Baren Digest              Thursday, 17 August 2000      Volume 12 : Number 1116


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From: "Rudolf Stalder" <stalderp@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:44:13 -0700
Subject: [Baren 10982] rollers charset="iso-8859-1" 

Dave: 

"...  Anybody know where I might pick up
one of these things?  I'm not interested in using it as a press for
printing, but as a tool for flattening overly thick paper before
printing starts."

These are the rollers I use for my press, they cost about $ 10 the piece.

http://www.rst-art.com/Protestflatw.htm

For more contact off-line. Rudolf (http://www.rst-art.com)




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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:23:31 -0600
Subject: [Baren 10984] Transfer 

Hello All,
   I'm new to the list and have a question for those much more knowledgeabl=
e than I. I typically do all my sketching and planning in the sketchbook =
then transfer to a block or plate (or whatever).  I've used the computer =
and photoshop as a good tool for transferring, recently, with intaglio =
plates. I still have to do some old fashioned etching to get my results as =
I like, but this gives a good start. For a woodblock, I would like to use =
a toner transfer with acetone on a piece of poplar. I'm fairly certain =
this will work fine, but I was wondering if there is any special prep =
which would help the image transfer better.

TyRuS


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From: Artsmadis@aol.com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:30:35 EDT
Subject: [Baren 10985] Re: Transfer 

In a message dated 8/16/00 11:25:45 AM Central Daylight Time, 
TRClutter@NNU.Edu writes:

<< I typically do all my sketching and planning in the sketchbook then 
transfer to a block >>

At woodblock.com page
http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/topics/018/018_frame.html
shows one way to  do it.

Darrell

...................
Arts Madis
http://members.aol.com/artsmadis/index.htm.htm
70 pages so far
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From: barbara patera <b.patera@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 100 12:08:43 Pacific Daylight Time
Subject: [Baren 10986] re transfers 

Hi Tyrus,

Are you transfering computer printouts? I do this all the time... it is easy to scan and size a drawing using the 
resize feature and then I print it on acetate. This means that I can flip the drawing over...place it face down on my 
plate and rub and draw over the print. My inkjet ink transfers over to the plate without the use of any wetting 
agent.

When I use a printout on regular paper I put it face down on the block and wet the back with mineral spirits...rub 
a little and the transfer is done.

I prefer using the acetate method....I can see what is happening and I get no bleed of lines.

Barbara P.

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From: Studio Dalwood <severn@acay.com.au>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:55:45 +1000
Subject: [Baren 10987] Another Hoax? 

David said
"Last week on Ebay I saw a little desktop 'press' - nothing
more than
a couple of steel rollers mounted in a frame, kind of like
the 'mangle'
on top of an old-style washing machine.

http://woodblock.com/temporary/roller_press.jpg

I missed the auction unfortunately.  Anybody know where I
might pick
up one of these things?"

David Bull buying a press. Nah! I dont believe it. Someone
pinch me. Has to be a hoax.
LOL

Josephine

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From: Kris Alder <krisalder@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:17:31 -0600
Subject: [Baren 10988] RE: Transfer 

Tyrus wrote:
>For a woodblock, I would like to use a toner transfer with acetone on a piece
>of poplar. I'm fairly certain this will work fine, but I was wondering if 
there >is any special prep which would help the image transfer better.

Tyrus,
I've used the method you describe to do a toner transfer onto wood.  It works 
really well.  You might also try using wintergreen oil instead of acetone.  
Gives excellent results without the toxicity of acetone (plus your wood and 
anything you use it on smells great(-; ).  The properties of the wintergreen 
oil are such that the oil dissipates fairly quickly and won't leave a harmful 
residue on the block/plate or your paper.  The wintergreen transfer method is 
also great for transferring toner and color copies onto papers as added 
elements in a composition.

