Baren Digest Monday, 10 December 2001 Volume 17 : Number 1646 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diane Tigue" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:51:55 -0600 Subject: [Baren 16391] Re: The market for prints? The market for prints?I agree with you graham. We are carrying on a strong tradition of hand pulled prints in the kansas plains. At the end of the 19th century and well into the 20th a strong group exhisted called the Prairie Print makers. they included Thomas Hart Benton and Berger Sandzen. Much of their work was tied to the land and today you occasionally see one in an "antique shop" for around $300. (not a Sandzen or benton). Sad to say, the tradition has practically died out as far as the public goes. They would rather run out to buy the latest Thomas Kincaid offset complete with glitzy frame job for $700 and brag that they have number 750 out of 3500 made. I am at a local univeristy and their is great prejudice against printmakers in the other disciplines of painting and sculpture because those folks see printmaking as a craft. Sorry for venting - but people need to make prints for the love of it not because it is the road to wealth - the road to enlightenment maybe. Diane ------------------------------ From: Graham Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 09:18:04 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16392] Re: The market for prints? Your friendly ITinerant Professor wrote..... A well defined commentary about ..... >My opinion is that the market for prints and other kinds of unique, >original, authentic and creative works of art will be flat or fall off in >the future. If there's one reason I think this forecast is correct it would >be the effort called "art education." You are right on.... I have been saying this so many times here and every chance I get elswhere. It becomes our lot in life not only to create but to inform. If we do our jobs and are diligent in our creation and the education of it I am confident, no matter how high techy things get that our hands-on-hand-made-real-art will survive and in time flourish again. Will Bill and I be around ... maybe. 10 years for me (approximately) of productivity is not much in the scheme of things. How much time do you figure you have with in your time frame Bill? Diane Tigue wrote..... >"people need to make prints for the love of it not because it is the >road to wealth - the road to enlightenment maybe." Oh darn.... I think I will go and make widgets, thinga-me-bobs or do-hickies. for 20 years I have know that if you.... "Sell to the rich you will eat with the poor. Sell to the poor you will eat with the rich." My defence is... I am a slow learner. Thanks for this Bil and Diane.... nicely defined. Graham PS Sometime I wonder why I spend so much time at this damn computer.... It is posting such as this that make it all worth while and assures I will stay around ------------------------------ From: slinders@attbi.com Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 11:29:07 -0600 Subject: [Baren 16393] Re: Large Print Exchange : email-addresses Hi, Rudolph, All of us on your 'short' list have been involved in the @mediaone> @home Excite- ATT broadband judgement that has had many of us in e-mail H----! We've completely lost many messages. ...And some of us have still not been given a new provider and been re-connected to service. If any of us are back on line we may have the same address substituting @attbi.com> for @home.com> in the address......but I know that as of Thursday Bill still did not have internet. We are thousands of us in this dilemma. And it's hard to remember to change our addresses for these specialized smaller lists and activities. I changed my gospel list address last weekend, but forgot to connect with you. You may need to wait until late in the week, or perhaps again try through the list for Sharri and Bill. Best wishes! Sharen Rudolf Stalder wrote:> > Large Print Exchange: Emailing the participants of the "Large Print Exchange" the following addresses were refused ------------------------------ From: GraphChem@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:40:03 EST Subject: [Baren 16394] Re: Inks.... Robert - If you can provide us with a snail mail address, we'll send you a hard copy of our catalog. As mentioned previously, you can find us online at www.graphicchemical.com. Graphic Chemical is the oldest ink maker for printmaking inks in this country, and has the widest selection of our own inks and inks from other manufacturers. Let us know how we can help. Dean Clark Graphic Chemical & Ink Company ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 10:01:53 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16395] Re: exhibit coming up bemason wrote: > > Finally, after two years of whining and looking for a spot I have arranged a > small exhibit of the Baren exchange prints. We will show only prints done on > woodblocks and mostly those done in the hanga method. This will be in > conjunction with a Japanese festival the Portland Art Museum is having from > June to September. The NW Print Council will show the Baren works in July of > 2002 in the John and Betty Gray Gallery at 922 SW Main St, Portland OR > 97205. So there we go, another little step forward for woodblock. We will Barbara, this is *so* exciting! Be sure to holler if you need any help with this! And it will sure look good on our resumes! Wanda ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:24:17 EST Subject: [Baren 16396] Fwd: SULFNIk.exe apparently HOAX Hi all, sorry about the previous message, apparently the previous message I sent turns out to be a hoax message. Here's