Baren Digest               Tuesday, 4 March 2003       Volume 22 : Number 2148


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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:47:00 +0000
Subject: [Baren 20903] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2147 

I want to thank Kat Pukas for her work as coordinator for Exchange #15.
I received my prints on Saturday and showed them to friends and family
who were agog at many of them.  

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Julio, I like your idea of one set of calendars printed in oil based 
inks and
a second set printed moku hanga style.  The continuity will make
each calendar more attractive.


As for printing the calendars further, I, like Maria,  don't feel 
attracted to 
the idea of digital prints of prints.  For me there's something dynamic 
about
a handmade print, that tactile thing, that gets lost in the translation 
to pixels.  
      

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Congratulations to people with shows

Gayle/Ohio

  





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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:28:54 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20904] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2147 

Welcome Mary Jane, it's a pleasure to have you in the group. And now 
I'm going to weigh in on the "reproduction" of the prints for the 
calendar.  I know it is done, in fact, I own one such animal which was 
created for the International Print Symposium: Crossing Boundaries, 
held in Portland, OR a couple of years ago.  But, in general I am 
against reproductions of any kind for the simple reason that original 
prints are so inexpensive to begin with. (And, the price we are talking 
about for the calendar is more than reasonable!)  I am especially 
against reproductions of paintings being sold as prints because here is 
the perfect opportunity to educate the public - if they can't afford 
the painting, then introduce them to your woodcuts - explain 
printmaking to them and show them how they can own original art with 
very little disposable income.  Paintings were meant to exist as one of 
a kind - and I'm stuck in that groove.  If they want a poster, send 
them to the mall.  But let's not pass up these perfect opportunities to 
introduce folks to the wonderful world of the original (and, therefore, 
by definition - "fine art") print.  This subject happens to be my 
soapbox and any time it comes up, you can expect an auto-response ;-)  
Digital printmaking is another subject and BTW, I am having so much fun 
at the moment experimenting with digital and woodblock combinations -

Sharri


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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:51:39 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20905] Re: Calendar project 



Thanks to everyone with their input on the calendar stuff...we are still a 
few days away from any final decisons/announcements....the March issue of 
the Barensuji newsletter has priorities !!!

Louise...I think is great what you are doing making a living with 
paintings and posters....I think to each it's own, whatever 
works...works...in these days of suffering economies it is very hard to 
make a living entirely as a non-commercial artist...
 

Re:"I wonder if you shouldn't think of a higher price for the calendars to be 
if they are original prints or not charge at all to be consistent with the 
exchange projects and preserve the value of the prints."

Well, is not quite an exchange, is more like the 911-Fund raiser we did 
last year, except this time the "profits" go to Baren. I think anyone who 
has been here for any length of time has benefitted from the discussion, 
the advise, the community feeling,the exchanges and also the website and 
the ton of info available. Members may or may not opt to purchase a 
calendar from the group...we are not going to keep a list of 
who did or who did not....but for sure the bills need to be paid...such as 
domain names, server fees, occasional losses from the Barenmall sales, 
funds for special projects, etc...this is a way for members to give 
something back to the group....in the past we have always voted to keep 
Baren membership open and fee-free and we would like to keep it that way. 
I think the majority of calendar purchases would come from the membership 
itself so while we want to raise some funds, we do not want to put it out 
of reach for someone to purchase one. I think besides the money thing, it 
is still above all about "sharing" our art with our fellow printmakers.

This calendar-stuff is a good example of a special project...participants 
would pay for creating/donating their prints for their calendar and for 
shipping back and forth. But who is going to pay for the actual calendar 
forms to hold the prints ? Think about 100-150 calendars to be 
printed...do we add that cost to the participants or does "Baren" cover 
the cost for the paper and printing of the calendar sheets ?  I think is 
fair that Baren supply those costs. But for projects like this to exist we 
must have some funds available....

anyways..just a few more ramblings...more to come...

thanks...Julio Rodriguez 




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From: "Cynthia S. Bendix" <contact-print#juno.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:29:51 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20906] Re: digital calendar 

I agree with Barabara. I'd prefer "real" handmade prints for the
calendars.
I'd be in the oily print calender group.

On another print topic and closely related to using a dremel because of
painful hands;

I've been printing monotype block and collographic prints using a baren.
I've been just  barely slipping my fingers under the tie and using the
pressure of the heel of my hand to print with. After months now of happy
printing, I've noticed real pain in the heels of my hands when I lean on
one palm as I get up out of bed in the morning. I love printing with a
baren and wonder if anyone else has experienced this? Am I holding the
baren wrong or using the wrong part of my hand for pressure against the
paper. Any suggestions?

Thanks 
Thea

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From: LEAFRUTH#aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:48:33 EST
Subject: [Baren 20907] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2147 

Barbara   I would like to receive a case For exchange l6 but agree with Roger 
Lee If you send me your phone I will give you my card number.  Thanks Ruth

http://www.ruthleaf.com

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:40:28 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20908] EXCHANGE 15 Gallery is ON-LINE !! 

The all-hanga exchange #15 is now on-line and ready for your viewing 
pleasure at 
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_15/exchange_frame.html --- I'm 
sure the participants will appreciate hearing your comments and/or 
suggestions which you may submit directly to each printer from his/her page...

Kat Pukas did a FANTASTIC job coordinating this exchange, right down to her 
wonderful colophon page.  She'll be putting her comments and some pictures 
of her collating party up onto the page pretty soon, so please check back 
again in a few days...

Hope you enjoy these!

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  


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From: b.patera#att.net
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 05:14:27 +0000
Subject: [Baren 20909] Re: calendar 

Don't know who to contact but would like to be a part of the Calendar project. 
How will it be set up? Couldn't we each do open editions.... so many calendars 
for sure and then have the option of printing more if necessary?

Barbara Patera

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From: Ray Hudson <rhudson#together.net>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:34:45 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20910] Calendars 

Just a thought about the October deadline.  Perhaps, given our tendency
to put things off to the last--speaking as a former coordinator of an
exchange--the deadline ought to be put forward to, say, mid-September or
even earlier.
Ray Hudson

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