Baren Digest              Wednesday, 5 March 2003      Volume 22 : Number 2149


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From: Louise Cass <lcass#primus.ca>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:48:03 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20911] Re: EXCHANGE 15 Gallery is ON-LINE !! 

The prints look fabulous! That particular format must have inspired everyone.
It will also inspire me to have a stab (no- a gentle cut) at it as soon as
I can.
Congrats to all
Louise Cass 

At 03:40 PM 3/3/03 -0600, you wrote:

>The all-hanga exchange #15 is now on-line and ready for your viewing 
>pleasure at 
>http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_15/exchange_frame.html --- I'm 
>sure the participants will appreciate hearing your comments and/or 
>suggestions which you may submit directly to each printer from his/her

page...

>
>Kat Pukas did a FANTASTIC job coordinating this exchange, right down to her 
>wonderful colophon page.  She'll be putting her comments and some pictures 
>of her collating party up onto the page pretty soon, so please check back 
>again in a few days...
>
>Hope you enjoy these!
>
>-- Mike
>
>
>Mike Lyon
>mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
>http://www.mlyon.com  >
>
>

http://www.LCassArt.com

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From: Louise Cass <lcass#primus.ca>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:30:53 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20912] Re: calendar 


Apologies once more - I don't think this got delivered in any format -still
trying to correct it


Maria - you're absolutely right that it seems silly to make
prints of prints (altho'I still enjoy J.Hillier's [book] "Japanese Masters of the Colour
Print" which has some good 'prints off of prints'  mounted in the book as well as
the usual reproductions in the text. I forget that it easy to turn out a large edition
espec. with a press.  I was really thinking of the suggested price of $20-$25 which is
what one pays for a commercial calendar and that more $'s could be made for the
Baren coffers if the originals were commercially printed or perhaps an auction
could be organized to get prices closer to the worth of the original calendar. Too
much work I imagine!! I found what appears to be a set of (8)
Japanese prints on a cheap laid paper (someone must have given me long ago) with no text or 
signatures which is strange- at some point I'll have them scanned and ask Baren members 
to identify them if possible.  A nice puzzle!

Please bear with me if this appears in the usual rotten format - I'm trying out a solution
so I'm afraid the message will appear twice. Apologies - I'll have to get a new mail system.

>Louise Cass
>
>
>
>
>At 09:00 PM 3/2/03 -0800, you wrote:

>>The calendar project sounds exciting.
>>
>>Without any screaming and with no prejudice against reproductions of
>>single-copy originals such as paintings, I guess I would be against the
>>reproduction of the calendar. Perhaps only because it seems (to me) a bit
>>silly to make prints off of prints. If, as printmakers, we are making
>>multiples of an image, then it seems we should make as many multiples as we
>>think we can sell. We can make as many multiple copies as we want--we are
>>printmakers--and we can make them all as beautiful and original as the next,
>>no ink-jet required. Are we lucky people or what?!
>>
>>So if we think we can sell 100 copies, let's get crankin'!
>>:-) Maria
>>
>>PS Curious that even among printmakers the "multiple copy" issue varies so
>>much. When I send prints to the Wood Engraver's Network Bundles, I send
>>around 200, one for each member. Doesn't seem strange to print 250
>>engravings, while a run of 200 woodcuts does seem a bit excessive and a run
>>of 200 moku-hanga woodblock prints...well, heck, that would be my output for
>>the entire year! Oh, be quiet, Dave... ;-)
>>
>><||><||><||><||><||><||>
>>     Maria Arango
>>  Las Vegas Nevada USA
>>  www.1000woodcuts.com
>><||><||><||><||><||><||>
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>>
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http://www.LCassArt.com

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:13:10 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20913] Re: calendar stuff 

Barbara P. writes:

"...Don't know who to contact but would like to be a part of the Calendar 
project. How will it be set up? Couldn't we each do open editions.... so 
many calendars for sure and then have the option of printing more if 
necessary?"

