Baren Digest               Tuesday, 27 March 2001       Volume 14 : Number 1370


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From: Legreenart@cs.com
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:45:29 EST
Subject: [Baren 14047] Re: Baren Digest v14 #1368 

Dear Snake participants, 
       Do I win the laggard award. Thr fifth color has been printed, the 
snakes have been nestedin addressed envelopes, and they will be slithering 
down the mail chute in the A.m. Many struggles are ending this week... I 
found an 83 olds to replace my rear ended 87, have a short term but fully 
salatied job, and am getting the prints in the mail.

Yours, 
Le Green
Stonemetal Press
Email: legreenart@cs.com
Website:  www.stonemetalpress.homepage.com

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:54:05 EST
Subject: [Baren 14048] some lovely work 

Hi all, warning, non-woodblock related stuff!!  For all those in the New York 
City area, there's a lovely show up of paintings (oil and watercolor) in 
Brooklyn.  It's called "Brooklyn by Night", the artist's name is Tom Keough.  
He captures the type of light on Brooklyn streets at night and twilight so 
beautifully, check it out if you can.  The show's at BCUE Gallery in 
Brooklyn, at the Tennis House in Prospect Park, nearest train is the F train 
to 7th avenue.  Gallery hours - 12-5 pm, Saturday and Sundays, show is up til 
June 3.  Phone no is 718-788-8500.

best wishes
Sarah

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From: "Andy English" <a.english@virgin.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:40:24 +0100
Subject: [Baren 14049] At last - the new site 

Some of you will have had previews, but the latest draft of the new site is
now complete and so I will mention it to a wider audience. I am sure there
are still bugs to iron out, but it is more or less there. The main
difference is that the gallery is much larger and includes many more of my
wood engravings arranged in "series". Please be aware that these are small,
black and white endgrain things. I am cutting sidegrain now for the first
time in 30 years but they are not fit for polite society yet.

www.andyenglish.co.uk

Very best wishes, as always,

Andy

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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter@NNU.Edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:46:51 -0700
Subject: [Baren 14050] Re: Input from critique form 

I actually didn't know that I could send in info about the print (as 
others did) since this is my first exchange. I learned a few things I 
guess. This is actually a double self-portrait from a design for a 2' x 3'
block I started working on about 6 years back. I still haven't finished 
the big block (which is only in black) but shrank this down to the right 
size for the exchange and then added the second color.  The term is 
aramaic for "be loosed". It is a biblical reference and I am using the 
idea that we all have the ability to loose ourselves from whatever bonds 
we may have (or perceive we have). It is only when we make the decision to 
be rid of these things that there will be suffiecient power for that to 
happen. Glad you enjoy it.

><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><
Prof. Tyrus Clutter
Director of Friesen Art Galleries
Dept. of Art & Music
Northwest Nazarene University
623 Holly St.
Nampa, Idaho  83686
TRClutter@NNU.edu
(208) 467-8398

>>> Gayle Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com> 03/25/01 06:59AM >>>
Below is the result of your feedback form.
It was submitted by blueman@pantek.com (Gayle Wohlken) on: Sunday, March, 
25, 2001 at 08:59:57
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Praise:  Intriguing subject, good design=20

Suggestions:  Wish you had told us something about it

Comments:  A print that invites a second look

Submit:  Submit comments to the artist

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From: "Daniel L. Dew" <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:44:58 -0500
Subject: [Baren 14051] Two dumb questions  

Hello folks, two dumb questions:

- - Why damp paper?  Couldn't you achieve a very similar effect to the white
line printing or hanga even with a god quality dry paper?

- - I register using two round holes/pegs, works perfect for me.  If the print
is 5" x 8" image size and the paper is 11" x 15", should the holes or can
the holes be visible or should I trim the paper to "get rid of" the holes?

dan dew

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From: ReadDevine@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:51:20 EST
Subject: [Baren 14052] Re: At last - the new site 

Your work is exquisite! My childen will be late for school now because I 
couldnt tear myself away from your site - a very good one to read and 
navigate by the way.
Blessings,
Mellissa Read-Devine
Sydney, Oz
depicture@excite.com
www.depicture.bigstep.com

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From: Ray Hudson <rhudson@together.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:49:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 14053] Andy English site 

Andy--your site is wonderful.   I remember how thrilled I was with
"Double Self-Portrait with Hat" when it arrived as part of Exchange #
4.  (Check it out in the Baren exchange gallery.)  And I loved the
Fashion of the Year snake engraving.  Your work shows another apsect of
the marvels of wood.  I look forward to seeing your next venture with
side-grain.  thanks for alerting us to the site.
Ray Hudson

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From: Kris Alder <krisalder@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:33:19 -0700
Subject: [Baren 14054] RE: Two dumb questions 

Dan:  
Why damp paper?...Damp paper grabs the ink "better" than dry paper in most 
cases, at least if you're talking about the heavier papers such as Rives BFK.  
It also contributes to embossed effects in the print without having to use 
extra pressure.

