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Message 1
From: "ANDY ENGLISH"
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:44:06 +0100
Subject: [Baren 24890] Message for Brits or anyone else with access to BBC (Hokusai)
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Anyone on the list with access to BBC 2 might enjoy a 50 minute program at
8:10 tonight (UK time) called "Private Life Of A Masterpiece". It deals with
Hokusai's "The Great Wave", and deals with the life of the artist as well as
"Every conceivable aspect of the print".
I really ought to be printing but I'm writing this instead. then I'll go off
to the garden. Anything but print which is what I urgently need to do but I
cannot find the inspiration. Any one else having one of those days?
Andy

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Message 2
From: eli griggs
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:07:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 24891] Re: Message for Brits or anyone else with access to BBC (Hokusai)
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Hi there:

It's 82 today, another Southern Sun is out and all the
many clouds of weeks past have fled. Unruly and
vigorous Spring leaps upon my sensibilities as I open
the painted door and I am yanked outside.

These days inspiration has become a sleeping curr dog,
rolled up in a golden patch of warmth, daining only to
cast a surly eye of defiance at any summons I might
wish to send.

I could not rouse him, even with a stick!

Likely as not, I will spend a bit of time in our
silly, overgrown yard, rocking mindlessly
back-and-forth in a noisy swing and I will call yet
another truce with any artistic angst that would
disturb my peace.

Manana is such a lovely word.

Cheers,
Eli

ps
Anyone got a recommendation for a first hanga paper?

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Message 3
From: "cjpiers"
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:15:52 -0700
Subject: [Baren 24892] Also more on framing
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Hi,
Connie P from Spokane here,

I also have problems with the whole framing thing. I used to work in a frame shop selling matting and framing and then also doing the production part of the job. I much prefer doing the framing work rather then having to sell it. What a pain. I got so sick of trying to convince "sell" (orders from the management) people on triple mats, big gawd-awful frames, various cuts etc..
Then I watch "Find" on PBS and they visit a exhibit of frames only. One in particular was $40,000. Hand carved etc. Different periods, art deco and so on. Showing the difference of the right frame vs. the wrong frame for a painting. It makes a difference. Crazy stuff.
Maybe it was the difference in whether something is a painting (one of a kind) or another form of 2D art.
I love the look of a piece of art with a frame particularly designed for that piece by the artist. Kind of finishes it off as it's own thing, never wanting to be tampered with again.

But then again when I frame prints or watercolors for my home I do an off white mat with a small clean profiled (wood or metal) frame. But even at that I have done a few things slightly more decorative for my home (keeping in mind the art, not the sofa).

I was taught "gallery matting and framing" but earned a living for a while "decorator framing and matting" so for personal framing etc. I'm torn!

Needless to say my walls are very eclectic! ;o)

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Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 24893] Re: Also more on framing
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Connie,
I do know what you mean...I looked at frames that were hand carved for a huge piece, 4x6', all clowns and circus acts. It was amazing, an art work in its own right. But I think the gallery simple framing is for me....and also cheaper for us artists.
Best to all,
Barbara

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Message 5
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:39:19 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24894] Fw: Re: framing tools
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I would really like to learn more about " OLFLA". Like where to buy it! I
assume direction for using it would come with the item.

> Hello out there
>
> I have been framing my own work for years. I have also owned and operated a
> custom framing store. I have a few comments regarding framing your own work.
> The best hand held cutter is a plastic thing called " OLFLA". This is a
> SERIOUS cutter that costs under 50 dollars ( CDN) and that's real cheap
> for you Yanks. I have tried most of the 'home' cutters and this is the best
> far If anyone is interested, contact me & I will tell you how to set it
> up...
>From the rambling of Roger Lee
> Vernon, BC

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Message 6
From: "Janet Warner Montgomery"
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:47:49 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24895] Re: Message for Brits or anyone else with access to BBC (Hokusai)
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that's beautiful, Eli...you & andy make me feel better...turned over another bunch of the garden, watching out for Cheese Whiz, the cat, planted some parsley...weeded the lovage patch...will work (finally!!) on a piece while listening to Prairie Home companion.

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Message 7
From: Lana Lambert
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 24896] Paper moistening and Press moving
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Hello all!

The good news is I'll probably have some letterpress
included in my exchange 21 entry. The challenge is
getting the press. I recently won a bid on Ebay for a
large Chandler and Price Platen Press. I figure I can
get this 100+ lb. press into my Chevy Blazer by taking
some parts off like the ink disk and the chase.
Anyone have any other suggestions? Freight is out of
the question because it is 1,062.00 and I'm only
paying 500.00 for the press and cabinet with studio
equipment.

