull <davebull@w.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:36:06 +0900
Subject: [Baren 8667] Re: contact list 

John wrote:
> Incidently, Dave Bull has been very good at keeping the Baren
> site secure from these pirates.

Well, I have, and I haven't.  The people at Asahi Net here in Tokyo are
the paranoid ones, and have really mounted strong defenses against
spammers.  If memory serves me correctly, this [Baren] list has never
been hit by a spammer ...  

But that's nothing that I can take credit for.  Where I made a big
mistake though, was in setting up the Archives.  I simply took each
Digest, cleaned up the junk and extra quotes, and then just put it up
on the website.  That was foolish, as I have since found out that robots
troll through there many times a week looking for stuff to index, and of
course for addresses to pull out.

The Archives at the moment are way way behind schedule, but when I get
time to get back to updating them, I'm going to erase the email
addresses before I upload each new page.  It might make it less
convenient for readers who want to contact somebody, but I think it will
greatly help reduce spam ...

***

On printmaking topics ... I've finished proofing on the first surimono
print of this year, and am now doing the edition printing.  

http://w.com/surimono/2000/2-1/display_print_2-1.html

I'm also trying something a little bit different with this print run
...  I have here in my workshop a small pile of very special paper.  I
had an opportunity last year to get my hands on some blank, unused paper
that was made back in the Edo era, probably just about 200 years ago.  I
can't date it exactly, but it is certainly no older than 1775, and
probably no newer than 1810 or so. I don't have a whole lot of it, so
have been thinking _very_ carefully about how best to use it.

This month's surimono reproduction seemed like a design that would suit
it, so I put one sheet into the stack for printing.  I've finished two
of the ten colours so far, and I tell you, when that 200-year old sheet
comes up in the stack it's hard to keep my hands from shaking ...  It's
pretty delicate stuff, so I have to lay it in place and rub with the
baren very carefully indeed ...

If I don't screw it up, this is going to be one very special print -
designed in 1830, carved in 2000, and printed on paper made in around
1800 ...  (I can't wait to show it to some 'expert' and watch him start
scratching his head, trying to figure it out!)

Dave


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From: "Lezle Williams" <lezlewilliams@gwtc.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:37:39 -0600
Subject: [Baren 8668] university printmaking position charset="iso-8859-1" 

Dear Baren,

This is for our lurker grad students or others who may be looking for a
printmaking teaching position:

Sinte Gleska University- a tribal college in SD, is currently advertising
for a printmaker/painter.  This has been my position here for 4 years.  If
anyone would like details on the job or reservation life, please e-mail me
off list at: laughingcrow@usa.net

Lezle Williams
Laughing Crow Studio
www.laughingcrow.org


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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:24:55 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8669] David's print, cherry and shina and April's workshop charset="iso-8859-1" 

David, your surimono print is beautiful!  I started asking you questions
about it and instead went back to read what you wrote - thank you - it's a
wonderful story.  I opt for my grand kids kids seeing the print in an
oxidized state!  Please show us the print on the Edo period paper when you
finish.  Do you think the internet will allow us to see a difference?

Jean, you are lucky to have April so close for a workshop.  She's an
excellent teacher and you'll enjoy working with her.  Your work is very good
today so look for the things you need from her to make you even better! Did
you notice I did a hanga demo for the LA group and Georgia even said she
wanted to try it?  That's because I had a great teacher. (as well as
learning on the Baren from you and others)

Jack, Thanks for the expansion explanation - I think I'll just use my
expensive cherry for the color blocks on this print. I love working on the
solid blocks but it would be good to find a plywood with a cherry veneer if
it were less expensive. I think Maria said she found a cherry veneer in Las
Vegas. Eh, Maria?

Back to work!
Bea Gold
Los Angeles, CA USA
www/beagold.com


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From: "Maria Arango" <maria@mariarango.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:39:08 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8670] Re: cherrywood charset="iso-8859-1" 

Bea wrote:>
> Jack, Thanks for the expansion explanation - I think I'll just use my
> expensive cherry for the color blocks on this print. I love working on the
> solid blocks but it would be good to find a plywood with a cherry veneer
if
> it were less expensive. I think Maria said she found a cherry veneer in
Las
> Vegas. Eh, Maria?

Yes, I found cherry veneer but it's only about a couple of mils. thick, not
mounted on plywood. I used it to print on! They do sell cherry in 1/4" to
1/2" thick but only to 6" wide in the hobby section of Payless Cashways and
Home Depot. I joined a couple of pieces and just yesterday I printed without
a seam showing. I may just have to restrict my prints to 6" :-)
If I recall, one of the wood suppliers listed in my suppliers had cherry
plywood, but I can't remember which one. It might have been Woodcraft, but
not sure.
Anyway, if someone has time: http://www.printmakingstudio.com/links.html


Bea, I do have the pics from L.A. you sent and will try to send them to Dave
for the Member Activities today. With my workshop starting soon, I've been
trying to get all the supply lists and posters and stuff done.
Health to all,
Maria

******************************
Maria Arango, Printmaker
Las Vegas  Nevada  USA
http://www.printmakingstudio.com
maria@mariarango.com
mariten@lvcm.com
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>


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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:25:28 EST
Subject: [Baren 8671] Re: New Baby 

barbara 
   thanks for posting this message
don  
   i will light candles for your little girl    i pray she will be well
georga

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From: agatha <agatha@uswest.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:27:20 -0800
Subject: [Baren 8672] Re: Baren Digest V10 #921 

jean, i was thinking of taking april's class, too.  email me privately, maybe we can chat
about this.

agatha@uswest.net


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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:31:10 -1000
Subject: [Baren 8673] Re: cherrywood 

Maria Arango wrote:

> If I recall, one of the wood suppliers listed in my suppliers had cherry
> plywood, but I can't remember which one. It might have been Woodcraft, but
> not sure.

