Baren Digest Sunday, 17 June 2001 Volume 15 : Number 1458 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:13:41 -0500 Subject: [Baren 14829] Re: giclees advertising & Barensuji contributions 06/16/2001 08:13:37 PM Yes, please, the deadline is near for the July edition of our newsletter. Emphasis on "OUR". COntributions are badly needed as well as perhaps an artist/member interview ?...who wants to interview who ?....don't be shy... I was browsing thru ebay tonight and came upon an item which of course will make us all smile. It is not so much the selling of this "fine" art print that bothers me, but the advertising that goes with it....you be the judge. Darn it...if you are going to make this stuff and pass it off as an original fine art print...the very least you could do is to spell the artist name correctly! - ---snip--- "Abalone Diver" See more photos below! "Abalone Diver" by Outamaro. This Fine Art Print was carefully scanned and printed "Giclee" from the from the 1929 original French publication "L'Illustration". Limited to 100 prints, each print is hand numbered by the master printer and then the files were destroyed. The image is printed on mold-made, 100% cotton rag watercolor paper imported from France. The image size is 11"w X 16"h. The paper size is 15" x 22". Guaranteed to be in mint/new condition. The result is a stunning work, handsome, moody and would look great with any decor. ("Giclee" is the French term for "fine spray". Each giclee print is composed of more than 4 million ink droplets capable of creating in excess of 500 shades of rich color. The end result? Lush and velvety works of art that have texture, density and the look of fine originals, in highly collectible editions of 200 signed and numbered or less. Collectors prize original Giclees because no two are ever exactly the same. This is because it is not a reproduction - each is an original and unique work of art.) (The gallery retail price for this art print is $300.00 It will be sold here with no reserve! Get this investment quality original print now !) url: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1437686228 ------------------------------ From: "bemason" Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:36:02 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14830] Re: giclees advertising & Barensuji contributions Julio, Lets get everyone on the baren to complain to ebay about this, if we don't complain it will keep going on and we will never be able to differentiate between woodblocks and giclees. A campaign to let ebay know... bareners UNITE.!!!! Send ebay a message today! Barbara ------------------------------ From: "bemason" Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:48:14 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14831] Fw: giclee boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0F6A5.A9C6F900" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0F6A5.A9C6F900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Thought this might interest you, I sent a little note to Michael on ebay, the guy selling the giclee....I will let you know what he says about this... Barbara - ----- Original Message ----- From: bemason To: michael@calpots.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: Re: giclee Michael, If work is done in the computer and that is the real work of the artist, designed in the computer, then it is real art work and not a reproduction. This is obviously a woodblock that is reproduced as a giclee. Therefore a reproduction on nice paper. I am very open minded, I am on the board of the Northwest Print council and we are just now accepting digital work into the council as prints, work done in the computer as original computer art work. When people sell giclee's as original prints it hurts printmakers enormously and confuses the public. We are now having to say "original hand pulled print" in order to let people know the prints were actually printed by the artist and not commercially reproduced as your giclees are. Barbara Mason - ----- Original Message ----- From: michael@calpots.com To: bemason Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: Re: giclee Hi, I thought artist were to be opened minded. The shock of the new! And we all thought, how can a can of soup be art? Andy showed us! ...michael bemason wrote: Michael, This is a reproduction, if you think not, you are being taken for a ride! It is a poster on good paper. Barbara Mason Artist/printmaker ------------------------------ From: "bemason" Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:01:46 -0700 Subject: [Baren 14832] Fw: giclee boundary Well, why do we bother to beat our heads against the wall???? Write to Ebay, I am going to, here is Michael's answer...... Barbara - ----- Original Message ----- From: michael@calpots.com "original hand pulled print" ? What is this fancy talk? A print is a reproduction. That's why they call it a print. Just because it is printed by an "artist" does not make it an "original". Michael John Verlangieri ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V15 #1458 *****************************