Today's postings

  1. [Baren 24104] Rest of Janet's Message ("Gayle Wohlken")
  2. [Baren 24105] Current Exchange (ArtfulCarol #
  3. [Baren 24106] RE: Current Exchange ("marilynn smih")
  4. [Baren 24107] Active Bareners (ArtfulCarol #
  5. [Baren 24108] exchange 19 arrivals (FurryPressII #
  6. [Baren 24109] (no subject) (FurryPressII #
  7. [Baren 24110] Re: prints for John (Julio.Rodriguez #
  8. [Baren 24111] info need from the following people in exchange 19 (FurryPressII #
  9. [Baren 24112] Re: prints for John (FurryPressII #
  10. [Baren 24113] Baren-Suji Issue 11 ("Maria Arango")
  11. [Baren 24114] Newsletter ("Maria Arango")
  12. [Baren 24115] Active Bareners (Margaret Szvetecz)
  13. [Baren 24116] opportunity (Barbara Mason)
  14. [Baren 24117] e-bay (Myron Turner)
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Message 1
From: "Gayle Wohlken"
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:07:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baren 24104] Rest of Janet's Message
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> We swapped a number of postings on the Forum re Shiko Munakata and his
> prints, especially a year ago...

Janet, your complete message was in the "old digest" (the last paragraph
of the quote was missing in the new). Those who would like to read the
rest of her message, just go to the Baren Archives, #2536 for Wednesday
and the rest of the quote about Munakata is there.

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Message 2
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:47:38 EST
Subject: [Baren 24105] Current Exchange
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About the shunga exchange that John is coordinating:

I notice that about 5 names of people who originally signed up for the
Shunga Exchange did not meet the deadline and those are the names of people I did
not recognize as active Baren members. I had the feeling we were being used
by people who want to take advantage of Baren, and get themselves on the
list for whatever purposes? you can imagine.

By doing so active members did not have the opportunity to participate and
had to be on the waiting list.

I do think we can prevent this from happening in the future.

Carol Lyons
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Message 3
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:08:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24106] RE: Current Exchange
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Carol how do you define an active member?

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Message 4
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:52:53 EST
Subject: [Baren 24107] Active Bareners
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Hi Marilyn,
Not for me to define. It's in the guidelines.

The names I refer to have never been seen by me to have been involved in
e-mail conversations or anything Baren. I may be mistaken .

They kept some Bareners from participating.

I got this gut feeling when I saw those 4 or 5 names and now I can't help but
respond (2 cents!)

Carol L
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Message 5
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:46:41 EST
Subject: [Baren 24108] exchange 19 arrivals
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the following came in today
Wanda Robertson
maria Arango
Kate Courchaine
Janet Hollander
Lana Lambert

That makes 18 prints in house

john center
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Message 6
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:13:34 EST
Subject: [Baren 24109] (no subject)
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The following prints are in house for exchange 19

Wanda Robertson
Janet Hollander
Lana Lambert
Kate Courchaine
Maria Arango
mike Lyon
David Mohalatee
Darell Madis
R. Hudson
Gillyin Gatto
Philip Smith
R. S. Charles
Christina Blank
April Vollmer
Carol Lyons
B. Petery
Gayle Wohlken
john center

Thank you very much for getting them to me at or near the deadline.
If your name is not on this list and your prints are in the mail, please
e-mail me. And if your prints are not in the mail but are printed, please e-mail
me what their status is.

I have to know if any of you do not expect to get the prints to me by feb.
28th so i can ask those who are still on the wait list if they would like to be
in this exchange and i need that info as soon as possible. I am trying to
keep everyone in mind but some e-mail may have been lost, etc.
Remember that it is only fair to follow the rules, and if you can't get prints in,
please review the exchange rules.

john center
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Message 7
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:29:18 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24110] Re: prints for John
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Hi John, I am printing #19 now....... I'll stop by sometime in the next
few days with my prints....probably after Saturday...I will call you

thanks...Julio Rodriguez
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Message 8
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:40:17 EST
Subject: [Baren 24111] info need from the following people in exchange 19
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Forgive me if you have contacted me already but i am not the most computer
savvy person on the list and some e-mails may have gotten lost.

would the following people please contact me about the status of their print
for exchange 19 (shunga)

Jim Mundie
John Furr
Marcia Morse
Colleen Corradi
Dimitris Grammatikopulos
Shirlene Delapp
Kylie Greenwood
Sylvia Taylor
Gilda Machado Zimmerling
Julio Rodriguez
Amanda Yopp

I need to know the status of your print. If you are sending it or not. I
need this info in order to contact the people on the wait list in time for them
to get a print sent to me. If you have sent the info already, please forgive
me but please send it again. I need this info as soon as possible.

john center
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Message 9
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:42:39 EST
Subject: [Baren 24112] Re: prints for John
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thank you julio

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Message 10
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:17:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24113] Baren-Suji Issue 11
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Greetings all!
The 11th Issue of Baren-Suji, the Newsletter of,
is ready for your perusal.
This Issue:
Previous Issues:
Newsletter Editor
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Message 11
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:04:07 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24114] Newsletter
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Hello members,

Your newsletter Baren-Suji should be on your desktop by now. If you know
you are subscribed and you did not receive the newsletter or the
announcement from, this probably means
that your server refused the mailing.
I have so far received around 18 mail-returned/no such address/etc.
notices, most from AOL or Earthlink. Those subscribers that have AOL or
Earthlink addresses will have to add the above address and my address
( to their "friends" or "accept mail from" or
similar. Otherwise you will not get the newsletters.
Please be advised as well that this is a rather large file, around 78KB,
in HTML format. If you are unable to receive large HTML files, you will
also not get the newsletter.

