Baren Digest                Monday, 3 March 2003        Volume 22 : Number 2147


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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:18:25 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20896] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2146 

Mary Jane Boylan, welcome to Baren.  You have wandered into a enthusiastic 
group that will get you into hanga if you have the interest.  I decided last 
Spring that the place to start was a workshop.  I have barely learned skills 
and not used them as much as I would like.  You will find there is a lot to 
know about this art/craft.  Of all the art forms I have been involved with 
hanga seems the most technical, so you will need to master a craft as well 
as the art.  Me the novice here talking!!!!  As for your letter about Japan 
it was a wonderful treat to read of you experiences and you did include some 
about art and a lot about a marvelous experience.  You can go to the Baren 
site and join up for after 5 where wew do ramble about experiences that are 
non art related.  I am sure we would love having you.
Marilynn Smith


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From: Louise Cass <lcass#primus.ca>
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:09:09 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20897] Re: Calendar project update 

Barbara-

Didn't intend to offend any of you 'purists' - however you didn't
reply to the thought re themes for the calendar. Since I'm
totally dependant on producing ptgs etc for my living I have come
to accept sales of posters for my shows as well as small
'commercial' prints for people who can't afford the paintings.
I've now become 'daft' enough to make many woodcuts 'to give away
free' as you say even spending precious $'s on postage because I
so enjoy it but you have to remember that the quality of the
image comes first and can even be enjoyed in reproduction when
there's no other way. Believe me tho' I do understand and
appreciate what the Baren is about. I wonder if you shouldn't
think of a higher price for the calendars to be if they are
original prints or not charge at all to be consistent with the
exchange projects and preserve the value of the prints. I know
it's a mute question. regards,
Louise Cass


At 11:09 AM 3/1/03 -0800, you wrote:

>Louise, I think you will hear a large scream from all over the country
>thinking of making "high color copies" of prints.....I think all of us
>would far rather sell our work for less that to have it digitally
>copied........After all we are giving it away free for exchanges and for
>the archives....so cheap for a calendar for sale to all our friends on
>Baren who will no doubt give them as gifts to people who will appreciate
>them while fattening the baren coffers is not such a bad thing! Best to
>you, Barbara  <> wrote: 
>Re the calendars - might it be possible once people sign up to assign or
>choose
>a seasonal (or monthly) theme for each participant which might be more
>interesting than all floral, nude or landscape, etc. Also if there is a great
>demand, high quality colour copies could be made for our personal use or
>to sell even cheaper??/
>L.C. 
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>Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

http://www.LCassArt.com

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From: Roger Leee <leesartstuff#shaw.ca>
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:30:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20898] Re: Cases for $16 



Hello Barbara

What is your phone Number. I do not like sending info regarding
my VISA over the internet. I would prefer to talk 'in person" to
the receiver of my number. Not that I do not trust the people
receiving, I do not trust the people looking for # on the email.
I have spent too many years programming computers to entirely
trust them.


Thanks

Most sincerely Roger Lee

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Barbara Mason 
  To: Baren Forum 
  Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:39 AM
  Subject: [Baren 20889] Cases for $16


  These are the people who have ordered a case for #16. If you ordered one and your name 
  is not here, let me know. If you want one and your name is not here also let me know. 
  I will be placing the order on Monday, March 3.

  Best to all,

  Barbara



        Mike Lyon
       2/14/2003
       pd visa
       
        Barbara Mason
       2/14/2003
       pd visa
       
        George Jarvis
       2/14/2003
       
       
        Robert Canaga
       2/14/2003
       
       
        Roger Lee
       2/14/2003
       
       
        Julio Rodriguez
       2/17/2003
       pd visa
       
        sylvia Taylor
       2/18/2003
       
       
        Bea Gold
       2/19/2003
       pd visa
       
        Frank Trueba
       2/25/2003
       
       
        Maria Arango
       2/25/2003
       pd visa
       
        Sharen Linder
       2/27/2003
       pd visa
       
        Ruth Feldman
       2/27/2003
       pd visa
       
        George Jarvis
       2/28/2003
       


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From: "April Vollmer" <april#aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:50:47 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20899] caveat emptor 

How's my Latin? I just wanted to warn Mary Jane "buyer beware!" The more you
spend on Japanese tools, the better they will work! So the first thing to do
is evaluate your commitment to printing and weigh it against your bank
account. I spent a lot of money on good tools, but they have served me for
many years now.

Mike is unfailing in his generosity with information, but I would recommend
the $40 disk baren from Daniel Smith for beginner printing if you can afford
it. Also, take a class if you can find one in your area, it can save you a
lot of time. Not that the Baren encyclopedia won't be a big help!

best,

April
www.aprilvollmer.com


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From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" <maria#mariarango.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:04:18 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20900] Baumann 

Url for Baumann fans:
http://www.annexgalleries.com/cgi-bin/gallery-preview.cgi?Baumann
Enjoy!

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     Maria Arango
  Las Vegas Nevada USA
  www.1000woodcuts.com
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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:34:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 20901] digital calendar 



Mary Jane,

I do like the idea of seasons for the calendar....

And I really have nothing against digital prints as long as they
are sold as reproductions or digital original work.

However, I don't think too many people on baren would want to
make digital copies of their prints....maybe I am alone here but
I don't think so. I would rather have a calendar of original work
and then save the work, I would be happy to pay a bit more for it
and pleased to buy them to give as gifts...I have thought of
doing it myself for friends, but can never seem to quite get it
together in time....

I am probably just really slow when it is something I don't have
to get done, so I guess deadlines are my friends! I certainly
understand painters wanting to make more work...it takes a long
time to make a print but we get many. It takes a long time to
make a painting and you get one...a person can only do so much
work in a year. There is no solution here, really. The problem
always comes from confused gallery people, confused artists and
the confused public that does not know the difference between
origianl prints and reproductions. Happens all the time, even in
galleries where they should know better. Wanda and I had such an
experience last month....scary. One of the best galleries in the
city and the owners wife did not know the difference between an
original print and a poster.....

Barbara


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From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)" <maria#mariarango.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:00:25 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20902] calendar  

The calendar project sounds exciting.

Without any screaming and with no prejudice against reproductions of
single-copy originals such as paintings, I guess I would be against the
reproduction of the calendar. Perhaps only because it seems (to me) a bit
silly to make prints off of prints. If, as printmakers, we are making
multiples of an image, then it seems we should make as many multiples as we
think we can sell. We can make as many multiple copies as we want--we are
printmakers--and we can make them all as beautiful and original as the next,
no ink-jet required. Are we lucky people or what?!

So if we think we can sell 100 copies, let's get crankin'!
:-) Maria

PS Curious that even among printmakers the "multiple copy" issue varies so
much. When I send prints to the Wood Engraver's Network Bundles, I send
around 200, one for each member. Doesn't seem strange to print 250
engravings, while a run of 200 woodcuts does seem a bit excessive and a run
of 200 moku-hanga woodblock prints...well, heck, that would be my output for
the entire year! Oh, be quiet, Dave... ;-)

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     Maria Arango
  Las Vegas Nevada USA
  www.1000woodcuts.com
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