Baren Digest Thursday, 27 June 2002 Volume 19 : Number 1878 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: b.patera@att.net Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:12:20 +0000 Subject: [Baren 18490] Juan Guerrero Dear Juan, Your Exchange 13 prints are in the mail. Tried to contact you twice by direct e-mail but both times the message was sent back saying something about an 'illegal alias'(#@%^&* computers). Anyway, sent the prints off yesterday... they were sent by 'air' but don't know how fast that will be. Please let me know when your prints arrive. They are a great set and I know that you will enjoy them. Thanks, Barbara Patera ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:08:26 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18491] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1860 Just got back yesterday from Canada, boot camp and wonderful caring friends, who took in a very wired Marilynn and gave her R and R. So time for business on the second #14 exchange. Since it has been called to my attention that if i call this a refuse exchange it will not include those in the first #14 so to avoid confusion we are having 14a. Everyone is welcome to sign up and if I have too many i will delete from those who signed up last and who are also in the first exchange. I will post the list as son as I wade through this mail and also am recovering from a gift the husband gave me, a nasty spring cold. Since we started forming this group a bit late, I have decided a one week later cut off date is required. I believe #14 is due October 1, so we can make 14a due October 7. Remember same rulse az all exchanges, send postage and if you are late with your prints you may not get the exchange prints. Happy printing. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:58:25 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18492] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1862 A question came through as to whether those participating in exchange 14 and want to also send prints to 14a can send the same print to both. I have no problem with this, I am not in the main exchange. But keep in mind that you may recieve the same print twice. If I recieve no hardy objections we will let you run extra from your plate for the second exchange and enjoy receiving prints. So get busy and sign up for 14a so we have a nice number of prints to exchange. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18493] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1862 Hi, Marilyn. You're so good to do this for us! Even though I'm already 'in' 14, sign me up for 14a! I'll pull enough for however many you get signed up for the 14a exchange. Thanks for taking this on! Mike At 09:58 AM 6/26/2002 -0700, you wrote: >A question came through as to whether those participating in exchange 14 >and want to also send prints to 14a can send the same print to both. I >have no problem with this, I am not in the main exchange. But keep in >mind that you may recieve the same print twice. If I recieve no hardy >objections we will let you run extra from your plate for the second >exchange and enjoy receiving prints. So get busy and sign up for 14a so >we have a nice number of prints to exchange. >Marilynn Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:53:12 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18494] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1860 O.K. Marilynn ... count me in, as per our discussion at Boot Camp. Cheers ...... Charles At 09:08 AM 6/26/02 -0700, you wrote: >Just got back yesterday from Canada, boot camp and wonderful caring >friends, who took in a very wired Marilynn and gave her R and R. So time >for business on the second #14 exchange. Since it has been called to my >attention that if i call this a refuse exchange it will not include those >in the first #14 so to avoid confusion we are having 14a. Everyone is >welcome to sign up and if I have too many i will delete from those who >signed up last and who are also in the first exchange. I will post the >list as son as I wade through this mail and also am recovering from a gift >the husband gave me, a nasty spring cold. Since we started forming this >group a bit late, I have decided a one week later cut off date is >required. I believe #14 is due October 1, so we can make 14a due October >7. Remember same rulse az all exchanges, send postage and if you are late >with your prints you may not get the exchange prints. >Happy printing. >Marilynn > ------------------------------ From: michael schneider Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:57:22 +0200 Subject: [Baren 18495] new page, hanga class Dear Bareners, I have been working on a new version of my page. It is still not finished but at least some new pictures are up. As some of you are not only experts in mokuhan but also in web presentation, I would be glad to hear some critic. I would have loved to participate at a baren convention, but Kansas is far, and time is as short as money. With July 6th starts my class for mokuhanga at the "art didacta" summer school of art in Innsbruck / Austria, if you know people who live near and are interested in participating, tell them. (Two slots are still open, max. number of participants is 10.) It is a 10 days beginners class so baren members would be bored I guess. It is just about how to size the paper, use the tools and do a kento registration. At the end of the class every participant should have finished at least one edition of a multicolored print and be hooked to become a potential baren member. Greetings, michael schneider ------------------------------ From: michael schneider Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:00:51 +0200 Subject: [Baren 18496] new page, hanga class SORRY Sorry I forgot to include the url of the page. http://www.t0.or.at/~mikasch The new page has a link from there, when the page is finished, I will move it to a new location. michael schneider ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:27:10 EDT Subject: [Baren 18497] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1860 I would like to be in 14a as well. I esp. like open exchanges as you will get work closer to what i would be doing unless you are lucky to be close enough to fit in. I would be sending a completly different print as some might be in both exchanges and there would be no need to have two copies of the same print (unless i would like to prove i can in fact edition a print and you would have two copies to compare lol) john of the furrypress john center lpe came today as well as some wood type i got on e-bay need to get a bigger house and art studio. I enjoyed the prints like christmas in june way cool ------------------------------ From: "Eli Griggs" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:50:51 