a website that tells more about this, and please also read the message following. I apologize for unnecessary worry, etc. http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBMalCode.shtml#sulfnbk S. Hauser ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 10:35:39 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16397] Re: The market for prints? No complaints here, Bill! We need your *educated* viewpoint on these matters! I think your isolation theory of art education is hitting the nail on the head - the difference between art education back in the 60s and now in the 2000's is like night and day. Marylhurst University is one of the schools on the cutting edge of teaching business management of an art career as one of their requirements to getting a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree. A *big* step in the right direction, IMHO. Wanda ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 10:42:18 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16398] Re: Fwd: info re virus, PLEASE read asap Hmmm....until this thing is ferreted out - please do not open *any* attachments that come with *any* e-mails from Baren or Baren members! Especially if you are running any kind of Windows machines. This rascally virus is only affecting PC's - - not Macs. But, to be on the safe side, it is really best not to open any attachments from anyone unless you already know what they are (such as pictures from a well-known friend, etc.) And Sarah, a second e-mail came from you (with an attachent) - so you may have one of these viruses (or both) in your computer. A good anti-virus program on your computer is a *must* these days! Here are a couple of free utilities from symantec to scan and remove the Badtrans & Goner viruses from your system. http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.b@mm.html http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.goner.a@mm.html Wanda ------------------------------ From: "bemason" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 11:09:53 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16399] Re: exhibit coming up > Barbara, this is *so* exciting! Be sure to holler if you need any help with this! > And it will sure look good on our resumes! > Wanda Funny you should ask....how about helping with the demos???? Maybe print an orchid or two??? Take a lesson, never offer! Barbara ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 10:46:29 -1000 Subject: [Baren 16400] Re: Charles Bartlett Exhibit Last week I had the opportunity to view the Charles W. Bartlett exhibit at the Honolulu Academy of Arts. For those of you who may not be familiar with his work, here is a little background. Trained in the Royal Academy in London and the Academie Julian in Paris, the English born artist soon began to travel, producing sketches and watercolors in Holland, Britany, Ceylon, India and Japan. While in Japan, he was approached by the woodblock print publisher Shozaburo Watanabe, and began to produce prints with him. In 1917, he settled in Hawaii, continuing his work with Watanabe, as well as his own printing in intaglio processes and painting in watercolor and oil. He was also instrumental in founding the Honolulu Printmakers association, which is still active today. More information about him can be found at http://www.hanga.com/western/bartlett/, and some of his prints at: http://www.hanga.com/western/bartlett/series1.html and http://www.hanga.com/western/bartlett/series2.html. This is the first major exhibit of his work since a retrospective showing in 1946 after his death. The Academy has drawn on it's own extensive collection of his works, and from private collections to put together a very comprehensive show. There is also a secondary exhibit showing the 29 proofs, one for each color printed, each shown together with the subsequent printing stage, for his woodblock print "Hour of Prayer, India", printed by Watanabe in Japan. The exhibit also displays two of the wooden keyblocks and two of his copper plates from their collection of his blocks and plates. Now, while this exhibit is well worth viewing (I'll be going back), I realize that it is not likely that many Baren members will be in the neighborhood before it closes on January 6. However, all is not lost! The Academy has published a companion catalog to the show, with a good deal of research into the artists life. While it illustrates many of the paintings in the show, more to the point, it is the first publication illustrating the complete (known) works of Charles Bartlett's woodblock and intaglio prints. Titled "A Printmaker in Paradise", it is an obvious addition to the library of anyone interested in Western printmaking, and particularly to those interested in the confluence of Western and Japanese printmaking in the first half of the 20th century. Jack R. ------------------------------ From: Dan Dew Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 15:50:40 -0500 Subject: [Baren 16401] Help To whom should I send a few new images to have them uploaded to my file section? dan dew ------------------------------ From: "Diane Tigue" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:06:26 -0600 Subject: [Baren 16402] Re: The market for prints? Re: [Baren 16390] The market for prints?I'm in the same boat (frere time wise). Figuring arthritus or alzheimer's or breast cancer or some other boobytrap of the human condition will winnow me but in the meantime I'm filling the world with simply gobs of my own blessed mediocrity and loving it. If you can make moolah all the better. Diane ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V17 #1646 *****************************