Baren Digest               Saturday, 6 April 2002       Volume 19 : Number 1789


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From: "Dan Sabo" <dan@dansabo.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 08:39:25 -0500
Subject: [Baren 17789] RE: Keith Howard Book 

Don Messic at College of Sante Fe has twelve copies left.  I purchased one
for $42.00 plus shipping - that was on March 6.    At that time I also
informed Graphic Chemical and Renaissance Graphic Arts that there were 12
copies left so I am not sure but they may have bought a few copies since
then.

Contact Don Messic at
Don Messec, Director                 www.printmakingcenter.com
The Printmaking Center               dmessec@csf.edu
The College of Santa Fe              505.473.6564 voice
Santa Fe, NM 87505-7634              505.473.6181 fax

Actually, Dezbah is the person who will take your order so you will probably
get a quicker response if you contact her directly.

Dan Sabo



>Hi folks, anyone know where I can get a hold of Keith Howard's Non-toxic
>Intaglio printmaking book?  The only place I've found it so far is on Amazon
>for $100, which is out of my price range!
>best wishes
>Sarah


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From: "Jean Eger Womack" <jeaneger@jeaneger.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 05:58:44 -0800
Subject: [Baren 17790] Re:   Baren Digest V18 #1788 

Sarah,
You can buy Keith Howard's nontoxic printmaking book directly from Keith himself on the web.
I'll look up the address tonight when I get home.

Jean Eger Womack
e-mail: jeaneger@jeaneger.com
http://www.jeaneger.com


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From: "Dan Sabo" <dan@dansabo.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:03:25 -0500
Subject: [Baren 17791] Re: Keith Howard Book  

Michael,

I don't think Keith Howard is working on a new version of the book
"Non-Toxic Intaglio Printmaking" right now, because I just corresponded with
him and he did not mention it; I did ask him if he was coming out with a new
version.  I was also told by one of the printmaking suppliers that he does
not plan on coming out with a new book, and that he is focusing all of his
time on the upcoming videos.  He says he is working on this new video about
non toxic printmaking you can buy.  So if anyone wants his book "Non-Toxic
Intaglio Printmaking" they need to order it fast from the people I listed in
my previous mail to the baren list, because there are only 12 copies left
(as of March 6 2000), and when they are gone, they are gone.

I have copied and pasted Keith Howard's e-mail to me about his new video
below, which I received from him on Feb 18, 2000.  Of course if anyone has
new information if Mr. Howard really is coming out with a new book, please
let me know because I would like to buy a copy of the new edition myself.

Dan Sabo



>Hi Dan,

>Unfortunately my book sold out BUT I do think that Don Messec
<dmessec@csf.edu>
>still may have some copies left.

>I however do have a new video out that may interest you.

>Information on Keith Howard's new Non-Toxic Intaglio Video

>>TITLE:
>>Keith Howard's
>>Non-Toxic Intaglio
>>Instructional Video
>SERIES ONE:
>Using Du Pont's 'NEW'
>ImagOn(TM) ULTRA
>photopolymer film
>
>LENGHT:
>1 hour 20 minutes
>
>FORMAT:
>VHS and PAL
>
>COST:
>Suggested retail for 1 VHS tape Plus 24 page Companion Manual, US$33.95 plus
>shipping costs of $4.05 Total Cost for one tape $38
>
>EACH VHS AND PAL TAPE INCLUDES a 24 page Companion Booklet with Trouble
>Shooting Guide.
>
>VIDEO CONTENT:
>Introduction -
>2. Making a film Dispenser
>3. Materials for Laminating ImagOn ULTRA to a Copper Plate.
>4. Laminating a Copper Plate
>5. Laminating a Small Copper Plate
>6. Mixing ImagOn Ultra Film Developer
>7. Toner Tusche Wash
>8. Developing the Toner Tusche Plate
>9. Printing the Toner Tusche Plate
>10. Etched Intaglio-Type
>11. Step Test for Etched Intaglio-Type.
>12. Exposing Etched and Non-Etched Intaglio-Type Plates
>13. Developing Etched Intaglio-Type Plates
>14. Mezzo Intaglio-Type
>15. Spit-Bite Intaglio-Type
>16. Layered Intaglio-Type
>17. Wrinkled Intaglio-Type
>18. Clean-Up
>19. Conclusion
>20. Credits
>
>Finish
>
>Ordering Information
>
>Send US$38 (make checks payable to Keith Howard, with return address too:
>
>Keith Howard
>27 Lansdale St.
>Rochester
>NY 14620
>
>Once we have recieved your check we will post you a copy of the video.
>
>PS: Here what one printmakers said about the video!
>
>Hi Keith, I received the video today, thank you so much! bI popped it right
>in the VCR and watched it. It's great...and essential for the ultra Imagon.
>I was trying to laminate the old way and developing for two minutes. So
>thank you for getting it to me right away. The little quickstart manual is
>terrific too...I was prepared to take notes and didn't need to. As usual,
>you have come up with better ways to do things. I guess I need to take a
>workshop every couple of years at least to keep up with the new
>developments. Thanks again, let's keep in touch. Susanne Carmack
>
>
>



