Baren Digest Wednesday, 7 February 2001 Volume 14 : Number 1311 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:31:51 EST Subject: [Baren 13281] thank you Thank you one and all who responded online & offline to my packing and shipping question, your suggestions were all useful, I'm printing and keeping them all for reference! Uline does indeed make a huge variety of boxes but if you're getting very big ones, the shipping is at least $50!!! Sharen, I love the cases on the site you showed me but they appear to be having trouble with their phone line so I was unable to contact them. ...so I continued my phone calls, etc. and found a moving company right here in NYC, Pathe Moving, which will sell me a very big box for $8 so I believe I'll go for that! Even if I have to take a cab to transport the monster box it will be way less than $50. Once again, thank you all for your immediate and helpful responses, this forum is great and amazing! best wishes all, Sarah ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:01:58 EST Subject: [Baren 13282] Re: thank you now i have a need. i want some sleeves to put matted work in. preferably something a 16x20 matted piece would fit in. anyone know where i can get such a thing? Marilynn ------------------------------ From: GWohlken Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13283] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1305 I need help. Which is better--Green Drop Ink or Acua color for black woodcut prints. Has anyone here tried them both? Gayle ------------------------------ From: "Philip Smith" Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:47:11 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13284] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1305 charset="iso-8859-1" Gayle,.... I just ordered a couple of colors from Acura. I'll get back to you as soon as I give them a try. The blurb on their sight says they, [the colors], stay open longer,...'easy roll up, I hope. Philip Hammond, OR ------------------------------ From: Claude Villeneuve Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 16:06:25 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13285] Re: Munakata Shiko Julio! How lucky you were to hold a block carved by Munakata!!! Did you see the print that was made from it? Claude AimŽe ------------------------------ From: b.patera@att.net Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 21:32:39 +0000 Subject: [Baren 13286] Re: Sssssnake Time Dan, Clever.... have been trying to figure out a way to display the " snakes " so, if you don't mind, will give your idea a try. ------------------------------ From: Claude Villeneuve Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 16:38:37 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13287] Re: Sssssnake Time Dan: Nice display idea. I was thinking of making an album with my handmade paper with various sheets of colour. I'll emboss the cover with a snake design and put a list at the beginning of who participated and where the exchange idea comes from. It will be easy to flip the pages and people won't have to manipulate each individual print so they won't get dirty. I plan to show them around a lot because they are all so beautiful! Claude AimŽe ------------------------------ From: Greg Carter Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:02:30 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13288] Re: thank you Marilynn University archival products have some great bags I use. I do not have a catolog at home but their web page is http://www.universityproducts.com They have all sizes. Greg Carter ------------------------------ From: Chris Bremmer Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 13289] Re: Acua or Green Drop inks Hi Gayle, I recently used the black Acua ink for a print and in general I thought it was great. I also added some of their retarder to each batch of ink, which made the printing process take a little longer than normal... drying took about 7 weeks before it was completely dry. (That was the only thing I didn't care for) All in all I liked it though, the ink still looks nice and rich and the print is about 3 months old. Chris ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Rectangle" Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:12:16 0100 Subject: [Baren 13290] Endangered print and various shows Hello, all, I, for one, am going to keep what my "Endangered Species" print is of/about a secret--with any luck, there won't be too many "repeats" of my idea... only enough repeats to create the print edition, you know. ;) I have two prints in an exhibition called "A Celebration of Women's Strength and Vision" February 26, 2001 through March 16, 2001 in the Transition Gallery at Idaho State University in Pocatello, Idaho. The reception and opening is at 7 PM on February 26th. I also have one print in "Outer Space" at the Gallery at Edison, Edison Community College, in Picqua, Ohio (the show opened on February 2nd). Also this month, I have a "print installation" in the American Print Alliance's "On/Off/Over the Edge" touring exhibition, but I haven't exactly figured out where on the campus of the University of Nebraska at Kearney the show is! Here's a url about the show... there's a picture of my piece on the page, and it lists other venues that the exhibition is scheduled to visit--it could be somewhere near you! http://www.printalliance.org/exhibits/on_off_over/onoffover.html Love <3 & Lint * ! Kat Pukas P.S. Thanks for setting me right again, Wanda! I thought for a sec I was getting censored! Whew! :D ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:24:43 EST Subject: [Baren 13291] Re: thank you Greg thanks that is exacttly what i was searching for. University press indeed had them! Marilynn ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:27:36 EST Subject: [Baren 13292] Re: thank you Oh I should say I was looking for something to protect them to display them without spending the hundreds of dollrs and finding the space for a shrink wrap machine. I have seen this done before and now I will have some for the work I wish to display. You can attempt to shrink wrap with platic wrap and a ahir dryer but it looks messy on the back, i want this to be a classy display! Thanks Greg I can keep the cost to about a dollar each it seems and that is fine, much cheaper than framing. