Baren Digest              Wednesday, 25 June 2003      Volume 23 : Number 2271


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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:02:45 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21891] Apres' Summit 

After a long slow backroads return to Ohio, we arrived late last night. 
 All the way home Jim and I reminisced about the Summit, the indelible 
snippets, the little vignettes that brought again to life each Barener 
we met.  Words on a page can't give that smile, that light in the eye, 
the color of personality.  

 I don't think I can add much to the explicit testimonies already 
written.  I told Jim that I feel this community of woodcut artists are 
my people.  When you live in a little town where no one does what you 
do, it's nice to be unique, but it's a little lonesome too.   There's no 
one to talk woodblock carving with except here on the Forum.  The Summit 
was what I was waiting for and I have carried it home with me.    To 
Mike the beautiful wood of the floors, how smooth and cool they felt 
under our bare feet, the bark of your studio crow as he called out for 
that mysterious something crows call out for, the unified rhythm of 
utterance  coming from the dojo below us, the thwack of John Center's 
mallet, the voices  crisscrossing the room -- all that as backdrop for 
what was learned:  three observed ways of sharpening tools (John Furr's, 
April's, Michael's) , two ways of carving lines (April's and David's), 
the floating kento registration system ala Maria,  and at long last, 
like others, I got up the nerve to tie a baren.  It didn't look the same 
as the original, but at least I know the steps and hope to be less 
afraid to jump in and do the job  in the future.

And, like Julio, who had such a good time with the men at the barbeque 
restaurant, the end of the table where I sat near Wanda and Sharri at 
the chinese restaurant dinner deserves a few winks, too.  Oh, the plans 
we have for a certain project coming up!

Thank you David for your relentless help, and especially  Mike, Steve 
and Cory for the magic, and thank you to all those who gave the gifts of 
their time and experience in all capacities.    I'm going to go kiss 
some wood with (at long last) what I hope are properly sharpened tools. 
 And, dang it, I miss you guys.  Mike, you may think your studio is 
quiet, but our astral bodies are there, floating about,  chipping away 
at woodblocks, looking through your beautiful prints.  We've moved in. 
        

Gayle



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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:37:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 21892] summit #2 



Jack,

I think Hawaii is a really good idea.......expensive but good.
Can we camp on the beach???My son went once and got permission
with his kung fu group to camp on the beach near the army base
and they had use of the showers and so on there....I think you 
need permission as otherwise there would be lots of people
camping and that could be a real problem.....

This has appeal. OK, If we come to Hawaii guess who has to
organize it? Better start now for two years from now. Ha.
Eveything costs more in Hawaii, but camping could work.

best to all,
Barbara




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From: "kent kirkpatrick" <kirk_star#hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:58:01 -0700
Subject: [Baren 21893] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2269 

Thanks Mike Lyon for a great summit. You may have facilitated
even more than you thought with all of the presentations,
conversations and connections people made.</DIV>

I got on the plane Saturday dragging my sleep deprived body and
mind on, feeling so full of gratitude. Gratitude for all of the
new people I met, seeing the usual band of characters (you know
who you are) and David's generosity and his great generosity of
spirit.&nbsp;  A special thanks to Jim Wohlken, chauffer
extrordinaire and to John Furr. Another special thanks to Betty
Wapner, who saved my bacon twice! Thanks to all of the people I
met from Alaska to Canada to Italy to Japan to all over the
U.S.. Woodblock heads are great people!

Take care,
Kent Kirkpatrick
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From: "Joseph Sheridan" <sheridanpsm#msn.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:10:13 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21894] Re: Kansas City photos! 

Congratulations to all of Baren and those at the Summit! I do wish I 
could have made it!
What a great group of peoples sharing a wonderful art form.

I do have a question for April... and more photos of Dave covering that 
Baren? I would find that interesting!
thanks
Joe
  

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From: Krypto <krypto#attbi.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:07:52 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21895] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2270 

Please discontinue the individual messages and put me on the Baren Digest,
please.  Thank you.

Manuel Roth
krypto#attbi.com

06/24/2003 05:00 AM


> Please discontinue the individual messages and put me on the Baren Digest,
> please.  Thank you.



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:11:48 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21896] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2270 

At 09:07 AM 6/24/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>Please discontinue the individual messages and put me on the Baren Digest,
>please.  Thank you.
>
>Manuel Roth
>krypto#attbi.com


Just a reminder to Manuel and everyone:

You may adjust your own Baren Forum subscription settings at 
http://www.barenforum.org/sub_forum.html
and you may adjust your Baren After Five settings at 
http://www.barenforum.org/sub_after5.html

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:20:57 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21897] Re: Thanks, Summiteers!
Dreams do come true, Bill Ritchie.
Let us hope that there will be a sequel to the Baren Summit #1. 

Thanks for your inspiration.

Jeanne N.

Go to; www.artsport.com/ivp30622.html



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:15:39 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21898] Recovering the Baren... 

At 12:10 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>I do have a question for April... and more photos of Dave covering that 
>Baren? I would find that interesting!
>thanks
>Joe


Thanks to Colleen Corradi, we have start to finish video of Dave 
re-covering his baren.  It still must be edited and also made to fit in 
BarenForum's limited site space, but should be on-line in the Encyclopedia 
section in not-too-very-many days...  I'll let you know...