Open discussion is going on now in the forum....signup is still days 
away.....at least two types of calendars will be produced...maybe more 
depending on total participant signup. Based on the early feedback, sounds 
like going with an all oil-prints calendar and one with all water-prints 
is okay with most. A third or fourth calendar could give us some fun 
options. Be prepare to do somewhere between 50-80 prints ( you will have 
6+ months to work on it). All profits from sales go towards 
barenforum.org.

 Lot of people mentioned "seasonal". Rather than signup for specific 
months...perhaps we can signup for a particular calendar type and 
season.....such as "oil-spring", or "water-winter". This way the 
participants would not know exactly what month they would eventually 'get' 
but still be able to create a representative print....sort of like those 
Playboy cover girls that know they been selected but are not quite sure 
which month they will cover (or uncover !)  This would give the 
coordinator (me!) some room for arranging the 
photographs....ooops...daydreaming again!, I mean... prints...and would 
avoid the possibility of many people conflicting to do the same month. 

Don't mean to offend anyone with that Playboy reference {;-)

Ray Hudson writes:

"...the deadline ought to be put forward to, say, mid-September or even 
earlier."

Consider it done Ray...mid-September it is...all calendar prints must be 
in.

thanks for now, more later...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:39:20 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20914] Re: calendar stuff 

Dear Julio,

Why not allow us to register on-line for a particular calendar (all-oil -- 
all hanga -- all shunga -- etc) and a particular month plus front and back 
covers?

Or allow us to communicate our preferences for months/covers during the 
on-line registration process, then you assign best fits from what you receive?

Paper type, dimension, orientation and edition size should all be fixed in 
advance (perhaps paper for each calendar could be purchased directly from 
the mall?), and each participant would produce the assigned month's page 
including the accurate calendar for the selected month.  Participants each 
get one complete bound calendar and the "extra" copies can be sold to the 
public via the www.BarenForum.org web site as a Baren fund-raiser...

How's that sound?  I think it'll be VERY cool!

Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  



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From: slinders#attbi.com
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:50:17 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20915] Japanese Woodblock Intensive at Snow Farm 

Hi, Everybody!

Snow Farm's (delicious) catalogue just arrived!
Matt Brown is planning a traditional Japanese woodblock weekend
April 25-27. Ray Hudson will be teaching woodblock printmaking
August 18 - 24, 2003.  

Snow Farm has wonderful offerings!  Lucky folk in New England
who can use such a great place!  <snowfarm.org>

Sharen

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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:36:29 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20916] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2147 

Barbara,
I had the pleasure of staying with an elderly artist who lives here in the 
baja, at todos Santos.  He was originally from taos and moved on and formed 
a colony here.  Lest you think lightly of ths man he has work on microfilm 
in the smithsonian.  He has ran his own gallery for years as well. With that 
said this was what I told him, I thought a gallery owner and worker should 
know the difference between an artists print and a copy print.  He basically 
said I was idealistic.  Galleries are in the business of selling not in the 
business of understanding art.  In fact he said he had been told it is best 
for them not to know anything about art. It is business and they want the 
money, they do not care if the public understands.  I know we think they 
should, but it is idealistic, sadly.  So artist beware, buyer educate 
thyself.
Marilynn Smith



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From: "Bea Gold" <bnj50#earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:22:25 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20918] Re: Japanese Woodblock Intensive at Snow Farm 


I took a hanga Elderhostel class from April Volmer at what was then 
called Horizons.  Same place, different management so I don't know what 
has changed.  A week of fun and learning.  The place is very nice and 
simple, small sparse rooms, shared large group bath, good solid food, 
interesting people and April.  Matt Brown is a very good woodcut artist 
and is very nice to talk to.  Should be a great week too.  

Bea Gold
  

>  Hi, Everybody!
>
>  Snow Farm's (delicious) catalogue just arrived!
>  Matt Brown is planning a traditional Japanese woodblock weekend
>  April 25-27. Ray Hudson will be teaching woodblock printmaking
>  August 18 - 24, 2003. =20
>
>  Snow Farm has wonderful offerings!  Lucky folk in New England
>  who can use such a great place!  <snowfarm.org>
>
>  Sharen




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