>- -----Original Message-----
>From: owner-baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp
>[mailto:owner-baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp]On Behalf Of michael schneider
>Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:20 AM
>To: baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp
>Subject: [Baren 17788] Re: Keith Howard Book
>
>
>As far as I know, he is working on a new version of the book. If you are
>patient enough it might be worthwhile to wait. If you are just looking
>for information about the process, tips and how to do  instructions, you
>can refer to Howard's non toxic printmaking site.
>http://www.mtsu.edu/%7Eart/printmaking/non_toxic.html
>or have a look at:
>http://www.art.cofa.unsw.edu.au/print/ImagonPage/ImagonNotes.html
>
>michael
>vienna/ austria




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From: "Dan Sabo" <dan@dansabo.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:42:03 -0500
Subject: [Baren 17793] Electro Etching 

Hi Charles,

I Don't know of a book in print, but as far as getting cheap copper sulfate
for electro etching copper, I have copied and pasted the below info I
gathered about copper sulfate for etching copper plates below...

Copper sulfate crystals for etching can be purchased at some Veterinary
supply firms for about 50 cents per pound. It comes in 50 pound bags for
about 25 bucks. Vets use it to wash off the hoofs of cows and horses to kill
and prevent fungus. It is also used as a nutritional supplement for cattle.
And for fertilizer. They buy it by the truckload. A fifty pound bag for art
purposes would probably be a lifetime supply for what artists use it for.
Even if you don't use it all it's still cheaper than if you were to buy a
few pounds at ridiculous prices.

I suggest getting it from a vet supply firm which caters to farmers. There
you will not only find the purest grade, but also the cheapest too. This is
food grade copper sulfate.

If you live in the city and the only vet suppliers you can find are in the
country, it's worth the drive, because if you were to have it shipped to you
there are high hazardous shipping fees involved. However, vets buy this
stuff by the truckload so it's cheap. Nice country drive too!

Either check around for vet suppliers In your state for prices, and if you
can't find any suppliers, call one of the main manufacturer of it and ask
them for the number of their vet resellers.

One manufacturer of copper sulfate is Pestell Minerals and Ingredients of
Canada. They import to US vet supply firms. Their number is 519-662-2877. A
US manufacturer is Old Bridge Chemicals Inc. in New Jersey. Their phone
number is 1-800-275-3924.

Don't buy it from a specialty chemical company, they charge too much.

Dan


>In the meantime, I want to try electro-etching. I have visited the various
>websites, and it does not look too complicated. But I was wondering if
>there is a book on the topic anyone can recommend. Suggestions, PLEASE ....
>
>Sorry for being a bit off topic for woodblock prints ... it was Sarah's
>fault ...



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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:44:21 EST
Subject: [Baren 17794] Letter to Editor/Baren 

Greetings,
The following letter is in the Rivertown Enterprise Newspaper today, April 5.

Woodcut artists thankful for $1,400 fundraising effort in Irvington

To the  Editor;
The Barenforum.org printmakers wish to thank all those who supported their 
recent fund-raiser of original woodblock prints to benefit the NYC 
Firefighters 911 Relief Fund. The entire proceeds of $1,400 from the 31 
prints sold have been sent to the fund.

The idea for the fund-raiser was suggested by Barenforum.org printmaker 
member John Center of Chicago.

