Baren Digest               Friday, 10 August 2001       Volume 16 : Number 1516


----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:50:27 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15342] Re: Munakata-Japanese Picasso? 

Kwee,
Was Munakata a contemporary of Picasso? I am not too familiar with his work.
This sounds like a very interesting proposal, I know all European artists
were very influenced by Oriental as well as African art. And the Japanese
must have been influenced by the west a great deal. Coming to grips with
that and wanting to be contemporary, having control of the whole process,
would be interesting in itself. I know all the craftsmen in Japan are
becoming a rarity in the field of woodblock and the expense must be gigantic
for an artist without partonage to   find a carver and a printer. It is no
wonder the artists there decided to do it themselves. Keep us posted on your
thoughts on this.
Barbara

>
> Hi there. This is Kwee Horng from Singapore. I've not been very
> active in contributing to discussions in the forum due to work.
> But I am on leave now for a whole year! I am currently pursuing a
> MA in visual arts by research full-time. I am seriously thinking
> of researching on Munakata and I came across the term 'Japanese
> Picasso' by Sori Yanagi. Maybe a comparative approach to the
> woodblock prints of Munakata and the lino-prints of Picasso might
> be a possible topic. Any comments from anyone is greatly
> appreciated. Eagerly waiting for feedback.
> Thanks.
>



------------------------------

From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:25:30 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15343] Bridget's website 


Bridget, thanks for sharing your website with us, and again, congratulations 
on your success-
best wishes
Sarah


------------------------------

From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:56:43 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15344] Re: Munakata-Japanese Picasso? 

 Barbara,
Munakata died several years ago.    There was a Munakata woodblock exhibit  
and video of him working    at the Japan Society, NY.  I dont think it would 
be an exageration to say he hacked away at the wood, but oh!  the results...
Carol
Irvington, NY

------------------------------

From: "Jean Eger" <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:04:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15345] goma-zuri 

Hi all,
Jan and I have been having a discussion about goma-zuri, the sesame effect.
Does anyone have a picture of it on their web site?  I went looking for the
bee-and-henbane print, I think Julio did it when he was starting out.  It
showed the speckled effect pretty well.
Jean

------------------------------

From: Princess Rashid <prashid@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 14:37:47 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15346] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1509 

Congratulations Jean and Brigette!!!! Also Maria....!!!

I am so proud to be a part of such a talented group. Your successes inspire
me!!

Princess



------------------------------

From: richard stockham <richardjs_2000@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 15347] Re: goma-zuri 

Hiroshi Yoshida talks about goma-zuri in his book. His
print 'portrait of a boy' shows an example of this
effect. You can find this at: 

http://www.hanga.com/landscape/yoshida/images/boy.jpg

Richard Stockham
Birmingham, Alabama

- --- Jean Eger <jeaneger@LanMinds.Com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Jan and I have been having a discussion about
> goma-zuri, the sesame effect.
> Does anyone have a picture of it on their web site? 
> I went looking for the
> bee-and-henbane print, I think Julio did it when he
> was starting out.  It
> showed the speckled effect pretty well.
> Jean
> 



------------------------------

From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:17:41 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15348] Re: Munakata-Japanese Picasso? 

Carol,
Could you find the name of the video? I would like to look for it so I can
see it, maybe the library has it somewhere of I can buy a copy if it is
still available. Maybe the people who made it still have a few.
Barbara

> Barbara,
> Munakata died several years ago.    There was a Munakata woodblock exhibit
> and video of him working    at the Japan Society, NY.  I dont think it
would
> be an exageration to say he hacked away at the wood, but oh!  the
results...
> Carol
> Irvington, NY
>



------------------------------

From: "Charles and Gail Sheffield" <gsheffield@i-55.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:50:27 -0500
Subject: [none]


It wasn't a website, it was a program called 3-D ARCHITECT by
Broderbund.  I gave it to somebody, but don't remember who.  However, it 
was several years old and obsolete--probably wouldn't even run on
Windows 98.  It wasn't real expensive, so I suggest Zac get the most 
recent one--as I recall, I bought mine at Office Depot.

Well, the Sheffields did a really foolish thing in MT--bought a house.  
A little house in a not-so-upscale subdivision, not exactly on the Sims'
level, but hey, it's got a pretty good view.  The sale will probably
close at the end of this month, then we've got to figure out how to get 
rid of the REALLY heavy tobacco smoke smell.  I think we will have to 
rip out the carpet and repaint all the walls.  Now that we can't afford 
furniture, we will move in with a mattress, a coffee pot and a roll of 
toilet paper.



------------------------------

From: "Daniel L. Dew" <ddew0001@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 18:52:30 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15350] Editions 

Is there a standard number of prints in an edition?
I was told by a collector that 50 was the magic number.
50?
Seems like a lot and an antique method of determining value.  Unless you
count them all, who knows if it was less than or more than?

dan dew


------------------------------

From: michael schneider <mikasch@t0.or.at>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:19:47 +0200
Subject: [Baren 15351] Re: Editions 

There is no "standard" number. But 50 is something that seems to be
accepted by dealers, collectors and artists as something of a upper
limit. Everything above looks a bit inflationary.
I usually do 3, sometimes 10, when I got a order of a gallery 50 and
when a company ordered an edition to serve as a present for good
customers I did 100.
Your work and your eye to see when the quality of the print deteriorates
should determine the number of the edition.

michael

"Daniel L. Dew" wrote:
> 
> Is there a standard number of prints in an edition?
> I was told by a collector that 50 was the magic number.
> 50?
> Seems like a lot and an antique method of determining value.  Unless you
> count them all, who knows if it was less than or more than?
> 
> dan dew

------------------------------

From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15352] Re: Editions 

Dan,
There is no magic number. I have friends who think 10 is max and others who
do 200. So it is up to the artist to limit the edition if they so choose and
number them accordingly or to leave the edition open and print them as they
need prints. Most artists increase the size of their editions as they are
able to sell work, but cut it off at the amount they get tired of printing.
So there you go.
Barbara

> Is there a standard number of prints in an edition?
> I was told by a collector that 50 was the magic number.
> 50?
> Seems like a lot and an antique method of determining value.  Unless you
> count them all, who knows if it was less than or more than?
>
> dan dew
>
>



------------------------------

From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:14:38 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15353] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1509 

Bridget,
Congratulations! Wish I was close enough to come to the opening, but I will
be there in spirit!
Barbara
- ----- >
I have been awarded
> the James D. Phelan award in printmaking.  I will be in a show with the
> other two winners in Sept. and Oct. at the Kala Institute in Berkeley, I
> will let you know the exact dates when I find them out and maybe I will
meet
> some of you at the opening.
> sincerely,
> Bridget Henry
> bridgetmaryh@hotmail.com
>

------------------------------

End of Baren Digest V16 #1516
*****************************