Today's postings

  1. [Baren 24161] Junked Treadmill Runners (Barbara Mason)
  2. [Baren 24162] press printing woodcuts (Margaret Szvetecz)
  3. [Baren 24163] press for puzzle ("Maria Arango")
  4. [Baren 24164] Re: (no subject) (Sharri LaPierre)
  5. [Baren 24165] Re: exchange ideas (Aqua4tis #
  6. [Baren 24166] Re: press printing woodcuts ("Ramsey Household")
  7. [Baren 24167] Re: press printing woodcuts (Barbara Mason)
  8. [Baren 24168] about "active members" (juan)
  9. [Baren 24169] Re: Self Portrait Exchange (b.patera #
  10. [Baren 24170] Re: Self Portrait Exchange (b.patera #
  11. [Baren 24171] Possible SwapShop stuff ("carol wagner")
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Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:20:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24161] Junked Treadmill Runners
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Maria and I used a piece of thin masonite type board with a blotter taped to the back for printing the puzzel block and it worked well. So almost any hard surface with a blotter on the back between the paper and the tympan will work.
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Message 2
From: Margaret Szvetecz
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:35:59 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Baren 24162] press printing woodcuts
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Barbara, you used the word "tympan" which made me wonder. Are you using a litho press to do the puzzle block prints?

Margaret Szvetecz
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Message 3
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:59:08 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24163] press for puzzle
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We printed the puzzle on an etching press (Dan Patrick 24" x 36" bed);
it is constructed simply but a very good press.

The "sandwich", top to bottom:

-masonite, smooth side down
-single blotter
-paper (Stonehenge cream, dry)
-1/2" of ink (just kidding, Barbara says I use too much ink; 1.5 cans
were used for this experiment)
-block: 3/4" cherry plywood glued to luan 1/8" backing for stability
-thin cardboard
-press bed

Again from top to bottom:
-Rough side of masonite contacts the steel roller, smooth side of
masonite ensures a flat and even contact with paper/block
-One blotter, sometimes more (depending on block), is used to make up
for slight mislevel of blocks. We adjusted the individual block heights
with masking tape placed under the blocks; there were still some
variations that the blotter takes care of for the most part. I don't
ever see a need for soft materials used when printing woodblocks;
blankets are used for etching so that the paper will sink into the lines
and pick up the ink. IMHO, blankets for woodcuts are just asking for
trouble unless embossing is purposely desired. A hard "tympan" works
best for woodcuts with blotters as a forgiving aid.
-Paper is thick, Merrican-style, a rather forgiving paper that soaks up
quite a bit of ink. A bit harder than 88 but still very nice to work
with and smooth.
-Inking was the hardest part since there was so much variation between
blocks. Some folks carved bold shapes that demanded quite a bit of ink
and some used such delicate lines. Needless to say if we would have
inked each block separately we'd still be printing so we found a happy
medium that worked for all the blocks. We used an 18" roller to apply
the ink (Dan Smith classic black)
-Block, already talked about, had to level and level and level
-Cardboard under the block assures that no shifting will occur as the
block simply "digs" into the cardboard when pressure is applied.
-Press bed is very nice, thank you

Next time the "frame" will completely surround all the blocks, as the
edge blocks were particularly fussy about staying in their slots. Also,
I will probaly use solid wood next time, the plywood came apart in a
couple of places of the thin framework and we had to stop and glue.
Toughest part was inking some trouble areas carefully so that they would
print without completely obliterating the details of adjacent blocks.

Working on the web updates...


Maria Arango
Las Vegas Nevada USA
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Message 4
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:39:21 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24164] Re: (no subject)
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You are forgiven, by me, anyway. If you hadn't dropped out I would
never have dropped in! Although I only had 3 weeks to get my print
done, it happened and I am a happy camper.

Please, let us not resort to Mussolini rule. I hear he was not a nice
person to do business with. Anyway, what's a day or two one way or
another? Who is so locked in that they can't bend one way or the
other? We have enough rules in place and if someone misses the
deadline by a few days it shouldn't matter one way or another. A few
weeks, however, might be a different story - then it starts to get a
bit aggravating. But, in the meantime, here's to flexibility! Hey! Hey!
(Boy, those raisins are sure doing their thing!)

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Message 5
From: Aqua4tis #
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:59:10 EST
Subject: [Baren 24165] Re: exchange ideas
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what is tanzaku????
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Message 6
From: "Ramsey Household"
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:06:28 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24166] Re: press printing woodcuts
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Hi Margaret,

Come to Oregon and see me! We can work on my Takach press.

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Message 7
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:38:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24167] Re: press printing woodcuts
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No, just a slip of the tongue,it was sort of doing the same job as a very stiff blanket. It was sort of a board..I usually just use a piece of matboard when I print, but this did work very well on Maria's small etching press. We used Dan Smith relief black, I usually use litho ink. This relief ink was very sticky and highly pigmented, it seemed to work a lot like litho ink and I did like the way it printed. We did use a lot of ink, thats for sure. I have never used a can and 1/2 of ink in one printing before. I am used to thinner layers, but this did look nice.
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Message 8
From: juan
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 21:37:04 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24168] about "active members"
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Thanks for bringing all the "Active members" topic.
This is kind of confession, but yes, also I am one of the members that
seldom post in the forum. However, I every single day read my digest
version and enjoy it very much. I like to hear more than to speak. I
appreciate to all of you who speak here daily.
Anyway, I try to work every day in my studio (besides my teaching
activities) , printmaking which is what I most love to do.

Best wishes to all,

Juan Guerrero
J. Pilar Ruiz 276
F. del Río. Morelia
58040 MEXICO
tel/Ph: (443) 320 7273
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Message 9
From: b.patera #
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:26:32 +0000
Subject: [Baren 24169] Re: Self Portrait Exchange
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Great! Will be watching for your prints. We now have 11 sets of prints in, 2
known sets in the mail, and yours and Dans being sent Monday. Can hardly
wait. Just wish I'd hear from the 2 non-replys ... they have probably dropped
out but please send 31 prints. If there are left overs I will return them.


Barbara Patera
25529 S.E. 159th St.
Issaquah, Wa. 98027 USA

> Barbara,

> I'm in. My prints are ready going on monday,
> it's ok for you?
> Please confirm your address.
> Murilo
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Message 10
From: b.patera #
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:29:07 +0000
Subject: [Baren 24170] Re: Self Portrait Exchange
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OOPS and *(&^$%#
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Message 11
From: "carol wagner"
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 20:50:13 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24171] Possible SwapShop stuff
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I think it would be grand to have more prints going in to SWAPSHOP as you
suggest below. Due to the rigors of producing thirty to fifty some odd
prints in an edition that meets my aesthetic standards ,in a relatively new
medium for my 60 some odd year old hands, I also have not participated in
an actual bona fide print exchange as of this date.As I also I have to work
my printmaking obsessions around a very tight schedule, I have "practiced"
by signing up and getting work in on time to Maria's Puzzle project,
Colleens Deck of Cards, Two Baren Calendars, and The year of the Ram New
Year card. My Year of the Monkey card is almost ready and will go out on
time, "God willing and the creeks don't rise" my Grandmother used to

I love the daily posting's with their sometimes educational, enlightening ,
or sometimes challenging discussions and to all you wonderful individuals
(Newbie, or Pro) who compose the warp and weft of Baren Forum, I doft my
hat and say a very big Thank You!

Cut! Print!, Discuss!
Carol in Sacramento