Baren Digest Monday, 10 December 2001 Volume 17 : Number 1647 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:03:53 EST Subject: [Baren 16403] restoring file If you need to restore the file from my previous email, here's a website that will tell how to do it - again, my extreme apologies http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html S.h. ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:47:23 EST Subject: [Baren 16404] Re: The market for prints? I do my printmaking because i enjoy it. I enjoy trading my art for others because i feel other print makers might enjoy it. and also understand what i am doing. I sell one now and again but if that was all i was doing it i could do painting. Prints are great because you can trade them. It is such a broad one with different styles and methods and no one can know all of them so i always learn things in unexpected places. the marketing is a different problem which i am very weak at. large print is done will be in the mail early this week horses are printed for the list posted on oct 31 hopeing i will be on the list but if not my return address is on the horseie lol dead line on the fireman print is Jan 1, John center john of the furry press ------------------------------ From: "bemason" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:02:49 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16405] Re: Charles Bartlett Exhibit Jack, Please help us get this book, the academy's web site is talking about their current exhibit and it is dated 1996, so no help there. Where can we order it online? Barbara Last week I had the opportunity to view the Charles W. Bartlett exhibit > at the Honolulu Academy of Arts > The Academy has published a companion catalog to the show, with a good > deal of research into the artists life. While it illustrates many of the > paintings in the show, more to the point, it is the first publication > illustrating the complete (known) works of Charles Bartlett's woodblock > and intaglio prints. Titled "A Printmaker in Paradise", it is an obvious > addition to the library of anyone interested in Western printmaking, and > particularly to those interested in the confluence of Western and > Japanese printmaking in the first half of the 20th century. > > Jack R. > > ------------------------------ From: Jack Reisland Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 13:46:18 -1000 Subject: [Baren 16406] Re: Charles Bartlett Exhibit Although the Academy has a new web site (http://www.honoluluacademy.org/), that correctly lists current and upcoming exhibits, I have noticed that their on-line gift shop is not yet up, and that this catalog is not (yet) listed with the usual booksellers. I will call the Academy next week to see how the catalog can be ordered. Jack R. p.s. They also have up an exhibit of Meiji, Taisho and Showa era Japanese prints from their large collection. It's woodblock overload! bemason wrote: > Jack, > Please help us get this book, the academy's web site is talking about their > current exhibit and it is dated 1996, so no help there. Where can we order > it online? > Barbara ------------------------------ From: barebonesart Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 15:56:34 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16407] Re: Baren Digest V17 #1646 Fellow Barenites, As much as I love to read the Baren Digest at the end of the day, it is annoying to read the messages which have not eliminated the entire Digest after them when they were posted. Because I am as guilty of this transgression as the next one, may I suggest that you delete the Digest from your Reply Message before you start writing your two bits worth? That will eliminate the tendency to hit Send and immediately utter "Oh, damn! I forgot to erase -" Just a helpful hint from the Heloise from Hell. About selling prints - especially in this economic market, don't count on it, one way or another. Merchants are saying their business is off 90% and we are kidding ourselves if we think that we won't be affected somewhat. The people with money will continue to buy regardless of the market, but since they only amount to 1% of the total population we can pretty much forget them. Most of my buyers are the middle class folks and they are feeling insecure and holding on to their pennies. Oh well, the last ten years were great! As my sainted, dear Mother used to say, "Hang in there, honey, this too shall pass." My personal thought: print anyway. Print because you love it. Every once in a while do a painting (they sell for more $$ anyway, if you're lucky) and then go back to doing what you love! And meanwhile, educate, educate, educate. Never pass up an opportunity to educate about prints. I am so happy that we are able to exhibit the Baren work at the Northwest Print Council. When the perfect opportunity presented itself, we jumped at the chance. Please, everyone remember to do your print for the Memorial Print Alliance Exhibition and get it to your Council, or to Barbara for Baren, before Feb. 15. If you need a refresher on the details see www.printalliance.org Sharri ------------------------------ From: Rob Brown Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:09:59 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16408] Re: Inks.... >Robert - >If you can provide us with a snail mail address, we'll send you a hard >copy of our catalog. As mentioned previously, you can find us online at >www.graphicchemical.com. Graphic Chemical is the oldest ink maker for >printmaking inks in this country, and has the widest selection of our own >inks and inks from other manufacturers. Let us know how we can help. > >Dean Clark >Graphic Chemical & Ink Company 1939 B Berryamn st. Berkeley CA 94709 thanks ROBERT BROWN - rob@roloplane.com Berkeley CA 510.558.9155 ------------------------------ From: "bemason" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:14:10 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16409] opportunity Everyone, I want to second this plea from Sharri, you only need one print and it can be almost anything, Sarah sent one of her dogs, it must just celebrate one life in any way you wish. Carol Pulin from the Print Alliance used to work at the Library of Congress and also has friends in the Smithsonian...I am not promising anything but this collection will need a permanent home and Carol will find one...so this is an opportunity to be in a very prestigious collection down the road as well as do your bit for the lives lost on 9-11. I think I will send the print I did for my portrait from one of our exchanges. I already have all the plastic holders