Baren Digest               Monday, 26 March 2001       Volume 14 : Number 1369


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From: Aqua4tis@aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:34:17 EST
Subject: [Baren 14036] Re: Dinh Luc 

barbara   
   do you have to soak this black paper?
just curious
georga

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From: Studio Dalwood <severn@acay.com.au>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:09:11 +1000
Subject: [Baren 14037] Black Paper 

Hi Barbara

I too will recommend Black Rives BFK - yummy enough to eat
but you do neeed a press. 

ANother way of getting the carved line to print black is to
underprint the image with a plain black block-sized area on
the white paper, and then print the block in white over the
top, the carved areas show as black and you still have white
margins.

Josephine


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From: Studio Dalwood <severn@acay.com.au>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:30:26 +1000
Subject: [Baren 14038] Exchange feedback 

Hi All

I'm looking at #8 as I write. Particularly interested in
seeing the work of members whose work is new to me.

Dave, I'll address this to you as boss honcho, what sort of
response do you get from the comments section of the
exchange gallery?  My impression is that there is not much
response and what there is, tends to be of the 'loved your
print' nature. Is this correct? I seem to remember someone
calling these Pollyanna posts. 

The question of feedback and critical analysis is something
we have been discussing at PA behind the scenes, which is
why I'm asking. Though positive feedback is welcomed we
would like to set up a means whereby people can obtain
constructive criticism as well. If members are reluctant to
be critical, there seems little point in setting up a
feedback system. Knowing the ease with which a post can be
misinterpreted you can understand why.

 The alternative would seem to be to bring in an outside
'expert' to judge. And there are a lot if inherent problems
with this idea too. Just curious to know what your
experiences and opinions are on this.

Josephine



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From: David Bull <davebull@woodblock.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:06:20 +0900
Subject: [Baren 14039] Re: Exchange Feedback ... 

Josephine wrote:
> Dave, I'll address this to you as boss honcho, what sort of
> response do you get from the comments section of the
> exchange gallery?  My impression is that there is not much
> response and what there is, tends to be of the 'loved your
> print' nature. Is this correct?

'Boss honcho'?  Not any more Josephine ... now just 'one among many' ...

But I _am_ the person to ask this question of, because I do make those
web pages, and do see the results. Or I should say, 'did' see the
results, because this time around I've changed it a bit.

For just over a year now, the exchange gallery pages have carried
feedback forms. These have been of two types: private and public. When
exchange participants sent in the info on their print, they also replied
to the question 'Keep exchange feedback private?'. When I constructed
each page in the gallery, I adjusted the HTML code to send the feedback
comments directly to each artist. In addition, for those people who
allowed the feedback to be public, my own mail address was also included
in the code, and copies thus came to me also. When I saw interesting and
useful comments, I went back and added them to the page.

It seemed to work well at first, but as you mention, recently there has
not been much response ... in fact almost nothing for the most recent
exchanges.

So this time I amended the procedure, and made every page a 'private'
page. All the feedback forms in the Exchange #8 pages send the result
directly to the individual artist. Nothing comes to me, and indeed, I
don't even know that feedback has been sent. It is completely private
between the sender and the artist.

If the person offering feedback includes their email address on the form
(this is optional, actually), then a private conversation can develop. 

I don't know that we can do much more than this to encourage
constructive criticism. The mechanism is in place ... how it is used is
up to group members at large.

Dave

(Note: our web hosting company has also made an 'upgrade' to the server
software recently - necessitated by new levels of spam protection - and
this has 'broken' some of the code on the older exchange pages. Some of
those feedback forms will no longer work ...)


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From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:56:21 +0200
Subject: [Baren 14040] trip to us and workshop 

Dear fellow baren members,

I am in the moment preparing for a trip to the US. I will stay in NY for
some days and then drive to Boston to hold a workshop at the school of
the museum of fine art.
I will leave on the 27th and be in the US until the 12th of april.
If the laptop works in the US as it does here I should be online during
the trip too.
Therefor ot would be possible to arrange a meeting with all baren
members who live not too far from NY or Boston.
The workshop will be about my printmaking technique and the experiences
I had during my 4 years stay in Japan.

Looking forward to meet you,

michael schneider

Vienna / Austria

If you have not seen some of my work until now, visit:

http://www.t0.or.at/~mikasch


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From: B E Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:26:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 14041] Re: Dinh Luc 

well,
For lino block you get a better sharper print on dry paper, but 
damp paper pulls off more ink, so I guess it is choice. I think 
when you are printing more than once on the same paper is is 
always a problem to keep the moisture content of the paper the 
same for a long time of printing. Dry paper is easier.Damp paper 
is doable with more effort.
Barbara


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From: "Garth Hammond" <Garthart@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:35:49 -0700
Subject: [Baren 14042] Re: Exchange feedback

Josephine,
I like the idea of a feedback system.  The level of maturity and education
needed to give good feedback is pretty daunting.  I am a "classically"
trained draughtsman (At Student League etc)and I would be very hesitant to
try to give feed back to anyone doing abstract work.  So someone will have
work cut out for them in a process such as you are dicussing.  It might
force me to finsih my web site so i could play too.

Garth



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From: Legreenart@cs.com
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:45:29 EST
Subject: [Baren 14043] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1368 

Dear Snake participants, 
       Do I win the laggard award. Thr fifth color has been printed, the 
snakes have been nestedin addressed envelopes, and they will be slithering 
down the mail chute in the A.m. Many struggles are ending this week... I 
found an 83 olds to replace my rear ended 87, have a short term but fully 
salatied job, and am getting the prints in the mail.

Yours, 
Le Green
Stonemetal Press
Email: legreenart@cs.com
Website:  www.stonemetalpress.homepage.com



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From: Gerald Soworka <chockings@dingoblue.net.au>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:36:03 +1100
Subject: [Baren 14044] Re: help Black stonehenge 


I recently had the opposite problem to barbara, printing white on black,
but wanting the ink(oil-based) to stay on the surface. Made the mistake
of switching to black stonehenge after several successful editions on
vellin arches - by  the time the ink dried it had nearly all soaked into
the paper.

In short the black stonehenge should suit you well, barbara. It does
bleed profusely if you wet it, so beware.
Gerald
- --
Stewart House Artist in Residence Program web site
http://artist.batcave.net
applications for 2002 close 30th November, 2001
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From: April Vollmer <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:34:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 14045] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1365 

Bridgit Henry, I don't have your phone number! i'll be
in Santa Cruz tomorrow, Tuesday, March 25 and would
like to make a date. Would you e-mail me your phone
number? (april@aprilvollmer.com)

I just finished a fabulous class ( if I do say so
myself) at Josephine Press in Santa Monica. It was a
class of 10 and each student made a hanga print.
Tomorrow I plan to see the japanese print show at
LACMA, and then go over to Bea's for tea! We'll see if
we can have a Baren reunion on the west coast. 

It is beautiful here, sunny and spring. The air is
scented with flowers, even along the freeways. The
city of traffic and movies, but great gardens, too.



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From: Gerald Soworka <chockings@dingoblue.net.au>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:36:03 +1100
Subject: [Baren 14046] Re: help Black stonehenge 

I recently had the opposite problem to barbara, printing white on black,
but wanting the ink(oil-based) to stay on the surface. Made the mistake
of switching to black stonehenge after several successful editions on
vellin arches - by  the time the ink dried it had nearly all soaked into
the paper.

In short the black stonehenge should suit you well, barbara. It does
bleed profusely if you wet it, so beware.
Gerald
- --
Stewart House Artist in Residence Program web site
http://artist.batcave.net
applications for 2002 close 30th November, 2001
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