Baren Digest Thursday, 15 March 2001 Volume 14 : Number 1356 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Garth Hammond" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:31:28 -0700 Subject: [Baren 13883] Re: Pochoir technique charset="iso-8859-1" I'll write out the sounds: PO: Poe (Like in Edgar Allan POE) CHOIR: shwar = Poe SHWAR thanks, Garth ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:29:04 EST Subject: [Baren 13884] sketchy lines, small spaces Gayle asked, <> Gayle, thanks for the nice feedback. One of the things I try to do w/my prints is translate my loose drawing line to woodblock - which can be a challenge at times! I have to say the combination of very sharp Japanese tools and shina plywood seems to work pretty well for me. I have to cut a bit more carefully with the smaller prints! I find that having a variety of sizes and shapes of tools certainly helps to be able to get a variety of different types of lines. Luckily, since the lines are not all connected and the images are stylized, it doesn't matter too much if a bit of wood chips off here and there. :) As for working in small spaces, hey where are you recently posting newbie NYers (Gretchen, Nilsa, etc) hiding out at? If you saw the teeny space I work on, you'd be surprised, especially with the recent large blocks 3 feet wide or more hanging around - I manage that by storing the boards upright leaning against a table or wall or whatever, then when I'm ready to work on them I just put them on the floor - I know, it would be better to work on a table, but what can I tell you? Hanga is great for working in a small space. I have a little drafting table which I can use for either cutting at or drawing or printing - unfortunately you have to juggle stuff around all the time, but so be it. Waterbased inks are easy to clean up and not terribly toxic, etc but you do need to keep the cats or kids away, especially from that phthalo blue! Go for it- Sarah ------------------------------ From: "Connie Grace" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:28:02 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13885] Fw: White line woodcuts Hi, My name is Connie Grace contol@erols.com and I have been lurking on = this site for a long time thinking about speaking up sooner or later. = I'm a white-line woodcut artist and have been for many years. I have a = studio in the Torpedo Factory Art Center in Alexandria, VA, where I show = my prints and drawings. I fell in love with the technique years ago at a = show of the Provincetown Printers at the National Museum of American = Art in Washington, DC and soon afterward a friend and I went to Orleans, = MA, for a brief workshop with Ruth Hogan who did the article in American = Artist. I have been white-lining ever since. If you would like to see = some of my work my URL address is http://www.torpedofactory.org/artists/grace_c.htm (there is a little = underline dash between the grace and the c.htm). Easier- just use your = browser and search for white line woodcut. I am the first listed. If = you have any questions about the technique please feel free to contact = me. It takes a long time to print one of these so I have developed some = techniques of my own. I have done many large prints and small ones too. = (I have thought about joining one of your exchanges and just might one = day.) If you don't have infinite patience it may not be for you. I = love it. I am also co-chairman of the Original Print Calendar, a juried = collection of original prints done in a calendar format. The 2002 = calendar entries will be juried in May by Stephen Phillips, Curator of = 20th century art at the Phillips Collection in Washington. Calendars = are archived by the Corcoran Gallery of Art in DC as part of their = permanent collection and are in the permanent collections of the = National Museum of Women in the Arts, the Library of Congress and the = Smithsonian among others. It is purchased by collectors all over the = world. If you are interested in submitting for jurying please contact = me for details. Glad I finally broke the ice. ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:40:35 -0700 Subject: [Baren 13886] Posting etiquette Hello everyone, I just received a nice note from one of our very busy barenforum members. I would like to ask everyone to please try to limit their posts to one per day. This will make for really good reading, and keep our baren list (and the archives) in a more compact form. This is from the Barenforum's "Welcome to Baren" page: >In general please try to avoid posting more than once a day. This 'rule' is necessary >because of the amount of traffic we generate. Instead of sending several short notes, >reply to a number of things in one longer post, with clearly marked sections. I would also like to encourage our new members to feel free to post - the introductions lately have been very interesting reading. Also, chances are if you start your message with someone's name (congratulations, in answer to your question, etc.) that message would be better (and more personal) sent to that person. I know I myself am guilty of doing this - and you may feel free to remind me of it (to my personal e-mail address, please) if you like! I think it would be fair to say that *all* of us are excited about the successes & awards of our members. But a personal note is always appreciated by the successful and award-winning person! Thank you all so much for helping with these matters - we all appreciate it. Wanda Barenforum Moderator ------------------------------ From: Pgiclas@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:44:18 EST Subject: [Baren 13887] Re: Paper alternatives.... For what it's worth, after soaking paper I always put it between two or more layers of blotting paper and use a rolling pin (as in making pie crust!) to press out the excess water. This works really well to produce paper that is maximally swollen and minimally soggy. Patsy ------------------------------ From: slinder@mediaone.net Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:25:39 -0600 Subject: [Baren 13888] Re: Fw: White line woodcuts Hello, Connie! Welcome to the list! I enjoyed seeing your beautiful prints! Alexandria is a great town! --and anyone going there simply must visit