Baren Digest             Saturday, 16 December 2000     Volume 13 : Number 1246


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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:25:02 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12491] Re: Japanese Drier 

Hi there:

Jeanne, I don't know about the effects of japan drier in ink, but I do know
that it is not recommended for oil painting.  As the only drier I have ever
seen recommended for permanent artist materials (linseed based oils) is
cobalt.

You should first check to see if your paints, inks and mediums already have
drier mixed in.  If so then adding more drier, of any sort, could badly
effect your works.
..
Eli Griggs
Charlotte N.C.
USA


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From: GWohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:40:32 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12493] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1245 

> If you know a wood turner, have him/her turn you an assortment of tapered
> dowels and use these on the insides of gouges.
> 

Why do the dowels have to be tapered?  Can't you just buy a bunch of
different sizes from the hardware store without them having to be tapered?

Your information on honing is interesting, Eli. 

Gayle

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From: "eli griggs" <eli.griggs@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:08:27 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12494] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1245 

Hi there:

Yes, you can have a number of dowels in different sizes or if you want you
can use a tapered dowel on several sizes of gouge.  It's just a matter of
getting the most utility out of the fewest bits of wood.

Eli Griggs
Charlotte N.C.
USA

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From: Artsmadis@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:38:11 EST
Subject: [Baren 12496] Re: Japanese Drier 

The main disadvantage of using driers is that they tend to discolor the 
vehicle [linseed oil] and cause darkening eventually. With thick paint or ink 
they might cause cracking because they dry the surface faster than the 
interior.
It is probably a better idea to add fast drying colors to your ink whenever 
possible instead of using driers.  The umbers, Prussian blue and burnt sienna 
have a pronounced drying effect on other colors.  Usually only a very little 
is required.  I know that adding a small amount of raw umber to zinc white 
oil paint will make it dry in a day or so instead of a week or more.  The 
small amout added changes the zinc white from a pure cold white to a warm 
white.  The color change would be unnoticeable in many colors.

Darrell

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From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" <studiojnc@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:42:39 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12497] Drier 

Thanks Barbara and Eli

Cobalt drier it is.
Although I have used Japan drier on my oil canvases, but only a little and
it worked fine. Perhaps in 50 years or so the paint will peel off and then I
will not be in the art hall of fame as all my paintings will be
disintegrated!!!  Alas!!

Jeanne N.

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