Baren Digest Saturday, 27 July 2002 Volume 20 : Number 1908 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Dew Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:39:48 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18799] Re: Question? O.K., I give, what are you talking about? dan dew >Maybe Dan Dew sent in the scans of the print Eddie Kett. He was the >coordinator of that exhibit. >I enjoy your Eddie Ket > >Carol ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:01:56 EDT Subject: [Baren 18800] Re: Question? i believe bea gold created eddie kett ------------------------------ From: "April Vollmer" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:38:08 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18801] RE: Baren Digest V20 #1906 Mike, I think I like the one with wood grain better. I like a woodcut that looks like a woodcut! Of course seeing the actual print should make it look more like a print, since you can see the texture of the paper. I think the difficulty is that the background looks SO woodcut, and the foreground looks SO photographic, they don't quite match. Maybe if the figures were more woodcut-y the grainy background would work better with it. Anyway, I had a technical question about mold. I have been told that if you expose the prints and blotters to air periodically, it will keep mold from starting. So I have been printing one color a day this week, just to keep the prints well-ventilated. Did you expose the prints to air every day or did the mold develop when you left them under plastic for several days running? Also, I forgot to mention a great class I had at the Brookfield Craft Center in CT a few weeks ago. I must thank Baren for an introduction to Kim Shields, a lurker from New Hampshire. She drove five hours to take my class! She had done some very nice oil base reduction cuts, and was thinking of changing to water. I did my best to convert her! I have a photo of us in front of the renovated mill the class was in, who can tell me where to post it? Don't we have a "Baren Activities" page?? best, April www.aprilvollmer.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:17:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18802] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1906 Hi, April... The mold developed as pencil point sized dark spots on the dampest and gluey-est parts of the paper on about 1/3 of the sheets after about six days of printing and leaving them sitting stacked up damp in a black plastic garbage bag. I added formal to my water and the spots faded to gray overnight (I think I killed it). Afterwards, I printed another 8 or 10 days without any change in the now grayish pencil point sized spots. For what it's worth, my experience is that you can easily dry the sheets many times in mid-printing and re-dampen shortly before printing without apparent effect on the prints... After printing was completed, I exposed the dry prints to my UV light source (after checking to be sure that there was no color change) for 5 to 10 minutes hoping to 'kill' any living mold or whatever... the spots were masked by the woodgrain and are no longer apparent... But I won't make the same mistake (leaving untreated wet prints sitting in the dark plastic for a week) again... Mike At 12:38 PM 7/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Anyway, I had a technical question about mold. I have been told that if you >expose the prints and blotters to air periodically, it will keep mold from >starting. So I have been printing one color a day this week, just to keep >the prints well-ventilated. Did you expose the prints to air every day or >did the mold develop when you left them under plastic for several days >running? Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Frank Trueba Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:38:49 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18803] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1906 April, Mike, I've also been told, although I have not had reason to attempt it myself, that if you can't finish a run of printing, you can freeze your paper for a up to a week and simply let it thaw when you're ready to print again (after thawing the paper should be as damp as it was beforehand and ready to print). NB: I haven't tried it myself but been assured it works. frank At 01:17 PM 7/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, April... The mold developed as pencil point sized dark spots on the >dampest and gluey-est parts of the paper on about 1/3 of the sheets after >about six days of printing and leaving them sitting stacked up damp in a >black plastic garbage bag. I added formal to my water and the spots faded >to gray overnight (I think I killed it). Afterwards, I printed another 8 >or 10 days without any change in the now grayish pencil point sized spots. > >For what it's worth, my experience is that you can easily dry the sheets >many times in mid-printing and re-dampen shortly before printing without >apparent effect on the prints... > >After printing was completed, I exposed the dry prints to my UV light >source (after checking to be sure that there was no color change) for 5 to >10 minutes hoping to 'kill' any living mold or whatever... the spots were >masked by the woodgrain and are no longer apparent... But I won't make >the same mistake (leaving untreated wet prints sitting in the dark plastic >for a week) again... > >Mike > >At 