the wonderful Torpedo Factory Art Center! What a stimulating community of artists to work within! Please tell us more about your calendar project! Sharen, near Chicago ------------------------------ From: B E Mason Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:28:07 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13889] Re: Paper alternatives.... Patsy, If you use old well used bath towels you will save a lot of money, just launder them when they get too much sizing in them. Barbara ------------------------------ From: Nilsa Macaya Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:39:58 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13890] Re: Fw: White line woodcuts Connie, WOW - the colors on your prints just blew me away. Aside from dazzling my visual senses, I suddenly feel like packing up and going on vocation. Thanks for sharing. To all who offered advice on workspace, many thanks. I saved all the emails so that I can review them when I actually start carving. Right now, I am still attending a class on monotypes - I had to start somewhere. Nilsa ------------------------------ From: "John and Michelle Morrell" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:43:06 -0900 Subject: [Baren 13891] Baila Baila and Fisher charset="iso-8859-1" Excellent, vibrant print, Maria! Graham, I couldn't get your Fisher to load. Got to the screen that said it was sold out, but only a little netscape face in the upper left corner for the print. Can you fix that link? Thanx. <^><^><^><^><^><^> Michelle Morrell jmmorrell@gci.net <^><^><^><^><^><^> ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:13:03 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13892] Re: frustrating.... charset="iso-8859-1" Graham - am I counting right? Did you do 8 posts on March 13th? My computer is about to explode! Bea ------------------------------ From: "Jean Eger" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:30:54 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13893] paper charset="iso-8859-1" Speaking of paper, I ordered a wide variety of paper from Baren Mall and printed a small print on a sample of all of it. I was disappointed that the Torinoko tended to stick to the block while the rest of them came off OK. I was using methylcellulose which April recommends. However, it does not seem to work well for me, so I may go back to using plain old rice paste. It's too bad I can't go to her workshop this year at Kala and get some pointers. Jean Eger Womack http://www.jeaneger.com ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:35:21 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13894] Forgotten my Name??? Dave wrote..... >Graham wrote: >> I was hoping a member from Japan would have some experience. I was not referring to you in that response post to Maria. Hell everybody knows your the God Father. Memory fails me just know but I think there are three baren member artists in Japan that are highly qualified printmakers. It was these people I had in mind and thought could respond to my concerns re paper. >Forgotten my name, Graham? A while back you referred to me as 'that guy >in Tokyo' ... I have checked back in my file of Eudora which has every e-mail sent since June 28th 1999 cannot find the phrase 'that guy in Tokyo' Hummmmmmmmmm >It seems that you've forgotten some of the basic things >your mother taught you (or should have taught you). Did you feel that Dave..... my mom just turned over in her grave. Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:42:01 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13895] Re: Fw: White line woodcuts Welcome a board Connie. Very interesting imagery... Seeing the sparkle of white line it enough to entice a person away for the difficulty of kiss register. There is such a fresh feeling to white line... Graham ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:43:32 -0800 Subject: [Baren 13896] Re: Paper alternatives.... Can you tell us what kind of paper it is you do this with. Sounds like Shin Torinoko would be deserving of this method. Graham ------------------------------ From: GWohlken Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:30:09 +0000 Subject: [Baren 13898] Re: Baren Digest New "Who Is Baren" member We have added Deborah Steytler to the "Who Is Baren" page. Go have a look. http://www.barenforum.org/who_b.html Gayle/Burton, Ohio ------------------------------ From: Lynita Shimizu Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 13899] Yamaguchi Paper I planned to postpone my final verdict on the new batch of Yamaguchi paper until I could print my next edition (next week?), but as the discussion seems to be peaking now, I'll give my present impression. I was quite satisfied with my order from Yamaguchi-san last summer, and after doing a proof on one sheet of the new order, think it will also be fine. I did notice that the new order, in addition to having slightly less dosa on it, is also whiter than the summer order. Previously, I requested unbleached paper so am guessing this is the difference? (Dave, how does Yamaguchi-san actually whiten the paper?) In the summer order, there were variations in the sizing ... some was a bit heavy, but not enough to bother the color absorption; there even seemed to be some variation in paper thickness at times. Perhaps I have a strange way of viewing things, but I really enjoy these slight variations --- evidence of the human touch, I guess. The issues are not enough to effect my printing, but enough to let me know that there is a real person making this paper. By knowing and feeling that human element, I gain respect for the paper and feel even more privileged to be part of the process. Maybe that sounds a bit corny, but the reality of my actual feelings are even worse. ;-) Anyway, I plan to continue to using the Yamaguchi paper and hope he will be able to continue making it for a long time. Lynita ------------------------------ From: GWohlken Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:53:34 +0000 Subject: [Baren 13900] Re: Baren Digest v14 Oops I meant to mention, Debrah Steytler is the last picture on "Who Is Baren" http://www.barenforum.org/who_b.html Gayle ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest v14 #1356 *****************************