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18498] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1860 Hi there: Marilynn, please count me in on '14a'...and thank you for setting it up. Regards, Eli - ----- Original Message ----- From: "marilynn smih" So time for business on the second #14 exchange. - --- ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:01:33 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18499] Re: new page, hanga class SORRY 06/26/2002 05:03:23 PM Hi Michael, so nice to see your postings again on the Baren. Enjoyed visiting your updated website. Your "rekonstrukction" print from the Skokie exhibit (99') still graces the wall on my family room. Best wishes with your hanga class and printmaking work....Julio Rodriguez ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:01:08 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18500] Pigments for Hanga I know, I know, we've been over this half a dozen times already! But, having used prepared water colors for hanga for six years, I am ready now to experiment with those pigments which April and several others have recommended so highly. Would any of you hanga printers who are mixing your own pigments mind explaining your methods, materials, sources, preparations, etc. one more time so I can give it a try on my next print? That 'greater color saturation' possibility is pretty seductive! Also, I've finally "rebuilt" my pages at http://www.mlyon.com/mike and would appreciate your letting me know whether they seem to 'work' as I've tried some new (to me anyway) stuff there. Not much of the past two years' work has been added yet, but the navigation is very new... Thanks so much! Mike ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:42:40 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18501] shipping from the US to Canada fast This almost sounds like a math question or something, but I need to send a package w/a videotape and some paperwork in it from New York City to a festival in Canada tomorrow (the 27th) and it needs to arrive BY Monday, July 1st. Anyone know what would be the best way to send it to make sure it arrives on time? Global Priority? Express mail? Fedex? You can respond to me offline if that's more appropriate. thanks a lot Sarah ------------------------------ From: "Jean Womack" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:09:11 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18502] Re: Baren Digest V19 #1877 Thanks to everyone for your answer on paper sizing and the front/back issue. Jean ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:55:57 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18503] Re: shipping from the US to Canada fast In my experience, Fedex would be your best bet to be sure it gets there on time. Cheers ....... Charles At 07:42 PM 6/26/02 -0400, you wrote: >This almost sounds like a math question or something, but I need to send a >package w/a videotape and some paperwork in it from New York City to a >festival in Canada tomorrow (the 27th) and it needs to arrive BY Monday, >July 1st. Anyone know what would be the best way to send it to make sure >it arrives on time? Global Priority? Express mail? Fedex? You can >respond to me offline if that's more appropriate. >thanks a lot >Sarah ------------------------------ From: Myron Turner Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:52:23 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18504] Re: Pigments for Hanga Very well done on the design side--neat and tasty, as an old printer friend of mine used to say, and really interesting reading, your bio with the family history. May I make one small suggestion--to center the enlarged versions of your images? Just a thought, since the thumbnails are centered and then when the enlargements appear, I feel my eye being pulled to the left. Myron Turner At 06:01 PM 26/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Also, I've finally "rebuilt" my pages at http://www.mlyon.com/mike and >would appreciate your letting me know whether they seem to 'work' as I've >tried some new (to me anyway) stuff there. Not much of the past two >years' work has been added yet, but the navigation is very new... > >Thanks so much! > >Mike ------------------------------ From: "kate courchaine" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:43:02 +0000 Subject: [Baren 18505] Rough Side/Smooth Side Paper Discussers, This conversation about paper is quite interesting. I have a question: When you are talking about the rough and smooth sides, which one is the 'bottom' or screen facing side in the paper making process? (I usually print on the side that would be the 'top') Regards, Kate C ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:13:30 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18506] Re: Rough Side/Smooth Side Kate, Paper has two sides, the "laid" side which has the screen marks, like little cross hairs, on it and the "felt" side. Most printmakers print on the felt side of the paper. In Japan the felt side is dried against a large board and becomes very smooth. When I was first learning printmaking I used to see people looking at the paper to see which side they were using and I could not tell the difference. I thought they were just teasing us students. However, after so many years it is pretty easy to see it, although with my advanced age here I need good light or my glasses. If you use damp paper, it is easy to mark the "back" of the paper with a small pencil mark while still dry so there is no time lost looking at it and no confusion as to which side to use. Once you start to print, it is pretty obvious which side to use for the next color. If the paper has a watermark, it should be right reading on your print, although occasionally I swear it is on the wrong side of the paper! The water mark is placed in the lower left hand corner of your image, usually in the margin of the paper and not in the image area. Who really cares? I think lots of us just do what we like and do not worry about these "rules". Some one out there will know a lot more than I do about the Japanese papers. I think April Vollmer has a lot to say about Washi on her site and of course the encyclopedia on baren is just full of stuff. I think the sizing usually is on the smooth side, so it would be the felt side. This is harder to see in the Japanese paper for the drying reasons mentioned above. Wa =paper shi= Japanese , thus the word Washi for paper. I think this is right. Best to you, Barbara > Paper Discussers, > This conversation about paper is quite interesting. I have a question: When > you are talking about the rough and smooth sides, which one is the 'bottom' > or screen facing side in the paper making process? (I usually print on the > side that would be the 'top') > Regards, > Kate C ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V19 #1878 *****************************