So! In summary, if you are subscribed and did not receive the newsletter
today, please check to make sure you can receive it. Alternatively, you
can unsubscribe from the standard HTML version and subscribe to the
notify-only version.

If all this sounds like Greek to you, don't worry about it. Go here to
read the newsletter:

And go here to sub or change your subscription:

And go to your kitchen to make dinner; that's where I'm heading...


Maria Arango
Las Vegas Nevada USA
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Message 12
From: Margaret Szvetecz
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:22:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24115] Active Bareners
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I do not believe there is a minimum number of mandatory posts required to be an "active" member of Baren. I do consider myself a legitimate member of Baren. However, I don't post very frequently, I have participated in only a couple of exchanges, I don't post information about my education or work, nor do I post details about my private life. By some standards, I would probably be considered a "sub-active" member.
I certainly am not criticizing anyone else's posting style or content of posts. I really enjoy the different Baren voices, and I open my email multiple times a day with the pleasure of knowing that I will be able to read, and enjoy, posts from my fellow bareners. My point is that each barener has a different philosophy on posting and a different style of written communication.
If there is a concern that many bareners are lurkers, then gently encouraging lurkers to start making posts might be be a good thing to do. From one point of view, it would be very easy for a lurker to believe that Baren is really a selective online party composed of a small group of individuals who all know each other, who post multiple times a day, and who willingly share personal details. Again, I am not criticizing--I enjoy reading posts rooted in private life and think that forcing bareners to unilaterally restrict all such posts to "After Five" would make the Baren listserve experience less rich. Having read and participated in other online bulletin boards and listserves, I believe that all such electronic communication forums have participants who post extensively and participants who post occasionally. My point is that the Baren listserve should be for as much for people who post infrequently and maintain personal privacy as it is for Bareners who create a more outgoing online presence.
Margaret Szvetecz
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Message 13
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:31:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24116] opportunity
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Here is an opportunity for all you crazed exchangers...this came from the Prints-L list
Best to all,

Please share information about this project with as many people as you can. Iowa State University's Print Club is hosting the 4th Annual Postcard Print Exchange. Last year over 130 artists participated with entries from across the United States and as far away as South Africa and Australia. Please read the following prospectus and pass the information on. Thank you.
April Katz

You are invited to participate in the 4th Annual University Print Society Postcard Print Exchange

The theme for this yearís exchange is "Catch Phrase" (Feel free to interpret this in any manner you can imagine.)

Any EDITIONABLE printmaking technique maybe used. (woodcuts, litho, intaglio, photography, silkscreen,
digital printmaking, etc) Please Do Not send monoprints/monotypes.

The post cards must be 4" x 6".

13 prints of the same edition should be sent individually to the address posted below. (Each card must be stamped and will bear the markings of travel and the postal service.)

ENTRIES DUE: APRIL 23, 2004 (Prints received after April 23, 2004 will not be included in the exchange. So please try to postmark prints with sufficient time to arrive here.)

After receiving everyone's postcard prints the University Print Society will randomly divide up the cards and you will be sent 12 new and different prints from other participants. The University Print Society will keep one of the 13 for its collection. Postage for returning the 12 new prints will be paid for by
the University Print Society. Please be sure to put your return address on every postcard sent.

[ No entry fee.]
send postcard prints to:

April Katz
University Print Society
158 Design
Iowa State University
Ames, IA 50011-3092

*Please send questions and comments to

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Message 14
From: Myron Turner
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 06:51:27 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24117] e-bay
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I hesitated to write this, because I know that keeping to topic is
important to baren. But I checked our archives, and there are 135
references to e-bay, so I feel a bit less sheepish about sending this
warning, and it is perhaps important to our members to know of the dangers
when buying or selling on e-bay.

This past week-end my wife received a notice from e-bay asking her to
confirm a change to her account. She had never made a change and it turns
out that someone has stolen her e-bay identity and changed the email
address attached to it, so that it's impossible for her to reclaim the
identity,which is done through email. A quick check showed that the
identity thief is using her account to bid on high priced computer
equipment. She herself always bought small items. Both buyers and
sellers are rated by one another on e-bay, and we assume that one reason
the thief chose my wife's identity is that she has excellent ratings as a

What is particularly disturbing is that e-bay seems not to care--they still
have not responded to our inquiries, after 5 days. We ourselves wrote to
the seller of the computer equipment to warn him of the potential
fraud. Finally, we couldn't recall if my wife had registered a credit card
with e-bay, so we ended up having to cancel our credit cards.

Myron Turner