Baren Digest             Tuesday, 11 February 2003     Volume 22 : Number 2125


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From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" <patricia_phare-camp#hp.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:23:30 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20689] RE: Baren Digest V22 #2123 

Just a little note on calendars.  When they have prints pasted in, they are
more valuable if the prints are left in.  I know some of you will want to
remove them to frame and I guess that's ok if you must, but that will
decrease the value of the collection.  Now a perpetual calendar would be
cool, one that would never become outdated...Patti P-C

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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer#iinet.net.au>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 03 22:38:43 +0800
Subject: [Baren 20690] Re: New Year Cards 

To Carol Wagner,

Thank you for your delightful 2003 Year of the Water Ram.  If this is 
your first Hanga print, then well done.  It is not easy doing hanga and 
having an edition of more than 50 in this exchange I think you and other 
first timers deserve "gold stars".  My first hanga was an edition of 6 
and even that was a struggle!!

Baren is a learning forum and it is worth trying something new.  I 
haven't been carving woodblocks for 10 years yet!!!  Up until I went to 
Bootcamp in Sidney BC Canada in 2001 I had really only tried oils, but 
now the challenge of multiple, multiple colours and bigger blocks is my 
challenge this year, so we all have to make a start somewhere and by 
joining in with the Baren Exchanges you receive prints from other 
"woodblockers" and these are great examples on which to study ... 
cutting, colour combinations, design, etc and with the help of the Baren 
Encylopedia and the Digest you pick up hints and "how to" and sometimes 
try things and if they don't work for you, try something else....like the 
current discussion with pigment and paste mixing.

It is good to have some "new kids on the block" in these exchanges.

Thanks Carol W and Carole Baker.

Jan 

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:34:04 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20691] Re: Archive trolling  

At 07:10 PM 2/9/2003 -0800, Carol in Sacramento wrote:

>I have been dipping into the archives again and couldn't resist a comment on
>how useful for novice Hanga printers both the Archives and Barens are...I
>have just ordered a Murisaki baren from the Baren Mall and am very excited
>about replacing my Yasotomo cheap student Baren (which is fraying away
>beyond usefulness) with a good one. I also ordered a Sosaku 'Sumi' for fine
>line- not that I am proficient in cutting those  fine lines yet!


Dear Carol,

Congratulations on your Murisaki baren purchase!  You'll LOVE the 
difference it makes in your printing!  Quick note on 'coarse, medium, fine' 
barens...  "fine" is NOT better than "coarse" in this case...  Use coarse 
or medium to quickly and easily print larger color areas with a minimum of 
effort.  Reserve the use of "fine" for printing very small areas, like thin 
lines or widely spaced small elements...  Because the "fine" barens are 
'flatter' or 'smoother', they produce less printing pressure and more drag 
and are not as well suited to printing large smooth color areas as are the 
'medium' or 'coarse' barens.

Don't forget that you can and should replace your baren cover as it becomes 
worn...  Baren Mall carries replacement covers under the name "Bamboo 
Sheath" at http://www.barenforum.org/mall/products/print_accessories.html for 
$1.90 and you should probably buy a bunch (as you'll surely ruin 2/3 of 
your initial attempts -- still, $6.00 for a new cover is a LOT cheaper than 
the price of a new baren!).  The BEST baren re-covering instructions I've 
seen are from Dave Bull at 
http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/entries/001_14/001_14_frame.html although 
I must admit that I soak my skins a bit longer than Dave and omit the towel 
wrap and warm breath blowing parts (and I use the smooth plastic handle of 
my scissors instead of a river rock)...

And the angels we have to thank for running the Baren Mall are Barbara 
Mason and her assistant and boss, Dave Bull.

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" <patricia_phare-camp#hp.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:12:55 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20692] RE: Baren Digest V22 #2124 

RE: Pillow Book, Count me in.  Patti P-C

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:35:45 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20693] Re: The Calendar Project 


Thank you so much for all the great ideas and suggestions re the calendar 
project.  Everybody is throwing stuff into the mix and that's 
healthy....thanks Rich Campbell, Joe Sheridan and others for your indepth 
ideas....all this stuff is great. 

