Baren Digest Thursday, 21 February 2002 Volume 18 : Number 1733 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Vollmer" Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:16:19 -0500 Subject: [Baren 17112] no attachments Carol, or whoever, Baren Forum doesn't take attachments! It just comes out in text-code. Keep It Simple! John Amos, sorry not to join you at Southern Graphics, I have a show to work on. It should be great, please write us a report. A. ------------------------------ From: "Jean Eger Womack" Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:17:45 -0800 Subject: [Baren 17113] pictures I get the digest and all I get are yards of gobbldy gook. Carol, couldn't you upload the pictures to the events and activities so those of us who get the digest can see them? Tanks Jean e-mail: jeaneger@jeaneger.com http://www.jeaneger.com ------------------------------ From: Graham Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:53:46 -0800 Subject: [Baren 17114] Re: water based inks Hi DeAnna, Welcome. Certainly the use of water base pigments is not only health safe but a lot easier to clean up after printing. It is however much more challenging and has it own set of problems in terms of application. You want to locate a good source of colourant that are pure pigments in a waterbase dispersant. Simply put, powder pigments premixed in a water base. It is best that any pigments you obtain do not have binders already in them. ... ie. gum arabic. The traditional method to achieve colourants is to purchase powder pigments and mix your own. This is not exactly the fun part of the fun as you require a mortis and pestle to further grind the powder so as to get a smooth creamy consistency of pigment. Some of the powder colours require the use of pure alcohol to assist in getting the powder to mix with water. General the earth colours do not need alcohol assist. Colorants can be purchase from several source... One has already been mentioned in another post. I get mine from a local source in Victoria and the details are on my web site at ... http://www.woodblock.info/bootcamp/materials.html You will notice I have marked 8 colours. With these I can mix any range of colours needed. They are perfect for the task of woodblock printing in the Hanga technique. Mixing colour can be liken to mixing pools of colour for a watercolour. The stronger the colour the more pigment in the water. Adding the binder... rice paste... is a simple matter. By the way don't use methyl cellulose as a binder. I say this because I recall someone on this server indicating it created some sort of a problem... Maybe that person will come let us know what that was. My web page ... http://www.woodblock.info/bootcamp/get-pasted.html gives you a good idea of how much to usel. You will have to practice to get the effect you want. To little paste and the pigment takes on a very texturous look. The right amount and the pigment is smooth and even. On another page you will notice the inking brushes. These are very important tools to insure a proper lay of ink. You can see more about these on my site. http://www.woodblock.info/bootcamp/inkbrush.html This will get you started and should .... and you will.... have more questions just post them here. Regards Graham/Sidney BC An Island in the Pacific Home of the Boot Camp http://woodblock.info >I'm new to the list and relatively new to printmaking. I've worked with oil >based inks but would like to use something more enviornmentally & health >safe. I've been seeing references to water based colors/inks/pigments mixed >with rice paste and would like something more concrete to go on. Could >someone please give me a good reference /source of how you would mix this >kind of ink? >thanks! >dlarson@lincolnplayhouse.com ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:49:22 EST Subject: [Baren 17115] Re: no attachments Thank you. I will do Plan B Carol ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V18 #1733 *****************************