Baren Digest Friday, 14 March 2003 Volume 22 : Number 2157 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Hudson Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:38:37 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20960] sheep O happy day! 51 sheep are on their way! Ray Hudson Middlebury .Vermont ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:08:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 20961] sheep Ray, Congratulations on getting the sheep out to pasture...I have my block done so there is hope mine will follow soon....at this rate they will be playing with those monkeys. Best to all, Barbara ------------------------------ From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20962] origin of my post card image/"political" art dear Bareners last saturday i sent out my SHEEP postcard to 51 of you i would like to explain the origin of my image of a smiling Afghani sheepherder raising his prize sheep up on his shoulder dear friends of mine met as peace corp volunteers in Afghanistan in the 60"s they gave a slide show last summer of their time there and this image struck me so much that i decided to work with it for my postcard my card is not directed at any group ,for or against anyone, and is not intended as "political" per se but rather as a simple graphic gesture affirming life and peace as basic human needs refering back to our Feb 3rd discussions in baren digest V22 #2116, concerning the use of prints as "political" posters - i feel that art is a magic and powerful medium for creating change especially graphic art,especially woodcut there was never any thought for me of NOT utilizing this opportunity (year of the sheep) to speak out for life in 2003 using my skill as a woodcut artist since the postcards are an informal exchange and not posted to the list I felt this was in keeping the boundaries of our baren guidelines if i have offended any of you-- my apologies if my print helps in any way to steer the world on a course towards peace- then HALLELUJAH- and HOORAY for woodcuts !! Gillyin Gatto Machias Maine USA ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne N. Chase" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:15:09 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20963] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art Gillyin I was going to e mail you about your Sheep postcard , so now that you have sent your explanation I have to say that I cannot for the life of me see that anyone would be offended. Indeed, I thought it was a very inspirational and moving piece and I am giving it a very special place in my "art" wall in my home. As artists I think it behooves us to sometimes speak up about the way the world turns. Not offensive to any race or religion but uplifting messages. Thanks for you special card, Gillyin. Regards Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: Louise Cass Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:51:19 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20964] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art Gillyin - I haven't received your sheep yet - do you think they're being held up at the border?!(joke) I had the same message in mind for my ...'sheep may safely graze..' Louise Cass At 09:23 AM 3/13/03 -0500, you wrote: >dear Bareners > > last saturday i sent out my SHEEP postcard to 51 of you > >i would like to explain the origin of my image > of a smiling Afghani sheepherder > raising his prize sheep up on his shoulder > >dear friends of mine met as peace corp volunteers in Afghanistan in the 60"s >they gave a slide show last summer of their time there and > this image struck me so much that i decided > to work with it for my postcard > >my card is not directed at any group ,for or against anyone, and > is not intended as "political" per se > but rather as a simple graphic gesture > affirming life and peace as basic human needs > > >refering back to our Feb 3rd discussions in baren digest V22 #2116, >concerning the use of prints as "political" posters - > >i feel that art is a magic and powerful medium for creating change >especially graphic art,especially woodcut >there was never any thought for me > of NOT utilizing this opportunity (year of the sheep) > to speak out for life in 2003 > using my skill as a woodcut artist > > since the postcards are an informal exchange and > not posted to the list I felt this was in keeping > the boundaries of our baren guidelines > >if i have offended any of you-- my apologies > >if my print helps in any way to steer the world > on a course towards peace- > >then HALLELUJAH- > >and HOORAY for woodcuts !! > >Gillyin Gatto Machias Maine USA > > > > http://www.LCassArt.com ------------------------------ From: FurryPressII#aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:37:46 EST Subject: [Baren 20965] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art given the political nature of todays events a peace post card is political i could equally justify a post card supporting another position. A peace post card in effect supports Saddam staying in power and that to me is political. John Center ------------------------------ From: LEAFRUTH#aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:38:24 EST Subject: [Baren 20966] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2156 I have a new website. I would love any comments from Baren members. Ruth http://www.ruthleaf.com ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:34:01 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20967] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art Nahhhh ... I can't resist. Peace is a good thing. One can support peace without supporting any particular regime or either group of international criminals on the current stage. Poooh on war. Up with peace. A pox on those who harm others, whether individually or in great numbers, whether there own fellow citizens or the citizens of other countries. Cheers ... in peace .... Charles At 12:37 PM 3/13/03 -0500, you wrote: >given the political nature of todays events a peace post card is political > i could equally justify a post card supporting another position. > >A peace post card in effect supports Saddam staying in power and that to me >is political. > > >John Center ------------------------------ From: Charles Morgan Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:42:45 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20968] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2156 Hi Ruth, I like your site. It seems to me to be well laid out, well organized. And it is visually appealing. I am on a slow modem here at home, so it takes a while for some things to load on many sites. But your site loaded pretty quickly, considering that. So you have a good compromise between detail in the work and speed of loading. I like a lot of your stuff quite a bit. I particularly like the use of color in your etchings. I am playing with etchings now myself, but I have very little experience and no formal training. Take the piece Equinox for example. You have very crisp definition between the various colors. How did you do that? Do you use multiple plates in your etchings? If so, how do you get them to register so well. Congrats on the site. My sweetie and I talk about doing one ourselves, but we have not gotten around to it yet. It sure represents a lot of work. Cheers ...... Charles At 12:38 PM 3/13/03 -0500, you wrote: >I have a new website. I