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: barebonesart Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 16:57:31 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13293] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1310 Sarah, To ship 30 x 40 pieces I go to my local framer and get an empty fomecore box. It is already the perfect size in every dimension. I get regular foam rubber from a mattress factory, tho I'm sure an uphosterer would be an option, too. Get 1" thick and have them cut two pieces 30 x 40. Wrap the work in bubble wrap & nestle it in the middle of the foam sandwich, lay it in the box, and ship. My husband built me a beautiful plywood box 30 years ago - I used it once. It is too heavy and the shipping ends up costing a bundle. The only reason I would ever use it would possibly be shipping internationally. Come to think of it, the last time I did that I used one of the cardboard fomecore boxes cut down to size. I recommend the fomecore box. Dean, Thanks for the words of wisdom. I am with you! Why would anyone use toxic cleaners when they're unnecessary. I still use Gamsol to clean my oil painting brushes, tho. Has anyone come up with a better way to do that? I have also been told not to leave oil (veggie, baby or otherwise) on my rubber brayers & lino blocks, so I have always been careful to wash them with detergent & rinse well. I would be interested if there is any truth to the veggie oil hurting the rubber/lino, tho. Lee, Can you send a picture of the gallery with the snakes and dragons? Sharri ------------------------------ From: B E Mason Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 20:13:25 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13294] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1305 Green drop ink is easier to roll out but the Akua Kolor stays wet longer. I vote for Akua Kolor, you can use it like hanga or let it air thicken and roll it out and print on dry paper. Barbara GWohlken wrote: ------------------------------ From: B E Mason Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 20:48:05 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13295] clear sleves Marilynn, Try http://www.iconusa.com for your protector bags. Barbara ------------------------------ From: Lawrence Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:37:23 +1100 Subject: [Baren 13296] Eli Griggs have posted this to the Baron list as the print australia has bounced my mail. I know eli is on this list also, apologies in advance if this traumatizes anyone. You will need some chases, you can make these up if you know some one who welds. You will also need quoins to lock the type into the chase. Harder to get but not impossible. As for hand printing it, having no press is a big pain. If you build up around the chase to type height you may be able to do it. I've tried and the results are never as good as with a press. You live in the States, you ought to be able to find a Morgon Linoscribe proofer for $50-100 somewhere. much easier than hand burnishing monotype. Unfortunately the foundrys and printers suppliers I know in the states are all now closed otherwise I would point you in a better direction than this. Ink to use is definitely oil based. Use water based and you will see why you would be better off with very oil based quickly. Paper is often better misted, or soaked and blotted. Regards Lawrence ------------------------------ From: BBlitstein@netscape.net (Bonnie Blitstein) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 01:32:24 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13297] Re: Eli Griggs, Monoprinting yes, yes in waterbased too no limits here check it out Okay hello aspiring monoprint people Monoprinting can can also be done Magnificently with water based inks Caran D'ache crayons waterbased are EXCELLENT. Please, Please order from any Book store or look up on the net Julia Ayers Book on Monoprinting the very best and she also sells an excellent roller that can help expedite the printing process with all water-based inks or oil too also please please check out Susan Rostow and William Jung at www.waterbasedinks.com. Julia's wonderful fabulous book can be gotten from Amazon.com., or maybe Barnes and Noble or any good bookstore etc. Yes I love oil based inks for monoprints too but please check out all options. Monoprinting is one of my all time favorite printing method...loosening you up getting the juices going for many creative tangents...you can take a monoprint and use it as a sketch for a woodblock or etching...the images and concepts are endless....I have many, many fine monoprints that I have done and they are sometimes works of themselves or are used to go into something else....also you don't need a press also with acrylic paint use a retarder, experiment ...with Akuacolor you don't need to wet the paper but with all other types of transfer you do.....Have fun make small experiments first get a notebook and write about what works for you and what colors and mixtures you used...then go bigger....Okay the Roller for using with Monoprints is awesome I can't remember the website but look up Julia Ayers monoprinting site...she has one...hmmmmmmm what else oh yeah experiment have no fear....I keep a little notebook too of what works and what doesn't ENJOY MONOPRINTING IS AWESOME Oh yeah I forgot have fun.... ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 22:45:16 -0700 Subject: [Baren 13298] Re: Endangered print and various shows With so much diversity in this group of people, I don't think there will be much (if any) duplication of endangered things! Even if that were to happen - the treatment would certainly be different with each artist. I get crazy ideas every once in a while - and the other day I was thinking that it would be interesting to have only one subject for an exchange. Like a mountain or a river or a cat or limit the color to only blue & brown or some such thing like that. I haven't been able to participate much in Baren the last couple of weeks - just too heavy a schedule around here. Plus, my sheep are now officially having lambs. Now if I can just keep those *not* endangered coyotes away from them - I will be very happy. Good printing to you all! Wanda ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest v14 #1311 *****************************