Also, I've added a BUNCH more of my Summit photos to 
http://www.barenforum.org/summit/Scrapbook/index.htm
And you can also browse April Vollmer's photos from the Summit at 
http://www.aprilvollmer.com/kansas/

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: "Joseph Sheridan" <sheridanpsm#msn.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Baren 21899] Re: Recovering the Baren... b

Mike...
Thanks for that info .. I will look forward to that recovering lesson.
Wish I could  have shared in the totla experience!
Joe



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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:24:58 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21900] Re: Kansas City video! 

Joe Sheridan writes:
"....and more photos of Dave covering that Baren? I would find that 
interesting!"

Joe...I have lots of video of Dave covering the baren and doing a 
mica/metal printing demo..also presentations by April, Marco, Mike and 
others. I will make copies available to anyone interested. 

thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois) 


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From: Stephen Goddard <goddard#ku.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:49:37 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21901] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2270

I'd also like to thank everyone at the Baren Summit for so openly sharing 
their knowledge. Marco, Richard, Barbara, Mike and Dave were all especially 
patient with my novice questions. I'm also very grateful for everyone 
taking the time away from your work to visit our museum and to see Cori's 
wonderful exhibition and the selection of treasures we had in the print 
study room for you.

Barbara mentioned how Dave identified our previously "anonymous" wood 
block. The story is a little longer than that -- What was astonishing is 
that Dave did not know the composition -- he made the attribution to 
Jacoulet on the basis of a number of clues, such as the apparent age of the 
block, the nature of the ornament and symbols used by the artist, as well 
as stylistic characteristics. Within a few minutes his attribution to 
Jacoulet went from his initial "strong feeling" to his saying he'd put 
money on it. So we sent my intern, Reed, down to the library to find the 
catalogue raisonne of Jacoulet's prints, and sure enough, there it was. 
This whole episode was just after Dave had waxed eloquently in the gallery 
over several Jacoulet prints in Cori's exhibition -- his most interesting 
observation was that he (Dave) thinks that Jacoulet pushed his cutters 
further than anyone else had, with wonderful results. So, it was a good 
print day for all.

Thanks to you all - I will be putting my lovely Wood Like woodcut kit to 
work soon!

Steve


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From: Krypto <krypto#attbi.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:59:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21902] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2270 

Mike Lyon

You try it on either link, I get the following error message:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/formmail2.pl on this server.

I've also subscribed to baren and been unable to do this before (unable to
filter out the abundance of emails totally unrelated to printmaking)

06/24/2003 08:11 AM


> At 09:07 AM 6/24/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>> Please discontinue the individual messages and put me on the Baren Digest,
>> please.  Thank you.
>> 
>> Manuel Roth
>> krypto#attbi.com

> 
> Just a reminder to Manuel and everyone:
> 
> You may adjust your own Baren Forum subscription settings at
> http://www.barenforum.org/sub_forum.html
> and you may adjust your Baren After Five settings at
> http://www.barenforum.org/sub_after5.html
> 
> -- Mike
> 
> 
> Mike Lyon
> mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
> http://www.mlyon.com
> 



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From: Marcia Roberts-deutsch <marcia#hcc.hawaii.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:52:42 -1000 (HST)
Subject: [Baren 21903] Re: another summit story 

Here's another vote for Hawaii! In addition to our wonderful weather, we
also have an unparalleled resource at the Honolulu Academy of Arts, which
houses the Michener Collection of ukiyo-e. The collection of prints and
drawings on the western side also has fine holdings of artists like
Jacoulet, Charles Bartlett and Elizabeth Keith who adopted and adapted
traditional techniques. 

Marcia Morse
(a faithful lurker)

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Jack Reisland wrote:


> I vote for Hawaii! Warm in the winter, but not too hot, and convenient
> to at least one member!
> 
> Jack R.
> 
> Barbara Mason wrote:
> 

> >  We will certainly plan a second summit, maybe in two years, maybe
> > someplace nice and warm in the middle of winter....we are open to
> > suggestions...

> 
> 



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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:05:17 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21904] Re: Summit 



In a message dated 6/24/2003 5:36:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
studiojnc#prodigy.net writes:


> but have been thinking about , perhaps having regional get togethers. 
> Just a thought.
> 


i hope you have one near los angeles!!!
georga



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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:10:30 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21905] Re: summit #2 


> This has appeal. OK, If we come to Hawaii guess who has to organize it? 
> Better start now for two years from now. Ha. Eveything costs more in Hawaii, but 
> camping could work. 
> best to all,
>  Barbara
> 


maybe we could all rent a house on the beach???   my family did this a few 
years ago  we went together on a house  and it was great




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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:21:31 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21906] Re: Kansas City video! 


julio   
   im interested in the video!!!!
georga


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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:33:23 EDT
Subject: [Baren 21907] Re: Summit 


good point myron        oily would be a good thing as well  as there are as 
many tricks in printing with oil based ink as with water..     It was nice to 
learn new things and meet such wonderful folks as Dave Bull  et al.  

In oily I have 20 years experiance  so i guess that would make me "sensi"   
hehe

In Chicago we have a book and paper center that would be great to hold a 
summit or min summit      in the summer we could  rent the space you might even be 
able to make your own paper    western or japanese   
there is even low cost sleeping   eather though the school or the youth 
hostal ass'n  (one of the best in the country i might add)

john "furrypress" center



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