Baren Digest Sunday, 29 April 2001 Volume 15 : Number 1404 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:14:39 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14275] transfering images/woman size woodcuts hello to bareners-much like Sharri has told us i also use a simple transfer method for european style woodcuts and lino with oil base inks and that is to roll up your block and print it on a sheet of wax paper this can be burnished to another block resulting in a very clear identical image. let the ink dry and carve it. transfer to as many blocks as needed, using new wax paper each time. the wax resists the ink, making it jump on to the new block quite readily . of course, one is limited as to size- with rolls of wax paper , but you could tape a lot of pieces together, i guess and newsprint works almost as well with thorough inking.i dont know how water ink works at this, as i dont use them i have done wax paper transfer for fun with high school art students who visited my studio. we transferred all sorts of animal images from my woodblocks to my van - only problem doing it outside is wind and holding the paper steady.. re-Alan's "mansize" remark-check out the woman size (3'x5') woodcuts on my website this was also done outdoors- by casting my own shadow on a piece of plywood i drew around it with a brush and ink, then carved with a big 1 1/2 " gouge, printed and burnished with a baren i would like to support and thank Wanda for calling Alan on the sexist remark. i agree that it was totally inappropriate and that "figure of speech" excuse got old about thirty years ago....i also think, IMHO, that it IS appropriate for our list coordinator to use the "royal we", when necessary , to weed out this kind of talk.and - thanks to Alan for the apology...gillyin, machias maine usa ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:00:06 -0400 Subject: [Baren 14276] Transfer charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Sharri and Gillyin for sharing your transfer methods,. never thought of using wax paper. For a lovely "nature " treat, try Gillyins web site; http://www.gattowoodcuts.com/meet_the_artist.htm Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: Alan Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14277] Transfer with wax paper. Gillyin wrote..... >the wax resists the ink, making it jump on >to the new block quite readily . of course, one is limited as to size- >with rolls of wax paper , but you could tape a lot of pieces together, Butchers paper is availbale and come quite large... I have seen 24" width. Find a friendly butcher and you can probably get some for a handshake. Have you ever tried this method when working on a peice that has many plates upward to say 8 or 10. I have never got it to work as can't seem to hold registration. >i dont know how water ink works at this, as i dont use them Can't see that water base would work unless one uses a non-creeping agent as used in the photograph business. And then I'm doubt it as it would be difficult to get a transparent ink on the wax paper heavy enough to transfer and show. Alan. How many times does one have to apologies around here to get you to stop the digs. Geesssssss ------------------------------ From: Legreenart@cs.com Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:09:29 EDT Subject: [Baren 14278] Re:xerox transfers Did someone already bring up Oil of wintergreen instead of lacquer thinner etc. for releasing copy machine transfers. They also work better when freshly copied. Yours, Le Green Stonemetal Press Email: legreenart@cs.com ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:35:44 EDT Subject: [Baren 14279] Re:xerox transfers I am alirgic to oil of wintegreen or citricall gum arabic sill works the best anyway Most of the so called green printing materials that were invented to use with oilbased ink give me a nasty head ach. politically correctness if taken to the usual extreame also gives me a headach but i am not going there again anyway john ------------------------------ From: Katherine Pukas Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:13:47 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14280] print exchange (bookmarks) Hi, I found out about a free print exchange (bookmarks), organized by people in Belgium. For information, please visit http://home.tiscalinet.be/printmaking-in-be/pr-in-be/exchange.html Kat ------------------------------ From: "Garth Hammond" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 06:33:30 -0600 Subject: [Baren 14281] Re: transfering images/woman size woodcuts charset="iso-8859-1" RE;....i also think, IMHO, that it IS appropriate for our list coordinator to use the "royal we", when necessary , to weed out this kind of talk.and - thanks to Alan for the apology...gillyin, machias maine usa Beating a dead horse here; however, If you use the Royal we then I want you to identify your source of authority. If you are queen/king then say so and include any agreements that have been made so that other people are included/informed and not ordered from on high. You get better results with honey than with control. I have no idea who or why someone is speaking. I am interested in the how of printmaking. I had no idea Wanda was the arbiter of language usage or what the conventions of reference were/are. In fact and use I support what you (Wanda)are saying. HOWEVER I have seen so much violence perpetrated in the name of righteousness that my gorge rises when I see it even when I "believe" it to be "correct". Process is often more important than being right or winning. that is my belief based on my experience. Why couldn't the "reprimand" have been delivered in private? What was the point of the public display? If you had registered the point in private and Alan had chosen to go opps! and apologize what would have been the difference? If you are "right" then someone must be "wrong" and that breeds discord and stifles creativity. How do we get out of these "bosnias" of the human spirit? Garth ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest v15 #1404 *****************************