Baren Digest Sunday, 14 July 2002 Volume 20 : Number 1896 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Lyon Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18715] Re: barenV20- 1894 Carol -- I think it will be OK to use Dr. Atl, so long as you don't show his bone. Mike At 11:30 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Julio, > >If you guys decide to do a "Nude" exchange, would I be allowed to use my >'doppelganger, Dr Atl? Dr Atl is a 13 inch high, articulated, skeleton who >lives in my studio and has inspired a whole series of works: paintings, >lithographs, drawings and magnesium prints for a book. He is, after all, the >"Ultimate Nude. >Serious stuff, folks! Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Louise Cass Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:00:54 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18716] Re: Cases for Exchange 14 At Mike Lyons' suggestion I'm forwarding this to baren list- I just the e-mails I send would appear in their original neat formatting?! I'm adding a bit to the original - is anyone sending prints to the KIWA (2003) exhibition? and has anyone seen their show(s)? And apropos to sending to international shows I've just found out that air mail packages (from Canada, at any rate) can take months to arrive and even Puroletter or Purovac's (very expensive) promised 4 days is not guaranteed because the item COULD be delayed at Customs. This will apply to sending the exchange box to the U.S. as well. What info' have any of the past coordinators re how long things take to arrive from outside the U.S. Up to now I've only used UPS and air freight for paintings going abroad and they've always been quick. Probably the package from the U.S. to Italy got lost at Customs -Post Canada has told me the tracking number when we have one only guarantees insurance if we have it in case of loss - they don't try to find the package at all!! Would also like to know the overall size of Japanese box in the event that it could be placed in our own protective box. Oh yes, and now I can't decide if the smooth or reverse side of these (kozo) papers I use gives a better impression - both side print well after all. I've tried Arches and Rives, etcbut find it has a 'hard' look. Why do so many people use these papers for woodcuts?? >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:10:57 -0400 >To: baren14@yahoogroups.com >From: Louise Cass >Subject: Re: [baren14] Cases for Exchange 14 >In-Reply-To: <007601c22761$93f03860$a7cee00c@attbi.com> >References: <3.0.2.32.20020709112906.00715c34@pop.primus.ca> > > >Barbara, Mike and Darrell- > >Thanks for the info re boxes - they do indeed look nice! I'm assuming I >make up my own package to send to coordinator and the 30 assorted prints >would be sent to me in Japanese box (if I order it) - I'd then be able to >use it for future exchanges, etc. only slight >>problem re cost is of course it'll be more in $Cdn. > >>While I'm writing now I must mention a problem with my printmaking - I >have an interesting new image carved - I should say cut but my technique is pretty >rough and I generally hand colour them (I tried the chine colle, by the way, with >helpful hints from bareners - they were pretty successful in the end but the way I >glued the coloured tissues made the final results too abstract for my vision so >I'm back to hand colouring w. watercolour -) It's going to be a job to produce 31 >prints this way but I note someone else has done it. > >>Back to my problem - since I use a single block I haven't paid any attention to registration >and have trouble with laying the paper evenly enough on the block so don't always get >>perfect margins - as they're matted before framing this doesn't show. Now you bareners >>appear to be very particular re techniques so I'm a bit worried re mine for an exchange. > >As I've mentioned before I'm primarily concerned with painting so don't have unlimited >time to spend on the printmaking but dearly love doing it. As I use the >entire block I can't >use the kento method but will try to set up a kind of 'frame' to lay the >block in for future printing. Any suggestions out there? I should add that >I also enjoy using the variety of beautiful hand made Japanese papers I get >at the Japanese Paper Place >here in Toronto > >- when I trim the prints the nice deckle edge is unfortunately often lost >- - one more question-can I send the 31 prints on varied papers ?- they are >all white kozos and there is very little difference but I have a lot on hand and >don't really want to buy more of just one paper. > > >> Yet another afterthought -I had always chosen to print on the smoother >side but recently tried the reverse after following the discussion re same >and found it took the ink even better. > > >Regards, >Louise Cass > > >At 08:59 AM 7/9/02 -0700, you wrote: >>Louise, >>The cases are $25, this includes the shipping from Japan to the USA and is a >>bargain for the nice box it is, there is a picture of it here >>http://www.barenforum.org/mall/products/exchange_cases.html. >> > >>Best to you, >>Barbara Mason >>Mall manager ------------------------------ From: "Bill and/or Lynda Ritchie" Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:26:34 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18717] Re: Nudeless in Seattle I loved to read what George Jarvis wrote, and his ending, "Evil is in the eye of the beholder." I thought of pantsing* his phrase and guess what I found: Evil is in the *evil* eye of the beholder. With evil on the mind, you can find it almost anywhere. It's a kind of mental illness and I guess there's no cure. Maybe it's not important enough to look for a cure, but if a major pharmaceutical company could think of a drug for it, you'd see change I betcha. In my humble opinion, people who respond negatively to nudity in art shows are not to be blamed; US Americans, that group I'm most familiar with, have thrived on the marketing of fear, anger, greed and guilt. Maybe nudity in pictures is an ideal channel for eliciting these emotions. I read about the marketing based on fear, anger, greed and guilt among seniors in the Wall Street Journal recently. It's a sure thing among marketers who target seniors: Create a need and then fill it. It's an ancient device, and nakedness in public, whether it's in the artform of the word (nudity) or some other, is GREAT when someone wants to keep a tight grip on their hard-won security. People have those "naked in public" dreams, don't they? goes to show how deeply fear, anger, greed and guilt are planted in the psyches of many US American people. Maybe it's an infection all over the world, but how would I know, living in the USA? *PANTSING is pronounced pants-sing, and refers to a popular act when I was in junior high school and hip slinger pants were popular. The style was to wear your pants as low as possible--to that point just above your crack. Then sometimes someone would come up behind and jerk that person's pants down. In extreme pantsings, they'd even pull down the person entirely, pull off their pants and run like h---! if the guy was the bully. It could be very dangerous, however. Also, it was best if there were a lot of girls around. They no longer do pantsings, I think, since the sport advance to MOONING. That's another subject. I wonder what this has to do with baren? Mis-pronounce the word baren a few time, and you'll get it. ------------------------------ From: "April Vollmer" Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:42:05 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18718] RE: Baren Digest V20 #1895 All nudes all the time...funny to hear that is the thought for the new theme. I just started working on some nudes, maybe I could use those blocks. I was inspired by all the Italian bodies. What size? April ------------------------------ From: Sharri LaPierre Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:29:41 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18719] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1895 Mike, My apologies - I was not paying attention. Your message about Colleen's prints was probably in some of those Digests I skimmed and deleted when I got behind with the eek-mail. I will get a print off to you Monday morning. Sharri LaPierre ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V20 #1896 *****************************