Domestically available cherry plywood has a -very- thin cherry veneer, and so
isn't much use as a block wood.

Jack
Aiea, Hawaii


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From: Ruth Leaf <ruth@ruthleaf.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:11:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 8674] Re: Baren Digest V10 #922 

- --
http://www.ruthleaf.com

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From: Ruth Leaf <ruth@ruthleaf.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:22:55 -0700
Subject: [Baren 8675] Re: Baren Digest V10 #922 

Yes Dimitris I would love to be on you contact email page.
ruth@ruthleaf.com   I would also be pleased if you mentioned my
website. Thanks..Ruth
http://www.ruthleaf.com

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From: Studio Dalwood <severn@acay.com.au>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:23:49 +1100
Subject: [Baren 8676] Selling on the net 

Wow!

Thanks guys for your replys. I'm actually trying to put together stage
two of both Studio Dalwood  and Print Australia and part of the long
term plan includes not only selling my own work but that of other
printmakers too. I had not considered the exchange problem very much,
thanx Graham. I will need to look into this part. Would an acceptable
solution be to price the work to take into consideration both postage
and exchange rates? 

I was horrified to find that it cost $8 to buy a postal order and about
$24 for the return postage of one package to the USA that was before
taking into consideration that thanks to the mismanagement of our
current Govt the exchange rate is about 62c. So for example to post a
small package (return) plus US$25 in fees = Aus$40 + $8 +$24 postage.
Say Aus$75 Not nice. This will be a problem for the swaps. I cant
remember but is it acceptable to send a bundle from several editions at
once?

If the buyer is sending the money from the states wouldnt the thing be
to ask for payment in (my case) Aus$ ? Then the buyer wears the exchange
costs. 

I certainly would not consider sending money via the net or credit card
payments. As Dimitris points out the net is not secure no matter how
fancy your attempts to secure it are. Just look at the denial of service
fiasco. I refuse to do net banking for this reason. The only secure pc
is in a locked room with no net access.

We have a small population here with only about 10% on the net and when
you consider how many of that 10% are interested in prints you can see
that the major market has to be from the USA which has a large
population who are on the net. Andy has the same problem I think.

When I have more time I need to research prices on-line for prints of
similar size, medium and quality though how to quantify the latter I
dont know. Know your market they say. I guess i should also compare USA
prices with domestic ones. 

*************
Jean said
"On the other hand,
maybe Howard and I could go up there and get married among the wood
chips
and chippers.  Ah, well, I'll have to check with him first."

My daughter was reminded several times from well meaning family members
that 29th February is the day that women are _allowed_ to propose. Just
a thought... She was most indignant, claims she will propose if and when
she wants! No idea who she gets that off. ;-)
****************
As for spam mail. I get it too. Its one of the hazards of advertising
your site and your work. One remedy is to report any misuse to the
spammer's service provider and ask them to remove the offender's
account. This has worked for me. If you reply to the spammer it confirms
that your account is active and encourages more mail. I must put a
warning on the website.

Getting back on-line
Josephine
Sydney Australia

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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?dimitris=20grammatikopulos?= <aenaonartst@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:25:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 8677] lino-cut 

Hello, Barenworld!
I'd like to show off with a lino-cut I printed this weekend.
It's called "Saint Refugee the Bombed", 46x29 cm ( 18,11"x11,41")and it is
dedicated to all those ...Democrats around the world, who helped the
$/Euro rate down by dropping a couple of thousand ...Democratic and
Justice-loving bombs all around the Balkans! Wasn't that nice?Now I know
why they claimed to serve Justice...She is blind, after all!
regards,
Dimitris

www.plaindotline.gr/gallery/refugee.jpg

P.S. Soon to be made in a series called "The Temple of the Chased", a
small memorial to all those that never knew how they lost their
fatherlands, e.g. Indian tribes, Armenians, Ruandians, Yugoslavians,
Cypriots, Greeks of Pontos and many many more adding to the highlights of
Human Achievements.
__________________________________________________
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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:32:35 +0100
Subject: [Baren 8678] Re: sizing of paper 

Maria Arango wrote:

>  How to tell if a paper is sized if you can't see the waterleaf?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just try to go through all the 270 or so mails I missed while
> seperated from my computer.
>
> The way I check sized paper is tasting. Your tounge knows the
> difference between sized and unsized paper immediately.
>
> michael


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From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:40:10 +0100
Subject: [Baren 8679] Re: sizing of paper 

John Amoss wrote:

> > How to tell if a paper is sized...
>
> To add to Maria's list of ways to tell if a paper is sized:
>
> I lick a corner of a sheet. If my tongue sticks to the paper, it means that
> the paper is too absorbant to have been sized.
>
> I would suggest making sure nobody in the store is watching while doing
> such depraved activities.
>
> Always living (and licking) on the edge,
> -John
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>        AMOSS ILLUSTRATION, INC.
>     (706)549-4662 FAX(706)549-3962
>          amoss@mindspring.com
>        www.mindspring.com/~amoss
> 365 Ponderosa Dr.,Athens, GA 30605 USA

OK! before anyone else reminds me, I have to do it myself!

Read all the  messages before spreading unnecessary wisdom michael!

michael


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