Baren Digest Tuesday, 16 January 2001 Volume 14 : Number 1288 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GraphChem@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:50:09 EST Subject: [Baren 12998] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1285 bit re: Cows I know there have been a few cities that have copied us, but Chicago was the first city to make cows a city-wide artform. People loved the cows, it drew a great deal of attention to the art scene here, and is sorely missed by all Chicagoans. Dean ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:36:29 EST Subject: [Baren 12999] Topiary Puppy Hi all, for those who didn't have the pleasure of seeing the "topiary puppy" which Le mentioned, I have to tell you that I found it to be hilarious! It was absolutely huge (who knows how many stories high it was, maybe as big as the Christmas tree they put up in there after the puppy came down?) and was like a humongous bush which included flowers, etc "cut" in the shape of a sitting dog. I generally am not crazy about Jeff Koons, but I loved this. Great to see something that big with a sense of humor right in the midst of the overly gray and serious New York City- What can I say, the puppy "spoke" to me :) Sarah ------------------------------ From: B Mason Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:51:42 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13000] subject matter again Interesting discussion. From the artist's point of view, personal of course, I fine my message is driven in part by the medium. The hard edges of woodblock or linoblock certainly convey a different feeling that the soft fuzzy uneven edges of my monotypes. Clean black lines of etchings create a different feel than broad textures of lithos. So I think we are more than a bit controlled by this and I fine myself fighting the mediuim, always trying to make it do what it doesn't want to do. I wanted fine black lines in monotypes, doable but difficult. I want very irrigular edges in my woodblocks, doable but difficult. I want etchings that print by rolling on ink, not wiping as is traditional. My curse and blessing seems to fight the traditional. I am process driven and it makes me crazy and delights me at the same time. The finished work is almost a by product of the fight with the materials. So what kind of a message am I giving out? Crazy artist wins war with black lines in Monotype? news at 11? Just a little stew for this pot! Barbara ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:29:57 EST Subject: [Baren 13001] Re: Subject Matter I think if we are truly artists the subject we choose is only important to us. I have been slammed because I do flowers. I started doing wildflowers that I picked on my walks at the beach and that turned into a major theme for me because I love them so much and I am sad to see the natural enviroment we live in slowly being destroyed. People move in, at the coast, with a lovely wooded lot, with natural shrubs and flowers growing. They clear the lot and plant whatever new thing they want and watch it die and not flourish as the natural landscpe did. I have even seen people doze down a beautiful wooded lot, pour a large cemented yard and put up a chain link fence. It is ugly! At least a cow is something created naturally. And my daughter adores her cow images. We accept abstract images that are only color or value and we think a picture of a barn is wonderful. If the composition is good the quality of work is good and the heart of the artist is in a cow, a cat, a dog or a snake, then it can be highly prized and wonderful art. I got upset over the statement about cats. I bought a print from a wonderful printmaker that is a cat and a birdcage. It is so lovely, on wonderful handmade paper. It will be a treasure of mine for a very long time to come. I can't wait to put a flower image onto wood and watch that wood grain enhance the image, it can also enhance a cow or a reptile. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: "Walters, Stephanie J. (Nevada Color)" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:06:30 -0600 Subject: [Baren 13002] RE: Coming and Going charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry to upset you so much, April. Didn't mean to. In the commercial industry the term is Giclee. I can see how the translation could get misread or turned into a joke, but I do believe that the generally accepted traslation is "to spray ink", which is what the large format printers, such as the Iris, do. In the future, if ever discussing this in this forum again, I will refer to them as Roland prints, but I doubt if many people have ever heard of a Roland printer. Maybe I am wrong? I am sorry for starting this talk about "Roland" prints. I understand that the quality and depth that are created by a handmade print can never be reproduced electronically. Sorry if I have offended anyone. ------------------------------ From: michael schneider Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:43:53 +0100 Subject: [Baren 13004] 0auf1 biennale for printmaking Dear fellow baren member, it might be a little bit premature but I was waiting far too long to spread the news. Even though I was very quiet for some month, I tried to do my best to follow the discussions on baren. The project that occupied me in a way that I could not even reply to topics that aroused my interest was the internet based international biennale "0auf1" ("0to1") for printmaking. The official call for entries will be within the next two month, but the outlines of the biennale and the structure are already fixed. Last week we disclosed the project to the public in Vienna. Until today we did not tell the web address to anybody outside the committee. I am not only responsible for the presentation of the project in the internet, but also member of the organization committee and have invested a lot of time and energy to develop the concept. I am aware that the pages are not finished now and would be happy to receive some critic, opinions and suggestions on it. Being the one in charge I might be able to introduce your ideas into the concept directly. If you like the project, please do not hesitate to spread the word about it, but please do not forget to mention that today is the unofficial start. Of course you are all invited to take part and be sure that I would be very proud if I would have the possibility to welcome a member of baren as one of the award winners in Vienna. You can find the pages at: http://www.0auf1.net yours, michael schneider Vienna, Austria ------------------------------ From: Karla Hackenmiller Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:56:27 -0600 Subject: [Baren 13005] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1287 Since many of the Baren members have been involved with this workshop before and many others have expressed interest in hearing about it; I would like to announce that the website for Frogman's Print & Paper Workshops has been updated for the summer of 2001. http://www.bmtc.net/~frogmans The relief courses this summer are "Japanese Woodcut with Keiji Shinohara", "Color Woodcut with Jeanine Coupe Ryding" and "Wood Engraving & Letterpress with James Horton". Please, check it out if you're interested and feel free to contact me off-list if you have questions. Thanks, Karla Hackenmiller ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:30:16 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13006] Grrrrr charset="iso-8859-1" Julio Thanks for warning me!!!! Did you get the hugs and kisses or just the ylP? Sorry folks, my e mail must be messed up again, and I thought it was corrected. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:38:06 EST Subject: [Baren 13007] Re: Subject Matter I created a block print of a woman. this print has been very interesting to share, everyone seems to "see" something different in this print. I create with feeling for my subject and sometimes I know there are feelings under the surface that show. But exactly what I communicate seems to be different for each viewer. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:42:16 EST Subject: [Baren 13008] Re: Subject Matter So my woman bock print is successful because the one thing I was out to convey everyone has seen? But it also has differetent meanings for each person,so does that then make it even more successful or does that take away from my intent? Marilynn ------------------------------ From: GraphChem@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:36:21 EST Subject: [Baren 13009] Re: Subject Matter For what it's worth, one of the most successful artists that I know (in terms of sales and revenue) does cutesy prints in the vein of the kitten with a ball of string! It's not exactly what most of you would pick as a subject - nor would I, but she prints little sheets of paper (8x10 and smaller), and buys paper 5000 sheets (22x30) at a time. Artists need to decide what they want to do, and how important sales are to the equation. If you want to sell to a mass market - you'll end up with the kitten print. Mercifully, most artists want to create images that are self satisfying and challenging, regardless of the economic outcome. Art critics shouldn't cause you to change what you've set out to do. Dean ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest v14 #1288 *****************************