would love any comments from Baren members. Ruth > >http://www.ruthleaf.com ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:33:31 EST Subject: [Baren 20969] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art I agree with John that a "peace card in effect supports Saddam staying in power and that is to me political". I was not forthcoming in saying that and didnt want to get into a discussion of positions on this. Many of us are working behind the Baren scenes for "peace " as individually viewed. Carol Lyons ------------------------------ From: Marco Flavio Marinucci Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:01:54 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20970] Ball-bearing baren? hello there, do any of you use a ball-bearing baren with water based inks? I print very saturated deep colors on 9x12 prints and trying to find a way to ease the strain on the shoulder and secure good ink transfer. Any feedback is welcome. Grazie, Marco Flavio - ---------------------- Marco Flavio Marinucci Woodblock Printmaking www.athomefaraway.com ------------------------------ From: "Ramsey Household" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:05:13 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20971] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art If no one speaks out for peace, are we not conceding to the other side by default? Carolyn - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Morgan" To: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: [Baren 20967] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art > Nahhhh ... I can't resist. > > Peace is a good thing. One can support peace without supporting any > particular regime or either group of international criminals on the current > stage. > > Poooh on war. Up with peace. > > A pox on those who harm others, whether individually or in great numbers, > whether there own fellow citizens or the citizens of other countries. > > Cheers ... in peace .... Charles > > At 12:37 PM 3/13/03 -0500, you wrote: > >given the political nature of todays events a peace post card is political > > i could equally justify a post card supporting another position. > > > >A peace post card in effect supports Saddam staying in power and that to me > >is political. > > > > > >John Center > > > > ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:36:37 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20972] Re: Ball-bearing baren? At 12:01 PM 3/13/2003 -0800, Marco Flavio wrote: >do any of you use a ball-bearing baren with water based inks? I print very >saturated deep colors on 9x12 prints and trying to find a way to ease the >strain on the shoulder and secure good ink transfer. Any feedback is welcome. >Grazie, >Marco Flavio Dear Marco, I have used the Rei Yuki ball-bearing baren with water-based inks. The directions say to use a water-proof ategami in order to prevent corrosion of the balls and to use only 'volatile' oils and not vegetable oils like camelia oil which will attract dust. I used the baren on damp paper with no ategami and occasional rub over camelia oil to pull about 500 impressions prior to receiving the translated instructions. Yikes! Of course, I was worried, but there has been no apparent corrosion or stickiness of the baren -- it rolls VERY freely and is just a WONDERFUL tool. When used extremely sparingly and with a VERY light touch (this baren has a little weight to it, so I mean almost lifting it a bit), it produces beautiful baren-suji, and when used with only light pressure from the wrist and baren, deep, complete, and even color transfer occurs very rapidly. Moderate (too much!) pressure seems to squeeze moisture from the paper and leaves an unusual reverse baren-suji-like effect I haven't noticed with other barens. GREAT tool! Mike Mike Lyon mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com http://www.mlyon.com ------------------------------ From: "Carol Myers" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:58:00 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20973] Re: Exchange #15 online gallery I have been showing around my Exchange # 15 and getting so many positive comments! I may have a show venue here in Indy, we'll see. Thanks so much to Kat for doing a wonderful job as exchange coordinator- it may put me a bit farther away from volunteering for that job-not sure I could do it with such flair! The flu has gotten me this year, sorry for the late response! Carol L. Myers ------------------------------ From: Aqua4tis#aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:18:21 EST Subject: [Baren 20974] Re: origin of my post card image/"political" art well said charles ------------------------------ From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:27:30 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20975] Re: Ball-bearing baren? Hi, I use one of the $250 ones that I got from a teacher. I used it on water and ink, works great. I am 6'1" and weigh 220lb though so the ease of printing may have more to do with that than how good the barren is:Yours RC ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:07:04 -0600 Subject: [Baren 20976] Re: poli-sheep A couple of new images are up on the sheep/goat page, enjoy....thanks to Dan Dew for the scans... http://www.skokienet.org/bandits/jcrstuff/blacksheep/snames.html cutem & printem ! .............Julio ------------------------------ From: Barbara Mason Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:21:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Baren 20977] Ruth's web site Ruth, Your new site is lovely....are some of the etchings done with viscosity rolls? The color is wonderful. The only thing I missed was sizes on the pieces, it would have been nice to know how big they are. I spent a long time looking at all the work. Just wonderful, wish I lived closer to you so some of that talent would rub off! I admit I weakened recently and bought the mask series (Ruth"s digital prints), almost my first online art purchase. They are so wonderful in person, I show them off to printmakers all the time and say "see what a real printmaker and artist can do with a new tool?" It gives me hope for the future of the computer...heheheheh. Best to all, Barbara ------------------------------ From: "Gillyin Gatto" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:48:19 -0500 Subject: [Baren 20978] addendum to postcard origin oh yes-- dear bareners - concerning my sheep woodcut- i forgot to mention that , as i am sure all you woodcut artists, who can read upside- down and backwards fluently, must have also noticed- SHEEP is peace spelled backwards and pronounced phonetically PEEHS ( long eeeees ) i thought this to be a very good omen gillyin ------------------------------ From: "Bea Gold" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 23:11:18 -0800 Subject: [Baren 20979] Re: addendum to postcard origin With our varying views on what peace is I want to thank you, Gillyin for sharing your views and your art. Living in Los Angeles, everyone I come in contact with is against the war while also condemning Saddam - it's hard to see that there are other serious views but I know there are. Let's enjoy all our artistic expressions whether we agree with the politics or not and keep them coming. I'm finishing my Sheep print but can't find the addresses - anyone? Bea ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V22 #2157 *****************************