Thanks also to Lisa Dente of Sunnnyside Federal Bank, The Enterprise, the 
Viewpoint, Irvington Library staff, and the Irvington volunteers who helped 
make this exhibit possible.  

The woodblock prints were shown in the Martucci Room of the Irvington Public 
Library and it was the first display on its national travels.  Other showings 
are planned for Florida, Illinios, and California.

Barenfourum.org is an international group of woodblock printmakers who 
exchange methodology and print critiques via the Internet.

Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY

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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 08:16:30 -0800
Subject: [Baren 17795] chine colle woodblock class 

Bareners,
Even though we have been talking off subject the last few posts, I did go to
the link below and discovered a wonderful woodblock chine colle workshop at
the college of Santa Fe. If I was not going to be in Scotland at this time,
I would sure be in Santa Fe. Maybe someone lives close and can go. Lezle,
this is only one hour's drive from your new home!Click on workshops and
check out Paul Mullowney. I was impressed.

Dave, do you know this man? Is this a worth while class? I am thinking next
year for sure if they offer it again.

www.printmakingcenter.com

Best to all,
Barbara



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From: "Diane Tigue" <dtigue@kscable.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:28:22 -0600
Subject: [Baren 17796] Re: Electro Etching  

Dan - how do you use it.  Do you cut it with water?  Diane
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Sabo" <dan@dansabo.com>
To: <baren@ml.asahi-net.or.jp>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:42 AM
Subject: [Baren 17793] Electro Etching


>...as far as getting cheap copper sulfate
> for electro etching copper, I have copied and pasted the below info I
> gathered about copper sulfate for etching copper plates below...
>
> Copper sulfate crystals for etching can be purchased at some Veterinary
> supply firms for about 50 cents per pound. It comes in 50 pound bags for
> about 25 bucks. Vets use it to wash off the hoofs of cows and horses to kill
> and prevent fungus. It is also used as a nutritional supplement for cattle.
> And for fertilizer. They buy it by the truckload. A fifty pound bag for art
> purposes would probably be a lifetime supply for what artists use it for.
> Even if you don't use it all it's still cheaper than if you were to buy a
> few pounds at ridiculous prices.
>
> I suggest getting it from a vet supply firm which caters to farmers. There
> you will not only find the purest grade, but also the cheapest too. This is
> food grade copper sulfate.
>
> If you live in the city and the only vet suppliers you can find are in the
> country, it's worth the drive, because if you were to have it shipped to you
> there are high hazardous shipping fees involved. However, vets buy this
> stuff by the truckload so it's cheap. Nice country drive too!
>
> Either check around for vet suppliers In your state for prices, and if you
> can't find any suppliers, call one of the main manufacturer of it and ask
> them for the number of their vet resellers.
>
> One manufacturer of copper sulfate is Pestell Minerals and Ingredients of
> Canada. They import to US vet supply firms. Their number is 519-662-2877.

A

> US manufacturer is Old Bridge Chemicals Inc. in New Jersey. Their phone
> number is 1-800-275-3924.
>
> Don't buy it from a specialty chemical company, they charge too much.
>
> Dan
>



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From: "Dan Sabo" <dan@dansabo.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:09:02 -0500
Subject: [Baren 17797] Re: Electro Etching 

Yes, just mix it with warm or boiling water, pour it in slowly and the
crystals will dissolve.  Copper sulfate is not like acid, but if you get it
on your hands it will irritate your skin a bit.  But it is not nearly as
toxic as hydrochloric or nitric acid.


>Dan - how do you use it.  Do you cut it with water?  Diane




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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan@uvic.ca>
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:48:21 -0800
Subject: [none]

Hello, Lynette. Welcome to the group. I had a look at your website, and I 
really like your work. It particularly matches with my taste for botanical 
work. And I like your style an awful lot. You are not so much rendering 
your subject as capturing the bones, the essences of it.

I am impressed by the colors. Your website suggests you are using oil based 
inks for the lino-prints. What band(s) and what types (litho, intaglio, 
relief) inks are you using for the lino-prints? Are you using just the 
palette supplied by the manufacturer, or are you mixing as well? And what 
brand of watercolor paints are you using? Do the oil based inks resist the 
watercolors?

Thanks for the info ......

Cheers ....... Charles

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