Baren Digest Friday, 18 October 2002 Volume 21 : Number 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GraphChem#aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:13:34 EDT Subject: [Baren 19586] Re: Concerned I am curious (among many emotions). Did I miss a memo or something? The [baren] website has listings of vendors - many of whom are my customers - but I am not listed. Is this a paid page or what? Dean Clark Graphic Chemical & Ink Company ------------------------------ From: Daniel Dew Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:41:20 -0400 Subject: [Baren 19587] Re: Baren Digest V21 #1995 How many excuses can I use? Biggest and most important one: The registration system I had set up was destroyed. So, I was 3 colors into a five color block print and lost the registration! I had to start all over. They will go out by Monday or Tuesday. If you want to reply off list with a physical address, I'll overnight them. dan dew > From: "marilynn smih" > Subject: [Baren 19577] Re: Baren Digest V21 #1995 > > I have not recieved prints for 14a from the following: > Daniel Dew > Thanks, > Marilynn > ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:20:45 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19588] Re: Concerned I'm sure that it was purely an oversight Dean. Some revamping of the links and lists, to make the site easier to navigate is going on as we speak. We'll make sure you are listed! You have been such a great source of information, as well as supplies! Wanda GraphChem#aol.com wrote: > > I am curious (among many emotions). Did I miss a memo or something? The [baren] > website has listings of vendors - many of whom are my customers - but I am not > listed. Is this a paid page or what? > > Dean Clark > Graphic Chemical & Ink Company ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:30:18 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19589] Re: Baren Digest V21 #1995 For some reason there was no new Baren news letter in my box for Oct17th. But am writing about 14a and those folks who still have prints not in my studio. I checked my calendar and thougt about what the first part of November holds for me. I figure to start collating the prints on November2 and have them in the mail no later than November 5, possibly Nov. 4. That means I need to have your prints here Nov.1. Keep in mind that this is a small town post office and it might take an extra day or two for them to arrive. (they route our mail through the big city first and than send it off down here) I am going to Portland about Nov. 6. My brother may need surgery, I have a meeting and the weekend of the 9th we do our last outing with our boat club. Espceially because of the prospect of having to stay in Portland for the surgery I need to get this project finished up.Thanks to all and I love the prints, each one is very special. Marilynn ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19590] Re: show of Japanese wood block prints Wow, Charles!!! This sounds like a exhibit! Japanese prints are my passion, and I'm an avid collector! Such beautiful objects! >And the hairs were so close together that I could not believe they were >all carved on one block. I think they must have been carved on several >blocks, say every third hair, and then printed sequentially. Not only >would it have been practically impossible to carve otherwise, but it would >have been impossible to ink and print without the spaces being filled with >paste and ink. I sincerely doubt that those hairs were printed using more than a single block... Of course, I can't see the print as you did, but often hair was printed using several blocks to under print gray and black tones which were finally overprinted with the keyblock containing those finely printed lines! Traditional Japanese technique allow faithful reproduction of tiny marks, and (although they did tend to fill with hardened pigment over time, and fine lines do eventually break down, there were a LOT of prints pulled with very fine impressions) I bet you were just admiring the pedestrian skill of people who did this work all day every day for most of their lives. Pretty amazing level was achieved, eh? >Many of these prints were originally made into books, often used as sex >education manuals. In all the prints there was an exaggeration of the size >of the genitalia, both male and female, but particularly in the males ... >no doubt many generations of Japanese boys were raised feeling totally >inadequate because they did not compare to the pictures!!! I personally >think it would be very difficult from our modern perspective to regard >these prints as in any way pornographic. They actually appeared quite >humorous. All sexual activity depicted was heterosexual, with no >indication of homosexuality. I've heard that 'sex education manual' explanation many times, but I just don't buy it! Courtesans and prostitutes were more expensive than books of shunga (just as today, I imagine). I think that the shunga you saw most likely played a very similar role (and at a similar relative cost) as today's "men's magazines" -- Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, and a thousand others. And I think men used them in a similar way, too. As far as eroticism goes, I have some pretty damned erotic shunga (well, erotic to me, at least) and homosexual erotica was very common as well -- I have a terrific print depicting an older monk with a very young boy -- totally inappropriate in today's puritan western climate, I think... but oh, so very beautiful a print! Because it was more or less produced and traded "underneath" official censorship and regulation, lots of shunga was printed using the MOST fabulous and flashy techniques -- lots of metallics, mica, embossing, RICH color -- incredible prints! Did you notice that in the exhibition? Shunga was frequently produced with the same sort of "deluxe" printing technique as surimono -- really incredible! You've made me really want to make a visit... But I think it's impossible between now and the end of the year. Anyway, thanks for the wonderful description! Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:32:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 19591] Re: Concerned Hi, Dean -- I'm responding to you off-list to get some more info from you... - -- Mike Lyon At 09:13 AM 10/17/2002 -0400, you wrote: >The [baren] website has listings of vendors - many of whom are my >customers - but I am not listed. Is this a paid page or what? >Dean Clark Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "marilynn smih" Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:49:18 -0700 Subject: [Baren 19592] Re: Baren Digest V21 #1995 I have recieved prints from the following 14a participants, but not their colophon information. Sharen Linder Charles Morgan Julio Rodriquez Minna Sora Barbara Patera Sylvia Taylor Jean Eger Womack Please visit the baren site and submit your info: http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_14/aexchangedetails.html As you have read I would like to get this in the mail early in November because of other obligations. These are wonderful prints everyone so get your stuff to me so you can get yours back in the mail. Marilynn Smith in beautiful Nahcotta Washington ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie#aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:22:11 -0400 Subject: [Baren 19593] Lynd Ward John, I have "Wild Pilgrimage" and I think it's amazing - the first printmaking class I took, the teacher brought that book, among others, and I found it a real inspiration. Enjoy... Sarah ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V21 #1998 *****************************