Happy cutting!
Kris

***********************
Kristine Alder, Printmaker/Art Educator
Logan, UT 
<krisalder@cc.usu.edu>
<kritz85@hotmail.com>
***********************


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From: Artsmadis@aol.com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:33:20 EDT
Subject: [Baren 10989] Re: Transfer 

In a message dated 8/16/00 7:20:43 PM Central Daylight Time, 
krisalder@cc.usu.edu writes:

<<  You might also try using wintergreen oil instead of acetone.  >>

I believe it was on the mtsu message board <A 
HREF="http://www.mtsu.edu/~art/printmaking/wwwboard/wwwboard.html">printmaking
 forum</A> http://www.mtsu.edu/~art/printmaking/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
I saw a discussion about wintergreen oil being more toxic than previously 
supposed.  Can't access that site right now but about 25 messages down there 
is a question and a couple of answers about it.

Darrell

...................
Arts Madis
http://members.aol.com/artsmadis/index.htm.htm
70 pages so far
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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:50:27 EDT
Subject: [Baren 10990] Re: Transfer 

where would i find wintergreen oil?
georga

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From: "TSHACK" <TSHACK@SILVER-BAYOU.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:01:22 -0700
Subject: [Baren 10992] Re: Phone scam charset="iso-8859-1" 

http://www.nerdherd.com/services/hoax-attscam.html

Please check out this website.


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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:15:47 -0600
Subject: [Baren 10994] Transfer 

Thanks to all for input on toner transfer methods, now I've gotta fine me =
some wintergreen oil.
TyRuS

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From: slinder@mediaone.net
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 10995] Re: Transfer 

Good luck, Tyrus!  It is becoming increasing difficult 
to find wintergreen oil, in part because of the 
homogenizing of pharmacies.  The 'giant' pharmacies 
don't carry specialized products and the little guys 
are being heavily squeezed out of business.  If you 
can find a little pharmacist, that's where you'll 
be able to find it!  It is also becoming much more 
expensive every year.  

I hope that someone will be able to provide the name 
of a supplier who can provide it at a more reasonable 
price.  I think that the little bottle that we found 
this spring was more expensive than the pure vanilla 
extract you might buy for baking--and we got the last 
bottle in the supply!  We did some internet research, 
and found a supplier, but you could buy it from that 
supplier by the barrel or the tank car!

BTW there were some warnings that we saw concerning 
the fact that wintergreen oil (used for years to 
massage into arthritic joints--the fragrance always 
reminds me of my grandmother!) can pass through the 
skin and in some people can cause illness.

Can someone will suggest a more practical source for us?  

Sharen

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:08:10 -0700
Subject: [Baren 10996] Re: Transfer 

>where would i find wintergreen oil?
>georga

You may have a difficult time finding this.
Be prepared for a pricey surprise.

You can use Lacquer Tinners. Does an excellent job.
Take care to use it IN A WELL VENTILATED ROOM
or better still OUTSIDE.

This works with photocopies

Graham

GROWING OLD
Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

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From: "john ryrie" <jryrie@one.net.au>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:24:22 +1000
Subject: [Baren 10997] 90# charset="iso-8859-1" 

Graham said:
Do NOT push 90# on your home phone.

This is also the case in Australia, I think it's a different number hear ( I
did know it at one time) but it dose the same thing.

John

Q: why did the chicken cross the road?
A: it was nailed to a punk's forehead.


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From: Krista Harberson <kristah@mb.ginet.or.jp>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:35:25 +0900
Subject: [Baren 10998] Re: Transfer 

i'm also one who prefers the lacquer thinner method, strictly for
convenience sake. however, i have used wintergreen oil in a few cases and
was able to find it at some of the smaller health food stores of the
mom-and-pop variety. was rather pricey as i remember.

happy hunting all.

krista

Aqua4tis@aol.com wrote:

> [Baren]: The mailing list / discussion forum for woodblock printmaking.
>
> where would i find wintergreen oil?
> georga


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