Baren Digest Sunday, 15 July 2001 Volume 16 : Number 1491 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rudolf Stalder" Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:35:16 -0700 Subject: [Baren 15173] Large print exchange Inf-Board Hi Bareners, the total number of interested participants in the "large print exchange" is now at "21" !!!! The names are listed below. Deadline for announcing interest is 31.07.01. After this date items such as modus, number, print-size, packing, mailing etc. will be addressed, These discussions will occur off-line, but important information will be posted at the Barens-Forum. The URL of the information board of the "large print exchange" is: http://www.rst-art.com/lpe.htm This URL will/can also be found at "Welcome to Print Exchange Central" of Maria Aragno (http://www.printmakingstudio.com/printexchanges.html) Please: if you post important information in regard of the "large print exchange" send a copy to me at . In return I shall pass all important information to the participants using a emailing list. The names so far are: Akemi Ohira Barbara Mason Barbara Patera Bea Gold Daniel Dew Daryl *Dimitris Grammatikopulos *Frank Trueba *Gayle Wohlken Gillyin Gatho Jean Eger Womack Jeanne Norman Chase Juan Guerrero *Julio Rodriguez Maria Arango Medina Kim Patricia *Princess Rashid Raymond L. Hamilton Sharen Linder and Rudolf Stalder ( coordinator ) Rudolf ------------------------------ From: "Mary Kuster" Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:15:12 -0400 Subject: [Baren 15174] Subject: Large print exchange I would also be interested in the large print exchange. Mary Kuster ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:53:58 EDT Subject: [Baren 15175] Re: large-print-exchang Put me down for a large print excange as i work 11" by 17" generally. a larger bundle size would not bother me as i print on a press but i understand the problem for hand printers. I print up to 14 by 20 inch paper. John of the furry press ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:16:07 EDT Subject: [Baren 15176] Re: Large print exchange from furry press i have not been on the puter for ten days or so hope i don't miss the large print excange as i work mostly in a larger size "11 by 17" image size and would love working this big i generally don't work that small now adays only for the excanges from baren and wood engraving network. We in both groups are getting larger memberships it apears thanks to the computers ability to oraganize things. both of these excanges systems work in a different manner. And there are problems with both systems. A question on the size of the excange comes up in both groups and it give me some insight to the discison that i almost missed. In barens it apears to be too small and the wood engravers can be too large esp if you print by hand. another question i would have to ask how many people in baren print by press and how many print by hand? If you are printing by press it takes as much efferet to print 200 copies as some one who prints 30 by hand at least the cutting takes the same leingth of! ! time. lol John of the furry press ------------------------------ From: "Murilo Pereira" Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:54:17 -0300 Subject: [Baren 15177] Re:Wanda Hi, Wanda John wrote: I work "in a larger size "11 by 17" image size ". Sorry for my ignorance but how is this size in centimeters? And what is for you a large size in centimeters? More one thing: I send a message to After five btu I didn't see it published. Am I out? Abra¨os para todos. Murilo, from Florian—polis. ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:32:14 -0700 Subject: [Baren 15178] sizes and presses John (of the Furry Press) I print both by hand and press. Most handmade paper prints have to be done by hand; this is due to the inclusions in many of the handmade papers, which dent the block if I run them through the press. By hand I can vary the pressure accordingly. My press bed is 24" x 36" (an etching press), just big enough to accommodate 22" x 30" or 56 x 76 cm papers, a standard for many European and US paper. Some of my larger prints (30" x 40" or 76 x 106 cm) have to be printed by hand also since the press bed is too small. Either the ball bearing baren or one of my patented (NOT) wooden mushroom barens do the trick. It does take a bit of time, about 10-15 minutes per print, but I love working large and folks at the art festival scene seem to crave those big prints. With either the ball bearing or wooden baren, really it takes more patience than muscle as the trick is to achieve coverage, not so much press hard on the instrument. Having said that, a good deal of sweat is poured during the operation. Rhythmic music helps quite a bit, as does resting every hour or so. I usually peter out after 30 large prints or 5 hours, whichever comes first. I read with admiration about the Japanese master printers cranking out hundreds of prints per day, working 8-10 hours daily. With the press, once everything is set and fine tuned, anyone can crank out 25 small engravings per hour or 15-20 prints (one color) an hour of a modest size. It is a little funny to hear folk talk about getting tired of a print after about 20-30 impressions, only because when I print small engravings the first 20-30 impressions are the "warm-up" period. It is _after_ those first few prints that everything seems to get in synch and a rhythm develops, yielding a consistent effortless edition. A printmaker makes prints. Maria ------------------------------ From: Claude Villeneuve Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:48:40 -0400 Subject: [Baren 15179] Re: sizes and presses Wow Maria you are amazing! I don't know how you can crank so many prints at a time. I must be very slow because even for a simple black and white lino - 16 x 20 inches - I can't print more than about 4-5 per hour... A big etching or dry point (one color) is about 30 minutes to ink and wipe and print... I've been working on some big woodcuts (36" x 48") one color and they take me a good 30 minutes to ink and print with my faithful wooden spoon... What kind of vitamins do you take in the morning? ;-) Claude Aimˇe ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Baren 15180] Re: sizes and presses > A big etching or dry point (one color) is about 30 minutes to ink and > wipe and print... I've been working on some big woodcuts (36" x 48") one > color and they take me a good 30 minutes to ink and print with my > faithful wooden spoon... > > Claude Aimˇe > Undoubtedly! Etchings take much longer. The ball bearing or wood barens are MUCH faster than the spoon; larger area coverage and less "passes" required to get a good impression, as well as less pressure required. I used to print with a spoon also, and with a doorknob, and with a wooden egg... So see, it's not me, I'm normal, really :-) >What kind of vitamins do you take in the > morning? ;-) I take a Southwest US multi-vitamin called "coca-peyote" with my 1/2 gallon of espresso coffee...intravenously. No no no, just kidding! I figure I will run out of energy some day, so I'm getting as much done while the getting's good. CUTPRINTCUTPRINTCUTPRINTCUTPRINT ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V16 #1491 *****************************