Today's postings

  1. [Baren 25001] Re Alcrylics for printing ("carol wagner")
  2. [Baren 25002] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V27 #2641 (May 5, 2004) (Sharri LaPierre)
  3. [Baren 25003] (May 5, 2004) (Barbara Mason)
  4. [Baren 25004] embossing and vandercook ?'s ("cjpiers")
  5. [Baren 25005] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V27 #2641 (May 5, 2004) ("phare-camp #")
  6. [Baren 25006] Re: embossing and vandercook ?'s (FurryPressII #
  7. [Baren 25007] Northern Lights (John and Michelle Morrell)
  8. [Baren 25008] shunga ("Colleen Corradi Brannigan")
  9. [Baren 25009] Re: shunga (FurryPressII #
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Message 1
From: "carol wagner"
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 07:36:50 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25001] Re Alcrylics for printing
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Patti Phare-Camp uses acrylics for printing quite often, and if she doesn't
respond right away, I'm sure she will soon.

Carol in Sacramento
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Message 2
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:18:09 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25002] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V27 #2641 (May 5, 2004)
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Bill Ritchie,

Believe me, you were the exception to the rule. Most of us never had
any exposure, much less what you could call a working knowledge of
Japanese printmaking.

Many of the higher ed. printmaking dept's have fallen by the wayside
with the advent of more severe than usual budget crunches. The toxicity
of the medium was a handy excuse and many glommed right onto that
excuse. Others have rebelled and moved to ferric chloride and
non-toxic materials, but still, they try to move us out the door. The
whole dept. pretty much vanished and became photography and digital
imaging at UC Irvine. Maybe that isn't even there anymore, I don't
know, but it broke my heart to see that lovely studio converted to
darkrooms and computers.

We are a tenacious bunch, though - we do not go easily! Thanks for the

Cheers to all,
And a Big HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BARBARA MASON!! How many candles are on that
cake? It looks awfully bright over that direction today. Hope you're
feeling better & those grandbabies give you more than the usual ration
of hugs and kisses today.

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Message 3
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:41:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25003] (May 5, 2004)
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You are blinded by the glare because there are 59 huge candles on the cake...thanks for the good wishes! In celebration I am shipping off my prints for #20, 4 days late. Rats. Best laid plans. I swear, I am changing the due date to a month before the actual one in my calendar. It seems to be the only way I can be on time as things just seem to come up that slap you down and slow you down.
Happy birthday to baren also, I don't know when the actual day is, but I think it must be about 6 years or more now. Knowing all the baren members has truly enriched my life, so I thank all of you for your friendship and your knowledge and your amazing kindness.

I was reading a book just yesterday about the instruction of Henri, the French painter from the turn of the century....the man who wrote the forward was saying how many of the student painters had no knowledge of others working in the field until they met Henri, he said it was "amazing they had gotten to actually be painters with their astonishing ability to dodge knowledge". I thought this quote was so funny and think it is was sure true of myself where woodblock and hanga were concerned. How can you call yourself a printmaker when you have never even seen this type of work done? So as much as I have dodged, you guys have finally forced me to have a little knowledge.
Best to all,
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Message 4
From: "cjpiers"
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 17:41:50 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25004] embossing and vandercook ?'s
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Hi everyone,

Connie from Spokane here,

Just wondering if anyone has tried Daphne paper (heavy weight) for embossing or collographs and if so, how does it respond? Does it need very much time dampening?

Also questions to anyone who uses a press. I have recently got that Vandercook 14 home and was wondering...
if when you roll it one way to make a print, do you then you roll it back to the start position befor making the next print or, if it works to go one way for one print and then back for the next print? Does that question make sense? Also, what has been the best method of registration on these presses?

Any advice from the sages would be graetly appreciated :o)

Thanks a bunch,
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Message 5
From: "phare-camp #"
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:55:52 -0400
Subject: [Baren 25005] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V27 #2641 (May 5, 2004)
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"I was wondering if anyone could share their thoughts, tips & experiences
using acrylics and acrylic mediums for woodcut printing."Thanks Tim AumAn

"You have to put some type of medium in the paint to keep it from drying
fast or you will tear your paper and ruin your block. I use Lascaux..."

Hi Tim: I've been using acrylics for years in woodcut. I've only recently
started using Lascaux, before than I amended with the more fluid matt or
semi gloss acrylic mediums designed to slow drying. All the amendments
work well but the best thing I've found is to have a spray bottle that has
a fine spray and lightly spritz (one pull of the trigger) the plate after
every 2nd or 5th print (depending on the atmospheric humidity) This simple
step goes a lot further toward keeping the paper intact than the slow dry
mediums alone. Also if you take a break or step away from the work for
more than 10 minutes liberally spray the block before you do, also lightly
sprits the surface of the paint. Periodically pull a ghost print as well,
just to keep the cuts from clogging up (I do this even when I work with
oily inks!).

I get some beautiful jewel like color mixes with acrylic paint and I don't
have to apply a lot of pressure to the baren. Matter of fact if I've
amended the paint properly and remember to spritz I need no more pressure
on the baran than the natural weight of my hand. I don't get the sore
hands a lot of bareners complain of either...

Patti P-C

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Message 6
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:25:10 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25006] Re: embossing and vandercook ?'s
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You only print in one direction on a vandercook. You do both your
registration and grip the paper in the beginning. Put you foot on the pedal which
opens up the paper grippers -- let go of the pedal and it holds the paper.
Registration is done with the paper gripper and the guide on the top of the press.
The block is inked in both directions both before the paper is printed and then
released at the end of the cycle and the block is inked on the return cycle
after the paper is taken off the press. It is much easier shown than told.

Registration on a vandercook is very easy after you understand its working

embossing can be done on a vandercook. I have even die cut and perferated
using one.

john center
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Message 7
From: John and Michelle Morrell
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 20:47:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 25007] Northern Lights
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John, you wrote:

first time i saw the Northern Lights was sure fun. stayed up all night
to watch

Not sure if you are changing the subject or think these were the northern
lights. We see northern lights all the time from Juneau but not in the
summer (because it never gets dark enough) and I can remember seeing them
from Western Washington in the summer (because it does get dark in the
summer there). This page shows a dark version of the dawgs:

but ours where during the day (didn't go to twilight until after 10:00 pm),
blue skies, and very, very bright dogs. If you were medieval you probably
would think you were seeing a miracle, what with the crucifix shape and all.

Michelle Morrell
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Message 8
From: "Colleen Corradi Brannigan"
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 07:59:25 +0200
Subject: [Baren 25008] shunga
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Hello Everyone,

I have just received the parcel with the shunga exchange and I was amazed to
see how nice it was.
However, having thought to have it bound, I can see now the problems, as the
papers used in some cases are too heavy to be turned just like a page with
softer papers.
Does anyone have a suggestion as regards binding the shunga exchange?
I really wanted to keep it together as if it were a book.

Why don't we have shunga exchange number 2?

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Message 9
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 06:51:31 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25009] Re: shunga
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You could mount them (poor choice of words for shunga) in an album. like in
a photo album.