Baren Digest Tuesday, 1 October 2002 Volume 21 : Number 1977 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Baren 19353] RE: Baren Digest V20 #1974 If any of you are William Blake fans...That address I have had way too much information! Try this one instead http://www.blakearchive.org/ and enjoy! ------------------------------ From: "lmhtwb" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:16:48 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19355] Graphic vs DS Inks I see in the new (to me that is) catalogue from Daniel Smith that they now have their own water-based relief inks. Has anyone tried them? If so, how do they compare to the Graphic Chemical inks? Linda ------------------------------ From: GraphChem#aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:22:16 EDT Subject: [Baren 19356] Re: not wood block The simplest answer is that steel was used first, but is very hard to use..hard surface etc., Copper was next on the scene and came in two varieties Yellow and Red. Yellow copper was a little harder, and was preferred by artists for the most part. Copper became almost impossible to get during WW II. It was a vital war materiel, and was rationed. We still have a framed order from one of our customers during the war (or actually just following it) quoting the authorization number for ordering copper. It also has a remarkable drawing on the order, which is why we saved it. That left zinc as the available metal during this time frame. Due to it's cost, it remained popular after copper was off the ration list. We still sell all three metals in both regular (uncoated) and presensitized versions. Dean Clark Graphic Chemical & Ink Company ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:36:11 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19357] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1971 Thanks Marilyn, I was just going to write telling you I'd have to be late. We were gone from Thurs to Tues and came home to a flood. Ugh..... Wood floors popped up all over - nails sticking up and huge fan going day and night. We're coming together and the print is almost done so should have it to you by the 8th. Thanks again, Bea Gold >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: "marilynn smih" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:50 PM >Subject: [Baren 19332] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1971 > >To all 14a contributors, I did extend the arrival date of your prints, at >the very beginning. I gave you until October 8th because I felt we had a >bit later start than the main exchange. so for all who have not finished up >and mailed get busy that is just a short time off. > >Marilynn ------------------------------ From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:18:09 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19358] Re: Graphic vs DS Inks Linda, I think the Graphic Chemical Inks are great. The Dan Smith inks did not work quite as well for me, but it might be the way I work, I like to roll out the ink and at best, waterbased ink is a bit hard to roll out well. I have not used them for Hanga as they do not rewet, meaning that once dry you can not clean them up with water as they are polymer based, so don't let them dry on the rollers or glass, it will be work to get them off. Also they do not mix that well with water, nothing like watercolor. Barbara > I see in the new (to me that is) catalogue from Daniel Smith that they now > have their own water-based relief inks. Has anyone tried them? If so, how > do they compare to the Graphic Chemical inks? > > Linda > ------------------------------ From: Vishnovus#aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:42:51 EDT Subject: [Baren 19359] Re: Graphic vs DS Inks Not enough days in the week. I havent posted in ages.... but thought Id toss in my two cents about the Dan Smith water based inks. much nicer to use and more professional results that water based speedball for example... Just as Barbara mentioned, the DS inks are not suited for traditional hanga., but if you usually use oil based ink, the DS water based formula is very similar in tack, and cover power. I really enjoy the stuff, as it is so easy to clean up. Be forwarned that it takes quite a while to dry....just as long, if not longer than most oil based relief inks. As always...its all up to your needs and the way you work. Best, Ld Lawrence ------------------------------ From: jimandkatemundie#juno.com Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:33:42 GMT Subject: [Baren 19360] color reduction woodcuts site Howdy, y'all. I was poking around on the 'net this evening and found this website, featuring interesting color reduction woodcuts by Michael Gorrie: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelgorrie/ It's not the easiest site to navigate, but if you keep clicking on "more art" you'll see a wide array of Mr. Gorrie's work. Enjoy, James Mundie http://missioncreep.com/mundie/index.htm ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII#aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:53:36 EDT Subject: [Baren 19361] Re: Graphic vs DS Inks i have proofed with ds water based ink on corian i don't like it for editions but for proofing on corian it is ok the clean up makes up for the less than acceptable printing. Tells me what is in the block and clean up with soap and water is the only plus. For editoning i like oil based ink prints much better. I like graphic chemical ink works great and is a better price than ds. ds is over priced and the quality is not better. john center ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V20 #1977 *****************************