I must admit that at first I was just thinking of ordering a stack of 
pre-printed forms from Japan and getting 12 people to go into this with 
me....I would send them each a stack of sheets for their assigned month 
and they would send them back for collating when completed. 

But you have all sent in some great ideas and the project is growing in 
size and complexity.....what to do ?

Here are some of my personal ideas based on what you have all written:

Based on participation/signup...create groups of 12 (13 per if the signup 
turnout is very large and we want someone to do a "cover" print for the 
calendar)  printers that would work together as a group under the umbrella 
of a coordinator they select from among their 12. Each group would work 
independent of each other and work out it's own details as far as 
assigning months, theme, techniques, attach or print on the form, etc.... 
general communication regarding the project could be done on the forum, 
but details re the particulars of each calendar could be kept secret by 
each group till the end product is completed. 

There should probably be one main coordinator to pull everything/everybody 
together...I guess...that's me...and we should probably all agree in that 
each group will be turning out same size calendars (or not ?) 

Re...how many prints to make....here is a thought....how many calendars 
does each member wants to get back ? how many do we want to sell thru the 
barenmall  ? (to benefit barenforum.org )

So...if we have 12 printers....each wants to get back 3 calendars 
freebie....and we want to sell 20 calendars thru the mall........that 
means we each have to make 56 prints to cover.  Does that sounds like too 
many...or too few ???
Remember these would probably be smaller sized prints in the 5X7 - 8X10" 
range...I think.

thanks..let me know what you think and keep the ideas coming...Julio 
Rodriguez

ps...how about one group for doing a "pillow-book" calendar ?
 





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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:50:55 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20694] Re: More on the Calendar Project 

So sorry, I cut my previous email short........re selling the calendars, 
understand that in part this would be like a fundraiser for 
barenforum.org. As you all know there are charges involved in maintaining 
an internet presence and keeping up domain names. These monies would go 
toward that and other expenses. 

But....what do we charge for a hand-printed calendar with 12 
handcut/printed woodblock designs ???? uhmmm? Some
of you may think I am crazy but I think we should keep the price as 
reasonable as possible to allow for maximum profits
and complete sellout. 

As a benefitting member of barenforum.org....what would you pay for such a 
calendar created by your
fellow baren members ?   $25, $35, or $50  per calendar ?  I think any 
price higher than that would make it cost prohibitive
for many too purchase....I think. 

Remember....there would hopefully be at least 2, 3 or 4 calendars in the 
making...and available for your purchase....
(participating members who wanted to get more than their 3 free calendars 
could perhaps purchase more at 
a slight discount ????)

Sorry to be making this so business like....but someone has to do 
it....the creative and fun part is up to you all !!!!!

thanks....Julio 

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From: Cucamongie#aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:43:27 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20695] sheepy stuff 

Hi all, I went to my PO box today and there were many delightful
sheep and rams awaiting me!  Unfortunately, also, there was one
of my sheepy guys whose mailing label had come off in transit
(luckily my return address stayed on) - so if there's someone out
there from the postcard exchange who hasn't received one of my
sheep prints, please email me offlist and I'll send it to you-
best wishes
Sarah

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From: Frank Trueba <ftrueba#cats.ucsc.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:56:58 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20696] Re: sheepy stuff 

Hi Sarah,

Since I'm currently at work while my flock takes it easy at home,
could you describe your sheep print to I can try to recall if I have
received it.

BTW, is some going to be putting up the sheep/ram prints up on a
website?

frank


At 05:43 PM 2/10/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi all, I went to my PO box today and there were many delightful sheep and 
>rams awaiting me!  Unfortunately, also, there was one of my sheepy guys 
>whose mailing label had come off in transit (luckily my return address 
>stayed on) - so if there's someone out there from the postcard exchange 
>who hasn't received one of my sheep prints, please email me offlist and 
>I'll send it to you-
>best wishes
>Sarah



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