Baren Digest               Monday, 8 January 2001       Volume 14 : Number 1278


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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer@iinet.net.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 01 00:21:54 -0000
Subject: [Baren 12867] Re: Lino and waterbased inks 

In Australia we can still buy the brown lino or the grey Silk Cut 
lino...other postings have given the difference between the two with 
Graphic Chemical's expert advice on the joys of working with warm 
lino...(don't forget - sharp tools!)

Lino takes waterbased inks well, but use them differently to the 
traditional style of the hanga technique..I have for several years used 
waterbased Coates (and other brands) Pantone waterbased relief ink on dry 
paper.I have experienced that thicker good quality paper will not shrink 
between colour applications (200gms). These relief inks are designed to 
be used with a roller. It shouldn't be necessary to add linseed oil to 
the relief ink, but it can be done ...it might be old ink. The linseed 
won't leave a "stain" mark, but the smell will still be there for a long 
time, especially if the prints are stored in a confined space.

Wait for the first colour to dry before printing second and subsequent 
colours.  Transparent colours give beautiful effects if overprinted on 
previous printings, the same as watercolour painting.  To get a 
transparent effect there is an Extender in the same paint range to mix 
with the opaque colour...mix a little colour to the 
extender...1:10...test it on a piece of paper...add more colour to the 
original mix to darken the colour ...2:10...3:10...4:10 ..till you get 
the colour you require. 

The beauty of the waterbased ink is it washes off the roller and the 
plate in water...heaven!

Admittedly the waterbased colour is not as intense or shiney as oil, but 
neither is watercolour compared to oil paint.

Whatever you print whether in lino, wood, etching, etc always use the 
very best paper you can afford...for the very best results, especially 
with waterbased printing or painting.

Waterbased relief inks can also be used on your woodblocks too. 

Cheers, Jan

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From: B Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:24:54 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12868] lino and waterbased ink 

Jan,
Interesting about the ink available in Australia. Not a familiar brand
here, where is Coates made? Is it a rewetting ink? I mean, if the ink
dries totally on something, say your glass, can you add water to make it
soluble again? Lots of the waterbased ink here has a polymer base and is
not rewetting. It would be interesting to know what is in this ink. I
work a lot with kids and am always looking for a better ink that rewets,
for obvious reasons.
Thanks,
Barbara

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From: Arafat Alnaim <ar_alnaim@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:40:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 12869] Re: Southern Graphics council 

Dear Baren form members,
Happy New Year and New Millennium!
Regarding the SGC I think itās important to exchange
information about that and to pass information to the
members of the form about the conference papers,
documents and reports. So we are looking forward for
detailed reports about the events of the conference
and publications.
Thanks for your efforts to keep us informed
Regards
Arafat Al-Naim
Sofia, Bulgaria

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From: Shireen Holman <shireenh@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:17:13 -0500
Subject: [Baren 12870] Re: Southern Graphics council 

At 09:40 AM 1/7/01 -0800, Arafat wrote:
>Regarding the SGC I think it's important to exchange
>information about that and to pass information to the
>members of the form about the conference papers,
>documents and reports. So we are looking forward for
>detailed reports about the events of the conference
>and publications.

I will probably be writing something up for the Maryland Printmakers 
newsletter about the events, etc. at the conference, so I could add that to 
Baren Suji, if Maria would like.
Shireen


Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist
email: shireenh@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~shireenh/
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From: barebonesart <barebonesart@home.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:03:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12871] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1277 

Not to beat a dead horse, but I think Josephine and Graham have mixed the
terms "edit" and "censor" - two entirely different things. If I thought the
messages were being censored I would be out of here in a heart-beat. But,
editing is just cleaning up the messes. Thanks, Wanda, you're doing a great
job. Are you going to find time to apply to NWPC this April?

Sharri

PS I really hope both J and G will come back - they are such wonderful
contributors about process, etc.



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From: Wanda <robertson@canby.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 13:45:33 -0700
Subject: [Baren 12872] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1277 

Hi Sharri,

I appreciate your comments - just for the record: neither Graham nor Josephine
has unsubscribed. Much to my surprise, only one person has unsubscribed lately -
"too many e-mails & too much strife" were the reasons quoted. I think the good
greatly outnumbers the bad on Baren. Perhaps most of you feel the same way.

I do plan to try for North West Print Coucil Membership this spring. It has been
one of my goals since I started making prints. 

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Michelle,

I am also guilty of not putting USA on my address. Yes, I admit to thinking that
*I* am the center of the universe occasionally. :-) In looking at the 60
addresses on that list, though, I notice that the people from New Zealand,
Australia, Brazil, etc. have remembered to put their country! Thank goodness!
We'll all do better for the year of the Horse (2002) I am sure.

I, too, am glad to see some of the quieter people come out & post to the list.
Even though some of us don't comment on each post, we do read and enjoy all of them.

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I would like to say to all of you - thank you for your support, for your kind
words, and for your expressions of appreciation. Being a moderator isn't a
difficult job, I think of it as a service job. Kind of "waitress" of the mailing
list. I have always thought being a waitress is one of the most educational jobs
you can have. You get a real true view of the people you are waiting on. Everyone
should try it at least once in their life. 

My best to all of you,
Wanda
Baren Forum Moderator

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:41:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 12873] Re: Snake Exchange, Moderating the Baren, etc. 

Actually Michelle it wasn't the editing.
I received several very nasty postings that indicated very strongly I 
was not appreciatied or wanted.

Just want to keep the record straight.

Thanks,

Graham/Victoria BC
An Island in the Pacific
Home of the Boot Camp
http://members.home.net/woodblocks/



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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:45:59 EST
Subject: [Baren 12876] Re: [Baren  a question 

hi again
   i have a question     i think a short time ago someone posted something 
about the possibility of using stencil brushes instead of the more expensive 
hanga brushes to apply ink on the block    i dont remember who it was   but 
whoever you are     id like more details     im on a very limited budget 
right now   and this may be an ideal solution for me    for now
thanks
georga


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From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:53:00 -0600
Subject: [Baren 12877] Re: deadlines and such.... 01/07/2001 11:52:52 PM 

For the past year or so I been subscribed to a list/group/service that
sends me free info on upcoming events, exhibits, etc..., they also have a
paid subscription service that offers more goodies. Not trying to advertise
here and I don't have any connection wit the people that put this out. It
gives me a good feel for what's going on outthere and what type of art
people
are exhibiting.

Just thought some of you may be interested, if you go all the way to the
bottom of their page you will see instructions on how to subscribe to the
FREE service. If anyone wants to see the current issue let me know
privately and I can forward it to you....it's a bit large and I don't want
to add stuff to the digest that perhaps many are not interested in.

http://artdeadlineslist.com/subscribe

thanks...Julio


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From: Arafat Alnaim <ar_alnaim@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:34:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 12878] Re: Southern Graphics council 

Dear shireen,
That would be perfect! 
Iām interested in receiving the SGC publication if
there is any! How much is cost and how to order?
Regards
Arafat Al-Naim
Sofia, Bulgaria

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