Baren Digest Monday, 10 December 2001 Volume 17 : Number 1645 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rudolf Stalder" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 08:09:40 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16386] Large Print Exchange Large Print Exchange: The information-board ( http://www.rst-art.com/lpe.htm ) was up-dated Also, all the new information was emailed to the participants. cut and print, have a good day Rudolf ------------------------------ From: "Rudolf Stalder" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 09:20:33 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16387] Large Print Exchange : email-addresses Large Print Exchange : Emailing the participants of the "Large Print Exchange" the following addresses were refused Bill Wimmer (wlwimmer@home.com) Sharen Linder (slinder@mediaone.net ) Sharri LaPierre (barebonesart@home.com) Please Bill, Sharen and Sharri contact me to clarify best regards Rudolf ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 09:46:00 EST Subject: [Baren 16388] info re virus, PLEASE read asap Hi, folks. I don't think this is a hoax. I had this file in my computer and deleted it. As my cousin's husband below says, maybe I deleted something important and someone is trying to pull a quick one, but I don't think so. My computer is seems to be working OK so far. Just to make sure I wasn't totally getting rid of something I might need, I saved this file to floppy disk -- looks like this warning is for real though. S. Hauser >Don't Worry... Be Happy!! SMILE =) >>This virus supposedly is programmed to activate after being on your C >>drive for a while. Because of the delay in activation, it does not get >>picked up by the anti-virus programs such as McAfee and Norton. No one >>knows how long this virus has been on the system. It is possible that it >>has been around for several months. When it does become active, it will erase all files and >>folders on your hard drive. The virus gets spread when you send out e- >>mails and filters into C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND. >>In order to find this virus, follow the instructions below: >> >>Click on "start" >> >> >>Choose "find" >> >>Choose "files and folders" >> >>Select "find" Select "C drive" >> >>Name of file to search for: SULFNBK.EXE >> >>If you find this file, DO NOT OPEN IT! Select by right clicking on your >>mouse and DELETE it. Then close the window and empty your RECYCLE BIN. The >>good news is that YOU HAVE EIMINATED THE VIRUS ON YOUR COMPUTER. The bad >> >>news is that you have transmitted this virus to anyone you may have sent >>e-mails to in the last month. Thus the reason for this message. I'm truly >>sorry! Please contact everyone in your address book and pass this on >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: "Bill H Ritchie Jr" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 08:33:24 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16390] The market for prints? Bobbi C. wrote: >I'm wondering how the market really is for prints now? . . . Your friendly ITinerant Professor here: My opinion is that the market for prints and other kinds of unique, original, authentic and creative works of art will be flat or fall off in the future. If there's one reason I think this forecast is correct it would be the effort called "art education." My opinion is that artists such as ourselves--late 20th C. people educated by late 19th C. thinkers/teachers (such as myself) were led down the primrose path for too long. We, as students and teachers enjoying one another's comraderie failed to keep up with the idea of commerce. There was, in in the West, a fruitful relationship that lasted about four generations (that' a long time!) when educators could teach many people to buy what THEY produced. It was a cozy relationship, usually fueled by hefty tuition and ecucational fees going to the minority of us who had teaching jobs for 20, 30 or 40 years (guaranteed). What we didn't do was check on the relationship between what we were calling "art" and the larger scheme of things, particularly in the context of global economics, environment, and international relationships. On other parts of the campus, for example, in business schools, law, medicine, engineering, etc. they were noticing the value of what we were producing as artists, a "good feeling" and highly effective communication formula. Music, visual arts, performance could be powerful to drive any other sector's message home--good or bad. While many so-called "fine artists" languished in their comfort zones, teaching their students to spurn money, bookkeeping, Neanderthals, Philistines, etc., as educators they did a disservice. Today, many of the art students who followed this calling, stuck to the straight and narrow pathway of the fine artists, were blind-sided by the ups and downs of the economies of nations and changes in the environment. My name for it is "the result of 100 years of bad art education." Bad may be too hurtful; perhaps misdirected or fragmented would be more kind. Anyway, as long as art education even existed on campuses (the program at the UW where I was a professor was dropped many years ago) it did not engage the issues of ethics, philosophy, professional management and science as much as it should have. Also, the methodologies were limited to what seemed obvious (and still does) and that is that the tangible, hard stuff of the work of art was the final measure of value, comparable to, for example, what kind of paper is used, how difficult is a process, etc. The killer, in my opinion, was born with TV, which made it easier for the promulgation of fake art, replacing human values with the REAL THING. Where were the art educators when TV and videotape emerged as powerful communications devices? Where are the art educators when the Internet arrived, and the WWW offered another channel to compete with the world of trival pursuits, games, porn and bad news? Where are they now? For every report from Baren's list I get at least ten e-mail messages vying for my attention to ways to refinance my home to making my sex life better, chances to make a million dollars a year, etc. So, Bobbi, Yes, there is a market for fine art, but not fine art WORKS that don't work any more. It's still true that sales will occur almost only by face-to-face encounters between artist and the potential owner of a real thing, an authentic work like Maria's, Graham's, Marco's and so on and so forth. There is still a chance. When users of new communications technologies (and this includes a lot of elementary school, middle, high school, continuing education, et. al.) can get 24/7 information on every aspect of art PROCESSES on-line, accurate, timely and networked with the actual people near them whom they can see face to face, then we could work effectively. People will pay for information if it is worth anything to them in proportion to the utility value of the risk they take in spending or investing their resources. Looks like I goofed again--here I am writing a chapter for an online book, and this is a no-no in Web Netiquette. But, you never know, this may be my last signal. Thanks, Bobbi, for asking. - - Bill Bill H. Ritchie, Jr 500 Aloha #105 Seattle WA 98109 (206) 285-0658 mailto:ritchie@seanet.com Professional: www.seanet.com/~ritchie Virtual Gallery and E-Store: www.myartpatron.com First Game Portal: www.artsport.com ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V17 #1645 *****************************