Also, I've been trying to figure out a better way to
print with my moistened paper. I find that I get
tangled up in the plastic bags while printing an
edition so I was wondering if anyone has ever
experimented with large (44X52) plastic boxes or cases.

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Message 8
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:53:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24897] Re: Paper moistening and Press moving
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Lana wrote:
>I recently wona bid on Ebay for a large Chandler and Price Platen
>Press. I figure I can get this 100+ lb. press into my Chevy Blazer by
>taking some parts off like the ink disk and the chase. Anyone have any
>other suggestions?

a "large" c&p press is not going to fit into your Blazer... But you could
tow it on (or in) a trailer. They weigh roughly 2,000 lbs depending on
size... Be sure you brace it securely or if you stop suddenly it might fit
into the Blazer after all... :-) Have fun! I LOVE projects!

>I was wondering if anyone has ever experimented with large (44X52) plastic
>boxes or cases

Not quite _that_ large, but 24 x 32 drawers, yes... I am using a plexi
(pretty pricey even though I built it myself, and heavy) drawer on hinges
which I open and close with my foot so my hands are free... I register the
paper over the lip of the drawer and it drops neatly as the drawer slides
shut when I release the lever with my foot. Works slick -- like a very low
chest of drawers, I use the top drawer for just printed papers and the
bottom for to-be-printed papers. Printing large moku-hanga with typical
damp Japanese papers with good success and relative ease (compared to
plastic bags and newsprint. When the drawers are closed, the chest is
pretty well sealed -- damp blotter in the bottom of each drawer seems to be
enough to keep papers damp all day and all night while I'm printing -- I do
occasionally spritz the corners and unprinted areas which seem to tend to
dry otherwise... But my box has holes for the ropes and pulleys and
weights which work the drawers, so it's not really air-tight as a
bag. Similar system would probably work just as well for 52" papers... The
whole cabinet mounts on top of a nifty table I built so the bottom drawer
opens an inch or two above my block... I'm pretty tickled with my little
invention! When I get back from Connecticut in about 10 days I'll put some
photos up so you can more easily see what I've done.

Good luck!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 9
From: b.patera # att.net
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 03:07:17 +0000
Subject: [Baren 24898] Re: Self Portrait Exchange
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Murilo,

Thanks for replying. I'm glad to have that information.... am hoping that everyone else send their info too. It's nice to know method as well as the name of artist and print title.

Want to tell you that your self portrait is my favorite .... also that your S.P. is one of the few that looks anything like I thought it would. All those preconceived notions of mine really bit the dust on this exchange.

Will let you know when the prints are in the mail .... and yes, $15 sounds like it will be enough.

Regards,

Barbara Patera

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Message 10
From: b.patera # att.net
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 03:44:59 +0000
Subject: [Baren 24899] Re: Also more on framing
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Hi Connie from Spokane,

Used to do framing too ..... don't know which I prefered, the actual framing or helping with the selection of mats and frame. Unlike you, guess that I'd lean toward the selecting/selling part.... even though I've always used gallery framing myself.

Some of those selections of mats and frames were truly awe inspiring and in the end it became a kind of game. Who would pick what, as well as how many mats and or frames for a given picture. My personal best though, was one of Douglas P. Snare's photos of himself( real name.... always reminded me of the "Jabberwocky"). Ended up with 9 frames for that one.... gold lips, velvet liners, and gold rocco frame upon gold rocco frame. Now that was awesome but then so was the man's ego! Anyway, the backroom framers took one look at the order, went to a nearby liquor store and brought back a couple of bottles of wine to commemorate the deal. Only in Alaska!

Regards,

Barbara P.

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Message 11
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:21:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 24900] Paper moistening
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Lana,
Dave uses newspapers, and some people use stacks of dampened newsprint...Mike's little invention seems nifty! At boot camp a couple of years ago we learned to use two pieces of plexiglas, one taped to the table on each side of the work space. You would lay the paper under one side of the plexi, just print and move the finished pieces right side up to the other side. Then flip the whole pile over so they were upside down and print the next color. This seemed to work for me, except when I got things too wet and needed to layer some blotters into the mix. It is pretty low tech compared to Mike's method but pretty easy and way less mess than bags. Give it a try. The plexi keeps the paper from drying out pretty well. I did not have much problem with the colors offsetting to the next print, but yoy could stagger the printed areas if you did, so they could absorb a bit before a second layer was on top of them. I was not printing as large as your box, the largest print I did this way was on
16x20" paper,
Best to all,
Barbara

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Message 12
From: "Janet Warner Montgomery"
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:59:54 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24901] Re: Paper moistening and Press moving
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RE:

>I LOVE projects!...

>I'll put some photos up so you can more easily see what I've done.

Possibly you should not be left alone. :)

Does anything particularly odd happen during thunder storms?

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