for the prints. I want 100 prints from us so get going! If you have never sent a print before, do so now. Send the prints to me before February at: Barbara Mason 4440 SW 198th Aloha OR 97007 > Please, everyone remember to do your print for the Memorial Print Alliance > Exhibition and get it to your Council, or to Barbara for Baren, before Feb. > 15. If you need a refresher on the details see www.printalliance.org > > Sharri ------------------------------ From: Rob Brown Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:42:33 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16410] Re: Inks.... Sorry for posting my address... so a follow up on the inks dilemma... these are some links were you can get inks: Barbara wrote: http://www.graphicchemical.com and Daniel Smith in Seattle, http://www.danielsmith.com Both companies have water based ink for relief http://www.waterbasedinks.com Also for hanga print making, there are supplies on the baren mall, http://www.barenforum.org/mall or McClain's printmaking supplies at http://www.imcclains.com So there you go, lots of choices. Maria Arango wrote: http://www.rembrandtgraphicarts.com http://www.printmaking-materials.com and of course, for all your needs ever: http://www.1000woodcuts.com/artsupplies.html Sarah also added: Pearl Paint in San Francisco Sarah, I've been to Pearl and they don't have anything but speedball, same with utrech, and Amsterdam art in Berkeley... So a little about me and what I am doing, I've been doing lino cuts for about seven years now and I'm and starting to make the switch to wood, I have had absolutely no schooling and training as far as my printmaking goes, and I value resources such as this to help me and my art grow. I've been using speedball this whole time, and Graham knocked the nail on the head with "I offer that Speedball is less than respectable in quality. When Frank (the master printer from Tamarind) was here for the week I got a first hand explanation about the stuff and a warning. Don't use it." I was just in my studio doing some printing and I have never battled so hard with ink before, I couldn't get the inks to mix properly I had old tubes, and new tubes off ink and they were all different consistencies... Thank you all and if any of you printmakers in the bay Area ever what to get together, I would love do so... cheers and thanks ROBERT BROWN - rob@roloplane.com Berkeley CA 510.558.9155 ------------------------------ From: "Maria Arango" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:26:43 -0800 Subject: [Baren 16411] print market I will first agree with most of what has been said about the print market but will take some exception about the "let's all join in and wallow in our misery" approach to the future. Yes, let's keep making prints because that is what we love to do, and, absolutely, let's educate the public at every chance we get. Incidentally, for this last task you have to be out there where the public hangs out. On the actual direct-from-the-artist market, this year was a bit down from last year on some shows but not all. Noticeably, the audiences were careful, but see this helps us because they (the affluent) are cautious to make a very large purchase such as a painting in the several-K range, and find the prospect of buying two or three $300 woodcuts much more appealing. The not-so-affluent weren't going to buy art anyway. In a couple of years of doing this thing full-time, building up a mailing-list and weeding out the dinky shows, you too can make a living selling woodcut prints (or any kind of fine prints). Much more so than making paintings or sculptures in the high-end range (3K and up), who were the hardest hit by this economic incertitude. Remember that as the price of art goes up, the collecting audience goes down, as pointed out. As producers of our own multiple original hand-pulled prints, we have a huge advantage over the poster market. I have come to the point that I don't really care what the guy next to me is selling, because I know and the audience will know as soon as I open my mouth, that I sell artist-produced original art. Graham hit the virtual nail on the head when he spoke about the print market having been corrupted by the emergence of expensive offset lithographs. Worse than that, now galleries are carrying and encouraging folks to buy laser prints (smirk here folks, the offset litho people are claiming these laser-things are not "real prints"). The same galleries that carry our woodcuts have a print-deal with most of their painters. I laugh every time that I think about the gallery personnel trying to explain to someone why that golf-scene reproduction is worth more than my woodcut print. But I firmly believe that everyone, that includes the finest collectors and the most unknowing general audience--EVERYONE buys art for the image. Thomas Kinkade understood that very basic point, and hit the hearts of an unknowing America with lovely images. Recent articles in Art in America and Art On Paper emphasized the same point when speaking about how to collect art and the habits of long-time art collectors. Buy art that hits you in the gut. Difference is the knowing collector will buy the good stuff and the unknowing will continue to purchase posters--both will buy something they like. The bottom line is that people buy images, this will never change. And they grow tired of Kinkades and golf-scenes and will always look for, eventually, the different image. The golf-scene dude is doomed, not us artists. So make images, hit your audience in the eyeball with good solid art, then explain to them that the bonus is that they just purchased a fine print. A print will never sell just because it is hand-printed and a chair will never sell because it is hand-crafted--both will sell if the folk holding the wallets like what they see. Make art, make it well; everyone will see the difference. Health to all, Maria <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maria Arango Las Vegas, Nevada, USA http://www.1000woodcuts.com maria@mariarango.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: "April Vollmer" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Baren 16412] Garbage!!! I am getting so much garbage mixed in with my Baren mail I can hardly find the good stuff. (I almost missed Jack's interesting review of the Honolulu show!) I have written several times about sending mail UNFORMATTED and WITHOUT QUOTED MATERIAL, to no avail. Is there any solution to this? It makes my subscription all but unreadable. Thanks, April ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V17 #1647 *****************************