Baren Digest               Saturday, 7 June 2003       Volume 23 : Number 2252


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From: "April Vollmer" <april#aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:34:05 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21724] not very interesting 

I just wanted to say that Speedball ink and Rives paper are NOT traditional
Japanese materials, and the beauty of moku hanga (Japanese for "wood
printing") is in the use of proper materials that respond to the printing
process.

Speedball is a waterbase ink that was designed to imitate the stickiness of
oilbase roll-up ink. It is not appropriate for the Japanese technique. Sumi
ink not only works better, it's cheaper, too! See the nice thick stuff at
Baren Mall. Why would anyone use anything else?

Why would we spend our time talking about it? I appreciate the open
mindedness of our forum, and inexpensive materials are an  option for
beginners, but the amount of time devoted to this does not make me very
interested in reading the latest posts!

best,

April
www.aprilvollmer.com


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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer#iinet.net.au>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 03 23:26:22 +0800
Subject: [Baren 21725] Re: Hanga woodblock printing support- Melbourne, Vic, Australia 

Woodblock printing support:

I have had a request from Dale Prewett requesting a hanga support 
printmaker living in or around Melbourne Victoria, Australia to please 
put their hand up for support.  

I have been in touch with Dale and said that I will put his request to 
Print Australia members.

I have invited Dale to Perth, but that is travelling in the opposite 
direction!!


> Prewett, Dale, dale.prewett#hp.com
>To:          John and Jan Telfer, jtelfer#iinet.net.au
>
>Jan, 
>
>Thank you for replying, but I have been off work for a few days, so sorry 
>for the delay.   
>
>I currently live in Adelaide, but I am from Melbourne and could be 
>returning there at the end of this year.   I am interested in woodblock 
>printing, and making prints in colour like David's from engraving to 
>printing.   Other than what I have learnt in art at secondary school, 
>together with a year in Japan, I have no formal printmaking skills.   I am 
>familiar with the process and that is what I would like to do.   I have 
>contacted most private education institutions to find no such course 
>exists.   For example I could do a weekend to a weeks course learning 
>ceramics.   I realize that there is years of learning to do, but I do not 
>know if I want to pursue that if I have no real experience of it.
>
>I have just subscribed and had a look through the step by step documents 

>from David and they are great, but they do not beat first hand experience, 

>which is what I would like to try. 


Please get in touch with Dale if you can or know of someone who can help.

Many thanks,
Jan 

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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#attbi.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:52:09 -0700
Subject: [Baren 21726] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2251 

Jean E-W is absolutely right - Speedball makes a great water based ink 
intended for the classroom and especially for children, it is 
economical (mainly because very little pigment is used - it is mostly 
the suspension vehicle).  Definitely it is not intended for Hanga - it 
is meant to mimic oil based inks.  It dries with a flat, sometimes 
chalky finish, and it not particularly archival because it is intended 
for student work.  I prefer the satin finish of the oil based ink when 
it is dry, but that may be personal preference.  Any good, professional 
grade ink is going to give you good results, with practice.  They all 
respond a little differently.  Charbonnel, Gamblin and Graphic Chemical 
are all like working with the cream of the crop! Why make life 
difficult?

Dean - what is the name of the Gel modifier?  I highly recommend it, 
whatever it is called -

Sharri


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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 21727] American Print Alliance show 

Just a reminder that this show is free to enter and you can find
more info at the website, www.printalliance.org so if you want to
be in a show that travels, this will be a good one to enter. The
deadline is looming so go for it. Best to all, Barbara


Theater of the Mind.
Visualize what goes on in your head, and print it! Figurative or literal,
from the subconscious or the intellect, an outpouring of emotions or a
carefully plotted intrigue, you're the impresario. Images might freeze a
moment in a psychological spotlight, play out a narrative or capture the
swirl of lights as the curtain rises. We'll entertain melodrama to comedy,
classical tragedy to off-off-Broadway and indie style. Let paper be your
script and your stage. Whatever the scene or subject, be original and
dramatic


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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 21728] Exchang #17 



Sorry for two posts back to back...I attribute it to the fact
that my brain has turned to mush...it is 95 today when it is
usually  75....quite a heat wave for Oregon.

If anyone wants a case for this exchange...let me know before
Monday. Best to all,
Barbara



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From: Daniel Dew <ddew#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:31:18 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21729] Re: Exchang #17 

Could you post a list of those that have paid?


d. dew 

From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT)
To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Subject: [Baren 21728] Exchang #17


>Sorry for two posts back to back...I attribute it to the fact that my brain
>has turned to mush...it is 95 today when it is usually  75....quite a heat
>wave for Oregon.
>
>If anyone wants a case for this exchange...let me know before Monday.
>Best to all,
>Barbara




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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 17:27:08 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21730] Re: That other guy from Japan....

Those of us on barenforum.org back a while remember fellow 
artist/printmaker/short-time barener Daniel Kelly. Daniel was a forum 
contributor for a while back in 1998 & 1999. Most recently I wrote an 
article on Barensuji's July 2001 issue 
that shows some of Mr. Kelly's prints. He is also the featured artist in 
Michael Verne's book "Quiet Elegance: Japan Through the Eyes of Nine American Artists" .

http://barenforum.org/newsletter/issue06/issue06.html#feature2

I say "that other guy from Japan" cause Mr. Kelly resides in Kyoto and at 
last count we had a few members  and ex-members overthere....David Bull, 
David Stones, George Jarvis, Hideshi Yoshida and Richard Steiner. 

While surfing thru printmaking sites, I found Daniel's current website and 
links to his studio and printmaking.

http://www.danielkellystudio.com/

Daniel Kelly's prints (and paintings) are quite different from what we 
have come to think as traditional hanga. He often uses a combination of 
chine-colle and other printmaking techniques in his woodblocks. While he 
sometimes uses traditional tools, his large (very large!!!!!) prints are 
sometimes printed with oversized make-shift 'barens' and the help of one 
or more assistants. A huge water-filled sewage pipe used as a baren comes 
to mind. See link below:

http://www.danielkellystudio.com/danielkelly_2002/printmaking2.html

Make sure you checkout his website and the large works on display at his 
Floating World exhibition page:
http://www.danielkellystudio.com/floatingworld.html

thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)

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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 15:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 21731] Re: Exchang #17 



Yep, but there are only 4 so it is a short list

Carol Meyers

Sherri La Pierre

Jeanne Norman Chase

Sharen Linder

There you go....
Barbara

>Daniel Dew <ddew#tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>Could you post a list of those that have paid?
>
>
>d. dew 



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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:08:03 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21732] Re: Exchang #17

Thanks.  The reason that I asked is because I went through the Baren Mall a
few weeks ago and ordered mine, but never got a confirmation or anything.
So, I guess I need to order again?


d. dew


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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 21733] Re: Exchang #17 



Dan, 
I have been having some problems getting all the emails from
americart....but I have a new address that I am using only for
those emails. It could be that my husband accidently deleted
them...he does a lot of email and we use the same address...hence
the new one for me just for these mall messages. I am going into
americart once a week now and checking to be sure all the orders
are here and I see yours so will add you to the list and charge
you......so not to worry. Looking forward to seeing you in Kansas
City. Barbara

>Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com> wrote: Thanks.  The reason
>that I asked is because I went through the Baren Mall a few weeks
>ago and ordered mine, but never got a confirmation or anything. 
>So, I guess I need to order again?


d. dew



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