Yes, please, trim the holes off of your print...if you are going to use holes 
for registration, always allow yourself the little bit extra length so you can 
trim the paper later and maintain the borders you had planned.  If you are 
doing a "full-bleed" print (no borders)then just allow yourself the tag-end 
for the holes and trim it back to the edge of the print.

Anybody else want to chime in here?

Oh, Lee, I'm not sure you get the slacker award yet...I still have one more 
bunch of snakes to get stuffed into the mail bag...

Kris


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Kristine Alder  
Printmaker/Art Educator/Book Artist
Logan, UT  email: krisalder@cc.usu.edu
                  imakeprints@hotmail.com
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From: amoss@mindspring.com (John Amoss)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:38:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baren 14055] Re: Two dumb questions  

Dan Dew asked:
>- Why damp paper?  Couldn't you achieve a very similar effect to the white
>line printing or hanga even with a god quality dry paper?

Not a dumb question at all, Dan- I'll try my best whack:

If you print water-based inks onto dry paper, it will usually buckle badly
because of the localized water application. This is a result of some paper
fibers expanding after soaking up moisture while the dry areas remain
uneffected. The damp paper has to expand somewhere, so it bows out. I'm
sure you are familiar with what happens after spilling a drop of water on
tracing paper. Anyway, this buckling is a devil with color registration.

If you dampen the paper beforehand, the water introduced into the paper
during printing is not localized and therefore has a lot less chance to
buckle. However, too much water and the paper will not accept any ink- so
it is a fine line. Sometimes if the printing naturally uses a lot of watery
ink, its recommended that you place blotters or newpaper between sheets to
evenly soak up moisture. It also helps to wait a while until overprinting
the same areas and also not to place sheets perfectly on top of eachother.
If you do, the moisture will not spread evenly thoughout the stack.

Another reason is that the dampening softens the paper so that it is easier
to allow for contact with the blocks. My theory is that it is acts like a
damp sponge which will pick up water more readily than a bone-dry one will.

OK guys, any additional reasons that I forgot to mention?

As for question #2, sorry, I can't help you.

- -John




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From: Jim Bryant <Jim.Bryant@enmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:50:13 -0700
Subject: [Baren 14056] Re: Two dumb questions 

Tear off the holes, it'll look better.

jim-

<snip>
>- I register using two round holes/pegs, works perfect for me.  If the print
>is 5" x 8" image size and the paper is 11" x 15", should the holes or can
>the holes be visible or should I trim the paper to "get rid of" the holes?
>
>dan dew

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From: B E Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:53:27 -0800
Subject: [Baren 14057] Re: Two dumb questions 

Dan,
Damp paper takes ink better and will not change size if more 
dampness is added, a problem dry paper has. Where did you get the 
paper from God??? Even God would need to use damp paper with hanga.

If you use the registration method with pegs and holes, you might 
want to reinforce the holes first if printing many colors so they 
do not distort and trim the paper after printing to get rid of 
the holes. If you want to use 11x15 paper, use old film to punch 
the holes in and carefully tape the film to the back of the paper 
with artist's tape, then you can remove the tape and film after 
you are through printing and your holes go with the film.

The kento system works as well, it is what I use, but Wanda uses 
the holes. I am just too lazy to make all those holes.
Barbara

Daniel L. Dew wrote:


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From: "Garth Hammond" <Garthart@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:07:56 -0700
Subject: [Baren 14058] About paper tearing 

I have a question.  Do you tear your paper for the "deckled" look or cut it
with a paper cutter?  I was taught by a master printer and he insists that
tearing is the only way and that the Gods will call down the wrath of the
paper inspectors if the edge is not authentic.

Garth

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From: B E Mason <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:54:41 -0800
Subject: [Baren 14059] Re: About paper tearing 

Garth,
I was taught this also, but now I do what I want, because it is 
my print. Sometimes I cut it and sometimes I tear it. If I am 
using a Kento registration, cutting it is really important to get 
a sharp corner. With other registration methods it is not as 
important.

So my advise is do what you want.....just write everything down 
on the back of the print, the paper, the ink and any edition 
information. This information is way more important that the 
deckel, real or fake.
Barbara


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