Baren Digest                Friday, 23 May 2003        Volume 23 : Number 2231


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From: Bette Wappner <bettewappner#earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:25:20 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21559] Re: Visiting Dave Bull


Hi Mike and all

Finally took a look at your visit  with David Bull.   Thank you for sharing
that with us.  I really enjoyed it alot.  It felt as if I was there visiting
him too.  Maybe someday I can, because I'd love to revisit.  I went to Japan
in 1988 and can't wait to go back.   To live in such simplicity and
dedictation to your work is priceless and much desired.

Mike, your 'untitled' print of mother and child is beautiful.  Your
technique is unbelieveable.

Much appreciated.  Still need to get signed up for the summit.  Don't know
which days to pop in yet.

Bette Wappner



>A few weeks ago I returned from two weeks with my Mom, Dad, and sister in
>Japan.  Had a BALL!
>
>There were so many high points, but two which are related to woodblock
>printmaking are: 
> I wrote a little about our day in "Events and
>Activities" which you can find here:
>http://www.barenforum.org/activities/activity_frame.html -- it's the link
>near the top left, "Mike Lyon visits BarenForum founder, David Bull"
>
>...Many of you
>own the two prints sold in Kyoto because they were in exchanges 14
><http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_14/lyon.html>  and 14a
><http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_14a/lyon.html> .
>
>
>- -- Mike



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From: slinders#attbi.com
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:57:24 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21560] To Murilo~  Exchange 16 

Murilo, 

Put your prints in the mail please!  Yes, we're looking forward
to having them!  Send them quickly! ;-)

Sharen

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:21:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21561] Re: To Murilo~  Exchange 16 

Sharen, please check 
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_16/exchange_16.html and make 
sure I've got it 'right'?

Thanks,

- -- Mike

At 03:57 PM 5/22/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Murilo,
>
>Put your prints in the mail please!  Yes, we're looking forward
>to having them!  Send them quickly! ;-)
>
>Sharen


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:01:51 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21562] Honing 

Is there such a thing as too much "honing".  I recently bought a bench
grinder, thinking I was oh so cool and smart, attached a leather honing
wheel and went to town on a few "u" shaped tools.  They look awesome!
They just won't carve anything now.?
??????

d. dew


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From: Jsf73#aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:39:49 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21563] Re: Honing 



Dan Is there such a thing as too much honing you ask? Yes and no. It all 
depends on how you hone, and what happens to your drawn edge.

I use felt wheels with rouge to hone after course grinding to remove nicks or 
what have you. The problem is if you get sloppy holding the tool it will roll 
over the edge too much. It is easier to draw a sketch of what I mean.  
Ideally you want to leave a fine razor edge after deburring your blade,  but if you 
hone in a sloppy manner you will drop over the edge and round it off.

I recommend beginners use a plate with loose powder abrasives to hone. It 
works best for flat edges but still works fine for gouges too. The plate gives 
you a very flat edge to hone against and you tool can be held at just the right 
angle in a sharpening holder. With a gouge you just have to roll the gouge 
from side to side when honing.

Honing on a wheel takes very very little time even on a slow wheel. If you 
use a wheel try to have a tool rest. Then dont overhone just to avoid misplacing 
the blade and rounding the tip.

The good thing is you just need to go back to a mediun stone and start 
sharpening again.

John Furr


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From: "MPereira" <mpereira#newsite.com.br>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:48 -0300
Subject: [Baren 21564] Re: To Murilo~  Exchange 16 

Sharen .
my prints are already in the mail. They said
that in 5 or six days you will receive them.
Thanks for your kindness.
Mike is just great in translating to Portuguese.
Murilo


> Murilo, 
> 
> Put your prints in the mail please!  Yes, we're looking forward
> to having them!  Send them quickly! ;-)
> 
> Sharen
> 



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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001#hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:45:20 -1000
Subject: [Baren 21565] Re: Honing 

Yes, Dan, you can hone a tool too much, especially with a high speed
grinder. Since you are honing "u" gouges, you can only hone the outside,
and it is very likely that you raised a burr on the inside of the edge.
You will need to go back in with a little round edged stone and give it a
few swipes on the inside. Also, BEWARE that with a high speed grinder and
a leather honing wheel, it is pretty easy to overheat the thin edge of the
tool, and ruin the temper, in which case it will not hold an edge. Then
you will have to re-grind the edge (by hand on a coarse stone) until you
are past the ruined edge (no fun). If you have a microscope, even one of
those little pocket deals, it can be quite instructive to look at the edge
after you have sharpened it, and again once you have honed it. Then you
can see what you are actually doing to the cutting edge, besides just
shining things up.

Jack Reisland

Dan Dew wrote:


> Is there such a thing as too much "honing".  I recently bought a bench
> grinder, thinking I was oh so cool and smart, attached a leather honing
> wheel and went to town on a few "u" shaped tools.  They look awesome!
> They just won't carve anything now.?
> ??????
>
> d. dew



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