12:38 PM 7/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: >>Anyway, I had a technical question about mold. I have been told that if you >>expose the prints and blotters to air periodically, it will keep mold from >>starting. So I have been printing one color a day this week, just to keep >>the prints well-ventilated. Did you expose the prints to air every day or >>did the mold develop when you left them under plastic for several days >>running? > >Mike Lyon >mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com >http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18804] Re: freeze them! 07/26/2002 01:45:27 PM Mike writes: "....after about six days of printing and leaving them sitting stacked up damp in a black plastic garbage bag...." Freeze them ! I found that I can freeze and unfreeze them many times during the week(s) it takes to print an edition....anytime they are going to sit for more than 24hrs..I freeze them. If is less than 24hrs I put them in the regular section of the refrigerator to keep them cool & happy ! Julio ------------------------------ From: "nancy osadchuk" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:22:06 -0600 Subject: [Baren 18805] Hello? I had one of the Klez worms..virus in the spring , I was told my Norton was only good for one year from installation.  Since I reformatted, restored etc..(fortunately almost everything was backed up), and installed a new Norton anti-virus, I have been spared ALL junk mail. Previously my two year old Norton was telling me I was updated,  but not so.  And I kept getting at least one piece of junk mail a day although I had settings to block junk mail. ------------------------------ From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:42:14 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18806] RE: Baren Digest V20 #1907 "Never, never open attachments, sometimes don't even open the email if you do not know the source." Barbara Hi folks: These hack-offs have gotten so good at electronic vandalism that they can now infect through email preview mode; they don't even need to sneak it in with an attachment anymore. If anything can bring down the www and internet it just may be these losers! People wont be able to afford to replace fried parts or lost applications over and over and over and over.... One thing to do is set your email browser to view TEXT only. Do not set it to preview HTML or RICH TEXT this is how they can infiltrate without an attachment. It was in preview mode that an HTML email managed to get around my virus checker last week. The virus was an old one that the checker should have recognized (funlove). My husband had clicked on an obvious spam to delete it and the computer started cranking, it was one of those emails that automatically started opening advertising web page after web page after web page. He thought the checker had caught and eliminated the bug, but no. The next time I turned on the computer it fried to a crisp. This is the second or third time I've been hit and I don't open attachments unless I get a phone call telling me what to look for OR in the case of my sisters, we write each other's nicknames in the subject line of the email. When a virus sends itself out from your address list it can only use names from the list, if you don't put the nickname in the address book it can't send itself with the validation clue. So if you and your friends want to send each other artwork on line, say their are Patricia, Elizabeth and Morgan and your Roger--you could write something like this in the subject line "Tricia, Lizzy and Mo take a look at my new painting-Rog..." Patti P-C ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:23:15 -0700 Subject: [Baren 18807] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1907 I am here at the coast, Nahcotta, Wa. and have been without a phone for 2 days because the sevice was disconnected, they did not recieve our check and gave almost no notice, yikes!!! Colleen Corradi I am leaving for the post office in just a few minutes to mail your #12 print. Being a small town it might take awhile for you to get it. John Center thank you for all your hard work with the firemans prints. I got my set safe and sound and am totally thrilled. This, I think, is the best group of prints I own, thank you everyone. I want to find places to show them as they are so special. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:41:54 EDT Subject: [Baren 18808] Re: KC 2003 Hi Since this is the second time I saw a reference to Watergraph let me put in my 2,4, 6, 8 cents. If you devise your own art technique you can call it whatever you want. Nothing happens to you and it makes people curious. Besides it is great fun. Cannot answer messages because my keyboard is broken. Thats a new one! No coffee, tea or alcohol is responsible! Carol Lyons Irvington, NY ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:38:55 -0500 Subject: [Baren 18809] Re: KC 2003 Just a note to let y'all know I'm out of town for a week starting in the morning... I'll miss you !! - -- Mike mikelyon@mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "April Vollmer" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:59:51 -0400 Subject: [Baren 18810] Where's CC? Mike, I think Colleen Corrado is in NY for the summer, no? Anybody seen her? April www.aprilvollmer.com ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V20 #1908 *****************************