Baren Digest Saturday, 28 April 2001 Volume 15 : Number 1403 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:25:07 EDT Subject: [Baren 14268] Re: The Rev. Barry Moser Is it that hard to use transfer paper? It is not toxic and you do not have to go to a zerox machine. It might take a few more minutes but so does going out to get a zerox transfer? I use that stuff tole painters use to transfer images and it works fine, Seral it is called. And if you want a revers image revers it on the computer and than it will come out the way you want. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: khackenm@bmtc.net Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:18:24 CT Subject: [Baren 14269] Re: Baren Digest v15 #1400 Hi All, I have a friend in Saudia Arabia who is trying to put together a print portfolio of artists in the middle eastern countries. He's having some difficulty locating printmakers. If any of you out there qualify or know of someone who would be interested, please contact Matt at: Thanks, Karla Hackenmiller ------------------------------ From: barebonesart Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:26:20 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14270] Re: Baren Digest v15 #1402 It has been with a great deal of interest that I've read all this about transferring images via xerox copies. That seems like a lot of work to me, not to mention quite toxic unless you do it the gum-arabic-roll-up-way that someone recommended, which I have never had success with. I have transferred images by pulling a print from my key block, then immediately burnish that print onto another block. In essence, this is making your second block a counter-proof. Let the ink dry and then carve the second block. It is always in perfect register. Now, I must confess, I haven't done this with hanga, so maybe the watercolor ink won't transfer to the wood? If that's the case, I think the waterbase western print inks would work, but whether it would make a difference in the final hanga process - I don't know. Has anyone else had experience doing this with the hanga ingredients? Sharri ------------------------------ From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:50:49 EDT Subject: [Baren 14271] a block with tools - thoughts from a beginner oh me oh my I found that cheap set of carving tools my husband bought at of all places a gun show and gave to me. amazing how different they are from a speedo set of red handled jobbies. I am busy making a mess. My knuckles hurt. i found the tool i thought would make a nice fine line makes a big gouge and I found the one that will make a fine line. The design I put on the plate is gone! it is going where it will. Good thing I am that kind of artist, I take it where it wants to go. I found that it is fun to carve in the grain to make it the same type of image and yet let it change. It may be a big mess when i finish, but I learned a lot in 10 minutes with a handful of tools and there is always the other side of the block, thank you. No corrections here ooops if I slip it just became part of the image, hmm maybe an area I can cut out? I think this will happen for me, I do not give up easily. I have a new awareness and a new respect for all of you out there carving your little souls out. I need a better lamp or a stronger lightbulb so I can see this thing as I cut away on it. I need to start over, but i want to finish this and see what I get. thoughts from a beginner. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:52:36 EDT Subject: [Baren 14272] "man" size prints and transfer methods Alan, as for "man size" prints please refer to Ms. Maria Arango's website and you'll see that us girls can handle big printing here!! (I have printed up to about 32" x 40" by hand w/a baren myself). As for transfer method for a larger print (or any size print for that matter), I happen to like using tracing paper (which can be bought in a variety of sizes, or pieces tape together for the size you need) to trace the image, I then flip it over and transfer using carbon paper. Of course, this could involve a lot of work if your images are quite complex, but I do find this to be a very accurate method of transfer, and of course you only need to transfer the information you need for each particular block if you are transfering to a number of blocks. just my two cents ! Sarah ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:33:02 EDT Subject: [Baren 14273] Re: "man" size prints and transfer methods would depend on how much detail you want on a transfer i have used a number of tranfser methods. xerox with laquar thinner is rather toxic so you can do it out side besides the toxisicity one draw back is that it bleeds if you use too much and some xerox's don't work eather. I have drawn using carbon but that can leave marks on the block. also does not give much detail. The best method i have used is takinging your xerox and using gum arabic, a wet sponge, and oil based printers ink. You will have to weight a few days for the ink to dry. Basically what you are doing is a paper lithio and you can get all of the details of the origianal. It works best with a printing press but can be done by hand. If you have any problem with it please contact me. It might not work well for color registration as the paper expands when it gets wet. I you print in the japanese manner do the secondary blocks in that manner (i have never done it that way) but if you use oil based ink you can print your key block on mylar and offset that on the next blocks for your secondary color blocks. I want to learn how to do the Japanese method of printing just to see if it give me additional insight into printmaking. I have been an wood engraver mostly up until this year but am working on two artist books and the sixe is larger than wood engraving blocks normally come in and the cost would also be prohibitave. I wood engraving 8" by 10" is huge lol. Wood engraving blocks are printed with oil based ink. so i have been using this for the last 25 years or so. a bit hard to teach an old dog new tricks. p. s. I have been enjoying reading the baren e-mail John Center ------------------------------ From: "Robert" Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:10:43 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14274] Re: "man" size prints and transfer methods charset="iso-8859-1" Have you tried the ChartPac blender marker? It is very toxic but with a fan on low and an open window it works better than any other method. You can control exactly where you want the transfer, it has a pointed end and a flat side. I use a bone folder to rub it down, again, control... Works best with day old Xerox or you end up with "strings". Robert We are having a "works on Paper show in Dec. I will post it on my web site. Would love to have some works from the group. http://robertcanagagallery.com ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest v15 #1403 *****************************